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#151
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Lol. These statements always omit the obvious!

 

Asari too human

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Quarian so alien

 

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I'm going to guess there will be mass recognition of the above when the new squaddie is a guy 

 

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BioWare he is way too human

 

I think people are just trying to forget that Quarian face reveal ever happened. Don''t remind us.



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I think people are just trying to forget that Quarian face reveal ever happened. Don''t remind us.

 

They even had the art and all... Just had to use it.

What were they afraid of? Fan backlash? The same thing they completely ignored when it came to the ending fiasco?


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#153
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I think people are just trying to forget that Quarian face reveal ever happened. Don''t remind us.

The books already set this in motion well before the reveal! 

 

 

They even had the art and all... Just had to use it.

What were they afraid of? Fan backlash? The same thing they completely ignored when it came to the ending fiasco?

 

Yes. Some fans were asking that the quarians look better (not different or more alien) than humans. So they used a human supermodel so they'd look better, but honestly given the horribe cc anything looks better than ME humans. I guess they will use a male supermodel for a quarian guy. I know there were some fans who wanted to go the cybernetic route, with actual cybernetics not pretty tattoo lines.



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To be fair, it's possible that the Quarian appearance already got a bit of a retcon with the Extended Cut. 

 

The ending slide for Synthesis showed an unmasked Quarian who had a dark purple skin tone. That's at least somewhat more alien than Tali's reveal, which didn't even bother to change the skin tone for the model in the stock photo.



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To be fair, it's possible that the Quarian appearance already got a bit of a retcon with the Extended Cut. 

 

The ending slide for Synthesis showed an unmasked Quarian who had a dark purple skin tone. That's at least somewhat more alien than Tali's reveal, which didn't even bother to change the skin tone for the model in the stock photo.

 

But... supposedly they're going to ignore everything connected to the ending, and we are yet to even have a confirmation of Quarians in ME:A,

so is this even going to have any effect? Only time will tell I suppose.



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But... supposedly they're going to ignore everything connected to the ending, and we are yet to even have a confirmation of Quarians in ME:A,

so is this even going to have any effect? Only time will tell I suppose.

 

I'd bet on the Quarians remaining masked by default in all future sequels. That would probably even be the case if we get a post-ME3 sequel set in the Milky Way where Rannoch was resettled. They'd probably just drop a codex entry about the suits becoming an inextricable part of Quarian culture, and call it a day. 

 

If we ever see unmasked Quarians again it would probably be limited to LI content. Either way It would be interesting to see where they go with it. 

 

Personally I'd hope for a slight redesign. Since we never actually see an unmasked Quarian in the games, I wouldn't mind them ignoring the stock photo and the ending slide and doing something slightly different. They've already done something similar once before with the Batarians. This was the art that appeared with the codex entry for Batarians, before Bring Down the Sky released:

 

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I'd bet on the Quarians remaining masked by default in all future sequels. That would probably even be the case if we get a post-ME3 sequel set in the Milky Way where Rannoch was resettled. They'd probably just drop a codex entry about the suits becoming an inextricable part of Quarian culture, and call it a day. 

Tali actually already says as much in ME3 if you get peace between the Quarians and the Geth. She says that with the Geth helping them, soon they may not need their suits but may still wear them because they have become part of their culture. 


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#158
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If we look at our closest cousins here on Earth, the chimpanzee, they look less similar to us than the Asari. There are other "intelligent" animals on Earth which  do not have a humanoid form such as Elephants, crows, dogs. I would like to see bioware get creative with the aliens but base their design on sth biological or geographical. How would an intelligent race evolving on a planet with no cellulose or lignin (bark) look like? Would they use tools, and which ones if there is no wood? Most of our tools came from manipulating wood in certain forms. What about an aquatic race? or a species that builds its body with many different entities, where each body is a colony of that species. how about a species (doesnt have to be intelligent) that telepathically pacifies any other species, creating the perfect symbiosis with each new "trapped" predator? there's also this weird one I got from a comic, where a species can launch its tongue to cut an enemy, and it can trigger an orgasm which is so devastating (electric shock or some weird stuff like that) it will kill any other species apart from itself. I mean there's space to do really messed up aliens and that's okay if its okay for the aliens.



