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[Monster A-Go Go]

So are we getting green alien babes or not?

 

Oh, you betcha.

 

[FraQ]

Oh, you betcha.

 

 

 

Chode approves!

 

 

Hubba Hubba!

[The Real Pearl #2]

Oh, you betcha.

 

I prefer my aliens Double D size, who ever goes for the normal D's? What are you a clod?

[Larry-3]

If you want good examples of aliens, research Star Wars and Farscape; if you want bad examples of aliens, research Star Trek and Stargate.

Some aliens in Star Wars are humanoid such as Twi'lek's, Chiss, and Zeltrons. While other are strange looking things such as the Ishi Tib, Talz, and Ssi-ruuk.

[MGW7]

I don't really see why people have such a problem with the whole Quarian thing, they evolved to travel long distance in arid environments, exactly the same driving force that created humans, and evolution almost always ends up coming to a very similar solution to the same issue.

[FraQ]

If you want good examples of aliens, research Star Wars and Farscape; if you want bad examples of aliens, research Star Trek and Stargate.

Some aliens in Star Wars are humanoid such as Twi'lek's, Chiss, and Zeltrons. While other are strange looking things such as the Ishi Tib, Talz, and Ssi-ruuk.

 

There are tons of examples of non-humanoid Alien species in Stargate (I'm a huge Stargate fan) and I'm sure there are plenty in Star Trek as well though I cannot speak to that as I haven't watched much.

 

I have watched a ton of Farscape and Star Wars though and there are just as many examples of Humanoid Aliens in those series as any other. In fact the examples you give from Star Wars as strange looking creatures, are Humanoid. They all have several human characteristics i.e. they are bipedal, have binocular vision, opposable appendages, etc.

 

I guess what I'm struggling with is why some of you identify Humanoid Aliens as bad or uncreative?

 

I think the humanoid species in Mass Effect are plenty creative and certainly more interesting than the non-humanoid ones! (The Hanar and the Elcor coming directly to mind)

 

That's not to say I don't think the Mass Effect universe couldn't stand to have a lot more species or more variety because it certainly could.

[Larry-3]

There are tons of examples of non-humanoid Alien species in Stargate (I'm a huge Stargate fan) and I'm sure there are plenty in Star Trek as well though I cannot speak to that as I haven't watched much.

I have watched a ton of Farscape and Star Wars though and there are just as many examples of Humanoid Aliens in those series as any other. In fact the examples you give from Star Wars as strange looking creatures, are Humanoid. They all have several human characteristics i.e. they are bipedal, have binocular vision, opposable appendages, etc.

I guess what I'm struggling with is why some of you identify Humanoid Aliens as bad or uncreative?

I think the humanoid species in Mass Effect are plenty creative and certainly more interesting than the non-humanoid ones! (The Hanar and the Elcor coming directly to mind)

That's not to say I don't think the Mass Effect universe couldn't stand to have a lot more species or more variety because it certainly could.

FraQ, I am a fan of Stargate, too. Not as much as Star Wars or Mass Effect, but Stargate is kind of high on my list. The only aliens I remember from the shows are the worm-things that control people, and the wraith. But the wraith do not count; they are just human vampires with pale blue skin.

And how are the talz and ssi-ruuk humanoid? Talz look like a cross between a polar bear and a owl, standing on two legs; while the ssi-ruuk look like dinosaurs.

I myself do not mind humanoid aliens... especially if they are female. (^:

[Han Shot First]

I don't really see why people have such a problem with the whole Quarian thing, they evolved to travel long distance in arid environments, exactly the same driving force that created humans, and evolution almost always ends up coming to a very similar solution to the same issue.

 

It isn't because they are humanoid, it is because after Tali's reveal they are nearly indistinguishable from humans. 

