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[7twozero]

http://masseffect.wi...ki/Randall_Ezno

Someone like him?

That was a fun game. I was wondering if op's question reminded anyone else about this guy.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Still, Hackett won't surive several hundred years. Asari definitely live that long. Maybe Krogan, perhaps Proteans.

Krogan definitely live that long. They are the longest-living of the races in our cycle. Patriarch on Omega is a veteran of the Rachni Wars, which was two millennium before the Shepard Trilogy.

[Han Shot First]

After the Shepard trilogy the mere mention of Cerberus triggers me. 

[Zekka]

stop giving them ideas

[Heimdall]

That was a fun game. I was wondering if op's question reminded anyone else about this guy.

*Raises hand*

I was actually expecting him to show up in ME3 DLC for awhile there...

[Giantdeathrobot]

I don't want anything that reminds me that Cerberus was ever a thing. This includes, but is not limited to: Cerberus itself; ex-Cerberus personel; Cerberus logos; Cerberus elements from alternate dimensions, timelines or universes; Cerberus or ex-Cerberus romance options; references to any and all Cerberus operations and/or scientific ventures; icons, clones, representations, remains, relics, or replicas of TIM, Kai Leng or (Catalyst save us) both, and any actual three-headed dog, Varen or native equivalent that may or may not be considered as representing the mythological cerberus as opposed to Cerberus itself.

 

TLDR: no.

[CrimsonN7]

 

Gonna be a no from me also Ron.

[Donk]

A crazy asari? Why not make everyone crazy? Let's make an asylum ship. Give one dissociative idenitity disorder. Two squadmates for the price of one.

And romance option. Don't forget that.

[ZipZap2000]

The only cameo I'm really expecting is Admiral Hackett or one of the members of the council giving a speech about ensuring the survival of the races.

Probably this.

If we're lucky we'll get to hear Meer/Hale doing the send off.

They also said more recently that squad mates will not feature because "Story wise it wouldn't make much sense."

[ZipZap2000]

No thanks. New start, new people, new stories. Cerberus should remain in the Milky Way.

They shouldn't even exist there anymore to be honest. The **** they pulled should make them unviable as a political movement. Terrorism and bumbling scientists aside, harvesting humans and putting their children through processing should have been enough to end them.

And their ideology is so extreme that in a post war setting its unlikely to survive. They'd have to argue sacrificing humanity to save it was a good thing or admit they were killing humans for the reapers.

[Vegeta 77]

I can see bioware being predictable with cerberus they will stab you in the back or is a spy do something new.

 

cerberes had there time its the new enemys turn.

[ArcadiaGrey]

Krogan definitely live that long. They are the longest-living of the races in our cycle. Patriarch on Omega is a veteran of the Rachni Wars, which was two millennium before the Shepard Trilogy.

 

Seriously?  I always thought they were short-lived, maybe less than humans.  Well bugger me I didn't know that. 

It's a wonder any of them ever get to old age mind, what with their love of head butting.

[Monster A-Go Go]

I don't want anything that reminds me that Cerberus was ever a thing. This includes, but is not limited to: Cerberus itself; ex-Cerberus personel; Cerberus logos; Cerberus elements from alternate dimensions, timelines or universes; Cerberus or ex-Cerberus romance options; references to any and all Cerberus operations and/or scientific ventures; icons, clones, representations, remains, relics, or replicas of TIM, Kai Leng or (Catalyst save us) both, and any actual three-headed dog, Varen or native equivalent that may or may not be considered as representing the mythological cerberus as opposed to Cerberus itself.

 

I dislike Cerburus as much as the next twenty non-humans, but maybe I'm predicting MEA to be far different than others do.  In my mind, we have an ark ship pulling out of port before the Crucible is even halfway finished.  A massive undertaking, Alliance-led but incorporating representatives from all Milky Way races, our characters are in stasis for many years (decades (centuries)) required to FTL into Andromeda.  Awakening, we see that even though the events of ME3 have long passed, the Cerberus agents who infiltrated the project are as modern and topical as ever.  They snuck their way onto this effort of preservation, and are hellbent on making the continued existence of life-as-we-know-it a Human-Led Joint ™.  In this way, I feel that Cerberus is a more natural enemy than they've ever been.

 

Thus, I'm open to having Cerberus defectors on my team.  All I care about is their plausibility within the plot and their completely neutered ties to the Illusive Man's lurching exceptionalism machine.

[thepiebaker]

Seriously?  I always thought they were short-lived, maybe less than humans.  Well bugger me I didn't know that. 

It's a wonder any of them ever get to old age mind, what with their love of head butting.

Blue rose of Ilium thing in ME2 the asari was afraid to commit to a krogan LI because she was used to the option of "well if i'm unhappy with a human/turian/salarian I just have to wait a few decades until they naturally croak, not an option for krogran"

[Gothfather]

To be honest i found Cerberus to be a very badly written antagonist as an organisation that suffered from a very well written head. The Illusive man was very well written but the organization itself was really badly thought out as a nemesis. They talk about being human first but do all kinds of crazy alien experiments on humans. For a group that is all about "humanity first" they really don't seem to be very human centric. 

 

They were first caged as a terrorist group that targeted "threats" to the human first agenda. After their experiments in ME1 and Me2 they would be targeted by their own organization. It just didn't make sense. Martin Sheen was an excellent actor who really nailed that performance but the organization itself always made me think "WTF how does that help humanity?"