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Star Control 2 had a veritable collection of completely unhuman species like the Ur-Quan (who look somewhat like sentient Thresher Maws), Chenjesu (crystalline entities), Umgah (heavily genetically-modified blobs), Supox (sentient plants), Mycon (sentient fungus), Ilwrath (arachnids), Slylandro (gaseous entities from a gas giant), Zoq-Fot-Pik (a symbiosis of three bizarre species), Orz (weird fish-like things), Dnyarri (looking like brains on frog legs). But you never got to encounter the specimens of those races in person, only on static viewscreen. Implementing a similar array of races in a Mass Effect-like game would be a lot of pain for the developers and animators.

If Frostbite engine allows to animate such species with relative ease - why not?


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#160
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I think the best example of a succesful alien (not too humanoid but still familiar) were the turians. Half-naked Garrus actually made me a bit uncomfortable.

My avatar's face was a good try overall. Really liked the weird skin part under the cheeks.

Biggest disappointment for me was Edi in her new metal skin. There were so many opportunities to make her look really interesting.


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I don't know, there are some very cool and crazy alien designs on deviantart.

I bet many are an amalgam of things that are familiar.



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At least she don't look like a turian woman!

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^ She is the new romance for the guys. Move aside Cassie and Josie!


My body is ready :wub:

#163
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The response you will get:

 

But...but Tali has 3 fingers and 3 toes and bent legs.

 

The response they get: 

 

So what asari breed through mind melding, are parthenogenic, have head tentacles, uber-biotics, and have some weird drell-like frills on the back of their necks.

 

But it is still not good enough!
 

Quarians are just humans in cool suits, and you can thank the photoshop. And the books and one of the devs imagining Tali looked like Famke Janssen.

 

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Cosplay

Are you incapable of defending the asari without attacking and resorting to ridiculous oversimplifications of the design of other species? Quarians aren't "humans in cool suits", their biology is in fact so different that they can't even acquire nutrition from the same food (also they apparently have allergic reactions to it), and their unique immunology literally dictates their entire culture from where they can live to how they raise their children. Even as far as we know of the appearance outside of the permanent envirosuits goes, they do have different bone structure, along with a few minor differences like slits for ears (more similar to the asari  or a cross between the two than humans), bioluminscent eyes and skintone just from what we have seen and been described in Ascenscion (Hilo'Jaa's tortured corpse there was described as gray skinned much like the ones shown in the Synthesis ending slide. Tali's lazily done stock photo closer to simply being a pale caucasian is the outlier here).

Quarians are the only ME species that can be cosplayed? I mean, just from what I can see that "quarian's" eyes, hands, knees and lower legs clearly aren't right, but take a look at this "asari".
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"lol asari are just blue painted human women with shaved eyebrows wearing a hat"

I really don't get this weird waifu war that asari and quarian fanbois seem to engage in all the time. Both are humanoid aliens (as are most in this setting). That doesn't mean they can't be interesting. Personally, I was hoping the heavy cybernetics initially said to be present in quarians and supported elsewhere in lore would be played up more in terms of visibility, but it's not like they're prevented from doing that in the future anyway as Tali's an individual and she doesn't have to represent the cultural norm in that regard.
 



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At least she don't look like a turian woman!

 

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^ She is the new romance for the guys. Move aside Cassie and Josie!

 

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:lol: :P


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#165
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Can we get a truly alien race like the Chenjesu? They don't look anything like humans, and they don't look like birds, or bats, or turtles. They don't even have arms, legs, eyes, ears or mouths. They're just big crystalline rocks.


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#166
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Can we get a truly alien race like the Chenjesu? They don't look anything like humans, and they don't look like birds, or bats, or turtles. They don't even have arms, legs, eyes, ears or mouths. They're just big crystalline rocks.