 

It isn't hard to imagine that a species that evolves in a similar environment and fills a similar ecological niche as our ancient ancestors might evolve similar traits. We don't even need to look beyond Earth to find examples of convergent evolution. It is a bit of a stretch however that a species that is wholly unrelated to humanity and evolved on an alien planet, no matter how similar that world, would end up near identical to humans. The Thylacine and the Gray Wolf are examples of convergent evolution from our own planet for example, but they're not near identical.

 

 

[FraQ]

FraQ, I am a fan of Stargate, too. Not as much as Star Wars or Mass Effect, but Stargate is kind of high on my list. The only aliens I remember from the shows are the worm-things that control people, and the wraith. But the wraith do not count; they are just human vampires with pale blue skin.

And how are the talz and ssi-ruuk humanoid? Talz look like a cross between a polar bear and a owl, standing on two legs; while the ssi-ruuk look like dinosaurs.

I myself do not my humanoid aliens... especially if they are female. (^:

 

The Goa'uld were the wormlike parasites that took over humanoid hosts, they were the main antagonists for the majority of the show's nine seasons. There was also a crystalline species, several different races that existed as pure energy, an insectoid species, a race of sentient water beings, several robotic races, a race of sentient plants, and a race composed of mist that I can think of off the top of my head...

 

The show runners admittedly depended on energy beings a bit overmuch.

 

The talz are bipedal beings, shaped like humans, with opposable appendages, and they communicate vocally through orifices on their face. I'm a bit less familiar with the ssi-ruuk... Had to google them. However they are also bipedal beings, with opposable appendages, perhaps binocular vision, (though I'm unsure on that point) that communicate vocally through orifices on their face. These are all characteristics of humanoids.

 

If your argument is that the Talz are like polar bears crossed with owls and the ssi-ruuk are reptilian, thus not human; I could also argue that the Wraith, your human vampires with pale skin, are in fact insects, and thus not human.

 

The Wraith's Ancestors are shown in the same season that the Wraith themselves are introduced:

Spoiler

 

 

Happy to meet another Stargate fan, it's by far my favorite Sci-fi series followed closely by Firefly.

 

Farscape, Star Wars, and Mass Effect are all fantastic too but they don't come close to my two favs.

[Kabooooom]

To be clear I mean that if the choice is between a regular humanoid alien and something someone just made up the humanoid one is likely more realistic in that we know that design works - assuming it still has thumbs I guess.

That said, taking disturbingly intelligent Earth creatures (ravens, cuttlefish) and making them capable of fine tool use might be a decent way of making alternate designs.

I think Bioware may have already done this...or at least I suspect they did. The Elcor probably drew inspiration from elephants and/or gorillas, the Hanar from cephalopods (straight down to the advanced communication that squid exhibit), the Turians are "avian-like"...it always seemed to me like they looked at the most intelligent species on Earth, and then made them more alien in design.

[Heimdall]

If you want good examples of aliens, research Star Wars and Farscape; if you want bad examples of aliens, research Star Trek and Stargate.

I actually thought the gou'ld were a clever idea, making the aliens parasites that take human hosts is much easier on the budget, plus they could explain why there were humans on so many planets with the gou'ld. For a low budget show(to start) it was a very good idea.

[Heimdall]

I think Bioware may have already done this...or at least I suspect they did. The Elcor probably drew inspiration from elephants and/or gorillas, the Hanar from cephalopods (straight down to the advanced communication that squid exhibit), the Turians are "avian-like"...it always seemed to me like they looked at the most intelligent species on Earth, and then made them more alien in design.

Every artist needs a reference point.

Coming up with truly alien designs that are still visually appealing is hard if not impossible. The trick is to make them alien enough that they don't come across as furries

[Larry-3]

There was also a crystalline species, several different races that existed as pure energy, an insectoid species, a race of sentient water beings, several robotic races, a race of sentient plants, and a race composed of mist that I can think of off the top of my head...

Happy to meet another Stargate fan, it's by far my favorite Sci-fi series followed closely by Firefly.

Farscape, Star Wars, and Mass Effect are all fantastic too but they don't come close to my two favs.

Those would certainly make interesting crew companions.