 

I really don't want to see them resurrect this organization in any form. Seriously how did Cerberus survive so many years under TIMs management? Every major research project ends in a disaster under his watch with the exception of the Lazarus project. How did this guy make any money in business when is management skills result is so many corners being cut which leads to disaster?

 

I'd much rather see racial tensions between the non council races vs the council races as everything is "reset" in Andromeda so the non council races are pushing for an equal power sharing but the council races want to maintain the balance of power. That would be a far more interesting race divide than some racist human first organization. At least in my opinion.

[thepiebaker]

To be honest i found Cerberus to be a very badly written antagonist as an organisation that suffered from a very well written head. The Illusive man was very well written but the organization itself was really badly thought out as a nemesis. They talk about being human first but do all kinds of crazy alien experiments on humans. For a group that is all about "humanity first" they really don't seem to be very human centric

They did the same experiments on other species as well. You fight the incredible krogan hulk courtesy of Cerberus in infiltrator on the phones. The aspect in question is that what was the intended outcomes? technology that would have put humanity first like super soldiers (the soldiers you fight in ME3), super biotics (jack), super intelligence (what tim tried to do to himself at the end of ME3), reversing reaperization/indoctrination and controlling the reapers (horizon, ME3) and more. Sure people were tortured and experimented on against their will in a crsis where survival is on the line like the reaper invasion some people see it as beneficial to sacrifice others for a chance for the group to survive.

​Kill one save a thousand or something like that

[Mechler]

To be honest i found Cerberus to be a very badly written antagonist as an organisation that suffered from a very well written head. The Illusive man was very well written but the organization itself was really badly thought out as a nemesis. They talk about being human first but do all kinds of crazy alien experiments on humans. For a group that is all about "humanity first" they really don't seem to be very human centric. 

 

They were first caged as a terrorist group that targeted "threats" to the human first agenda. After their experiments in ME1 and Me2 they would be targeted by their own organization. It just didn't make sense. Martin Sheen was an excellent actor who really nailed that performance but the organization itself always made me think "WTF how does that help humanity?"

 

I really don't want to see them resurrect this organization in any form. Seriously how did Cerberus survive so many years under TIMs management? Every major research project ends in a disaster under his watch with the exception of the Lazarus project. How did this guy make any money in business when is management skills result is so many corners being cut which leads to disaster?

 

I'd much rather see racial tensions between the non council races vs the council races as everything is "reset" in Andromeda so the non council races are pushing for an equal power sharing but the council races want to maintain the balance of power. That would be a far more interesting race divide than some racist human first organization. At least in my opinion.

 

Well hopefully we won't have many racist humans in the Andromeda galaxy. I mean besides one racist squadmate we will inevitably get.

[ZipZap2000]

I'd much rather see racial tensions between the non council races vs the council races as everything is "reset" in Andromeda so the non council races are pushing for an equal power sharing but the council races want to maintain the balance of power. That would be a far more interesting race divide than some racist human first organization. At least in my opinion.

Same, one of the things I often think of is how different the game would be if the ME1 Terminus Systems/Council Races rivalry had been factored into the game.

They were supposed to be an organised conglomerate of alien empires and Merc groups with enough firepower to threaten the Council or at least give them pause.

By ME3 Aria was the most powerful of all of them and she couldn't even stand up to Cerberus without help.

[PlatonicWaffles]

Just... no thank you. I don't want any Cerberus in this. I'm still personally hoping for the Ark ship leaving post-ME3.

[Scofield]

Honestly?? im liking the idea this game only has Mass Effect in the title because it is set in the same universe (obviously) other than that i hope they just make a completely different game with minimal ties to the original trilogy

[Andrew Lucas]

Depends on the reminders.  
 
But if we're abandoning the setting entirely, make a clean break.  Heck I don't even want "Mass Effect" in the title!

You know you don't have to play it, right? Don't bother.

[Ahglock]

Seriously? I always thought they were short-lived, maybe less than humans. Well bugger me I didn't know that.
It's a wonder any of them ever get to old age mind, what with their love of head butting.

Yeah it falls into the what were they thinking category. They are stupid durable, regenerate, have births of 100 kids and live 1000+ years. No other race could survive just due to the resource drain they'd cause on a few hundred years. It's why curing the genophage without some backup plague to genocide them after the reaper war is insane.

[Monster A-Go Go]

Yeah it falls into the what were they thinking category. They are stupid durable, regenerate, have births of 100 kids and live 1000+ years. No other race could survive just due to the resource drain they'd cause on a few hundred years. It's why curing the genophage without some backup plague to genocide them after the reaper war is insane.

 

In at least one of my games, that backup plan is an army of Reapers with Shepard's intelligence encouraging responsibility...or else.

[ArcadiaGrey]

Yeah it falls into the what were they thinking category. They are stupid durable, regenerate, have births of 100 kids and live 1000+ years. No other race could survive just due to the resource drain they'd cause on a few hundred years. It's why curing the genophage without some backup plague to genocide them after the reaper war is insane.

 

That's why I would absolutely fake the genophage cure if I were Shep.  I do both in game, but if it were real life it would be insane to let them breed at full capacity.  Which is why I'm mystified by ppl saying it's mean not to give the cure.  Are you kidding?  Have you read the codex?  Or ever paid attention to anything about the Krogan at all????

 

God bless the Salarians and Turians is all I can say.

[Heimdall]

I still kinda want to see Randall Ezno return... 

 

But that's the only reminder of Cerberus I'm willing to tolerate.