 

The Chenjesu were probably too alien. 

 

One thing that is key about alien design is that they need a means of manipulating their environment. You can't reach the stars without tool use. That means having eyes and arms and hands, or something else that serves a similar function. 



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The Chenjesu were probably too alien. 

 

One thing that is key about alien design is that they need a means of manipulating their environment. You can't reach the stars without tool use. That means having eyes and arms and hands, or something else that serves a similar function. 

 

They appeared to use electromagnetic or psionic powers to manipulate their environment. In Mass Effect, biotics can be used to achieve telekinesis, so I think it's credible that a race with similar anatomy to the Chenjesu could be quite advanced.



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They appeared to use electromagnetic or psionic powers to manipulate their environment. In Mass Effect, biotics can be used to achieve telekinesis, so I think it's credible that a race with similar anatomy to the Chenjesu could be quite advanced.

That's the Leviathans. 



#169
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That's the Leviathans. 

 

But they aren't rocks, like the Chenjesu. The Chenjesu are big gemstones that shoot electricity to manipulate things, including other gemstones.



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That would be pretty interesting actually, an alien species that evolved to be innately biotic, utilizing the mass effect fields as a natural part of their biology to overcome obstacles that would have otherwise prevented them from achieving things like tool use or other aspects of a sentient civilization. This being different from species like the Asari, that adapted to use biotics, but could have otherwise achieved a society without it.

 

As far as a 'rock' type alien goes, I thought the Diruk from Numenera were pretty cool:

 

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#171
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In my headcanon, the Hanar are all biotics.

 

I simply can't see a jellyfish standing upright and walking on their tentacles without natural biotics.

 

I know that supposedly they have some kind of enviro-suit on them, but you don't really see any suits when you look at them,

and they don't have any supporting exoskeletons either.



#172
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In my headcanon, the Hanar are all biotics.

 

I simply can't see a jellyfish standing upright and walking on their tentacles without natural biotics.

 

I know that supposedly they have some kind of enviro-suit on them, but you don't really see any suits when you look at them,

and they don't have any supporting exoskeletons either.

 

 

I think it is mentioned somewhere in the lore that the Hanar have mass effect generators cybernetically installed when they are leaving their home world and must interact with the other spcecies for extended durations.

 

I know that they have to get cybernetic implants to convert their bioluminescent language into something that sound based language users can understand, and that they have to undergo social education classes in order to not offend or be offended by the other aliens' "impolite" speech, so maybe it's part of a suite of operations/programs that are done when a Hanar wants or needs to leave Kajhe and deal with the rest of the galaxy. 



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That would be pretty interesting actually, an alien species that evolved to be innately biotic

That would make for an interesting society. Instead of using a electromechanical machine to terraform the worlds to their specification, they just use biotics. Imagine coming on a group of aliens who are using biotics to change a hill into a flat plain. COOL!

 

 

 

As far as a 'rock' type alien goes, I thought the Diruk from Numenera were pretty cool:

I always liked the look of the Granok from WildStar:

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That would make for an interesting society. Instead of using a electromechanical machine to terraform the worlds to their specification, they just use biotics. Imagine coming on a group of aliens who are using biotics to change a hill into a flat plain. COOL!

 

I agree, very interesting indeed.

 

I always liked the look of the Granok from WildStar:

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Eh, too human IMO (Though I do love to play Wildstar). It just doesn't make sense to me why a rock based alien would have such a humanoid shape; especially if the species in question could utilize mass effect fields to accomplish the same tasks (perhaps even better in some cases) than a species that had to evolve biped movement and opposable thumbs for necessity's sake. 

 

It's the same reason why I don't really care for 'female' robots in games like Wildstar as well. Why do the Mechairi have to have genders and then why does the 'female' robot; built for combat; need breasts and built-in high heels for their feet?



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I think ME:A needs these:

 

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Just do it Bioware