I love Stargate, but it feels like years sense I watched it. Atlantis and Universe are my favorite. And Firefly, I thought everyone had forgotten about that. You are making me feel nostalgic.

Here is my space fiction list.
1: Star Wars
2: Mass Effect
3: Firefly
4: Stargate
5: Halo

[Larry-3]

I actually thought the gou'ld were a clever idea, making the aliens parasites that take human hosts is much easier on the budget, plus they could explain why there were humans on so many planets with the gou'ld. For a low budget show(to start) it was a very good idea.

I believe that if I had seen Stargate before a bunch of other certain materials, I would have liked the gou'ld more. By the time I seen SG-1, I had watched other movies and read other works with aliens who take control of people, so for me, it was kind of a cliché. That is actually why I like Atlantis and Universe, more.

[Heimdall]

I believe that if I had seen Stargate before a bunch of other certain materials, I would have liked the gou'ld more. By the time I seen SG-1, I had watched other movies and read other works with aliens who take control of people, so for me, it was kind of a cliché. That is actually why I like Atlantis and Universe, more.

Universe is my favorite of the three. I was just noting that the parasites were a very convenient idea for a fairly low budget series without resorting to pointy eared Star Trek brow ridge aliens.

Sure, they never gave a reason why everyone spoke English most of the time, but I can let that go because encountering a language barrier everytime they went to a new planet would have been tedious.

[The Real Pearl #2]

You know what would be a hot alien race? BEE's

Spoiler

[straykat]

Every artist needs a reference point.

Coming up with truly alien designs that are still visually appealing is hard if not impossible. The trick is to make them alien enough that they don't come across as furries

 

I think the sky's the limit.

 

Just don't let players shag any of them. It's for everyone's good.

[The Real Pearl #2]

I think the sky's the limit.

 

Just don't let players shag any of them. It's for everyone's good.

Bee's are the exception 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

They are fan service. But at least I thought Bioware was very smart on how they explained it by the Asari being designed by the Protheans to be sex slaves. It's a kind of cool meta commentary (if that is indeed how it's called). 

Wait, what? Where was this stated? 

[ZipZap2000]

I believe the new races will mostly follow the humanoid pattern, since its the easiest to model and animate.

As for their appearance, your guess is as good as mine. Some Artists in deviant art give some range of possibilities. Kinda expecting something along these lines:

They're all good but the 2nd row 3rd from the left sticks out for me.

[Xerxes52]

I believe the new races will mostly follow the humanoid pattern, since its the easiest to model and animate.

 

As for their appearance, your guess is as good as mine. Some Artists in deviant art give some range of possibilities. Kinda expecting something along these lines:

 

I'd take Toothy from the first row, Evil Drell from the second row, EVA Unit 002 (teal paintjob) from the third row, and finally Red Knifehead from the last row.

[Larry-3]

BioWare, could you release a few concept art pieces for us? Please.

[Statichands]

Being an alien doesn't mean you have to be short, have a big head and have big eyes. Alien just means something that's foreign. The Timelords from Dr Who are aliens to us but they look exactly like us 

 

[SNascimento]

Wait, what? Where was this stated? 

It was heavily hinted by Javik in any numbers of conversations. That the Protheans engineered the Asari is clear, and the other stuff Javik says point to the Asari being kind of sex slaves. It does explains why they are only female, children in the relationship will always be asari, their predisposition for being strippers and why different races find them attractive. It was all by design. 
 

[ZipZap2000]

Dunno about sex slaves but Javik does say they made popular brides during the Citadel party and its heavily hinted that the Asari were engineered to make them superior.

On Thessia he goes so far as to say they couldn't count their own toes without Prothean intervention. Which would mean that as a species they were struggling grasp concepts like mathematics.

Picture not so attractive blue cave women hurling warp at each other (which the Protheans also "taught" them). You get why they did it.

Offtopic: If the Quarians were considered the most attractive in the Prothean cycle what does that say for what the Asari used to look like?