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What made the first darkspawn to awaken?


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 So basically Cory and the Architect what made them awaken. The Architect says he suddenly was free with intelligence he does not know why and we do not know a timeline of when he became sentient again but he did.

  Also Cory he seem not to know about the events of the first blight and he just became sentient again after he was freed.

  So what made this 2 darkspawn the first of their kind to become sentient again and why do they not remember their time as mindless Darkspawn? 



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Because when you breach the Black City; something bad is bound to occure.

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Corypheus and the Architect were people. They were somehow altered by the trip to the Fade and what they did in the Black/Golden city. The darkspawn predate their trip but were not active as far as we know.

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a possible reason their awakening:
 
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Corypheus and the Architect were people. They were somehow altered by the trip to the Fade and what they did in the Black/Golden city. The darkspawn predate their trip but were not active as far as we know.

Maybe but they seem to be having memory loss they do not remember their actions after the black city meaning the first blight, What made them sentient again which I think was taken from them until the beginning of Dragon Age I guess.



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The memory loss could be explained via demons/spirits taking them away (like Cole and The Nightmare demon does) In one legend the 7 magisters apparently fought the Archon of that time and were defeated and scattered via "calling spirits from the Fade"

 

Prior to Corypheus being sealed by the Grey Wardens he was speaking about how he was Dumat's servant/ his priest, etc. But shortly after Hawke released him, Corypheus still believed he was back in Tevinter ... maybe he was dreaming; hence, why he was confused.

 

Maybe they gained back their awareness simply through time?



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The smell of coffee and bacon from a nearby camp; possibly enough to wake the dead....
 
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It was the hubris of men and the twirling of evil Tevinter moustaches.
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Corypheus and the Architect were people. They were somehow altered by the trip to the Fade and what they did in the Black/Golden city. The darkspawn predate their trip but were not active as far as we know.

Questionable, the Blight certainly predates their trip but the jury's still out on darkspawn themselves.

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Blight and darkspawns exist and was known at the time of Arlathan, ancient elven knoledge of taint was saved even after Old gods and their worshipers was hard to erase elven knoledges, and later in first blight this knoledge was given to tevinters blood mages who create grey wardens

 

First blight was started cos of the dwarf miners who dig a tomb-prison of darkspawns with archdeamon Dumat

 

it was in a Heidrun Thaig



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Because the devs forgot about that unique detail when they worked in the Legacy DLC.

 

As for the Architect, I believe he's just an emissary, an abnormality among the darkspawn, as shown in The Calling, not an actual Magister, since he has absolutely no memories of ever having been a Magister at all. 



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Because the devs forgot about that unique detail when they worked in the Legacy DLC.

 

As for the Architect, I believe he's just an emissary, an abnormality among the darkspawn, as shown in The Calling, not an actual Magister, since he has absolutely no memories of ever having been a Magister at all. 

No he is it was confirmed in something called the World of Thedas or something like that. On short he was the priest of Urtamiel and one of the magisters which is the reason I asked when did they awakened.

You see in the books he says he for some reason became sentient and intelligent so that means that for some time he was mindless like every darkspawn. Cory the same must have been mindless in the first blight until for some reason what made them mindless stopped and became sentient and remembered his time as a magister.



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Basically Corypheus, and friends were tricked by Falkor's shady cousin into invading the ceptic tank of the Maker's house and were mutated by the magically radioactive ****, *edit* - which also gave them amnesia. 



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This is just a theory but as you all know the darkspawn hear the calling of the old gods well the magisters are special that they where well humans before and sentient and intelligent. But as darkspawn they have to hear the song of the old gods all the songs of all 7 of them basically making them go crazy and mindless but after the 4-th blight with most of them dead the song was weak enough for them to awaken or to resist the song.

What do you think?



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No he is it was confirmed in something called the World of Thedas or something like that. On short he was the priest of Urtamiel and one of the magisters which is the reason I asked when did they awakened.

You see in the books he says he for some reason became sentient and intelligent so that means that for some time he was mindless like every darkspawn. Cory the same must have been mindless in the first blight until for some reason what made them mindless stopped and became sentient and remembered his time as a magister.

 

I haven't read World of Thedas, so I can't argue on that specific topic. All I know is that in the Calling, he's displayed as an ordinary emissary.

 

However, it's very odd that a former Magister, one of the Seven, should not remember anything from his life or time of Ancient Tevinter, while Corypheus immediately remembers a great deal upon regaining consciousness.

 

I guess we'll have to wait to see whether more info will be displayed on the character in future installments. 



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Blight and darkspawns exist and was known at the time of Arlathan, ancient elven knoledge of taint was saved even after Old gods and their worshipers was hard to erase elven knoledges, and later in first blight this knoledge was given to tevinters blood mages who create grey wardens

First blight was started cos of the dwarf miners who dig a tomb-prison of darkspawns with archdeamon Dumat

it was in a Heidrun Thaig

The Blight was evidently known in Arlathan, and there was some some sort of tainted creature, but we don't know if it was darkspawn or merely ghouls. The information I've seen leans me toward the latter.

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I haven't read World of Thedas, so I can't argue on that specific topic. All I know is that in the Calling, he's displayed as an ordinary emissary.

However, it's very odd that a former Magister, one of the Seven, should not remember anything from his life or time of Ancient Tevinter, while Corypheus immediately remembers a great deal upon regaining consciousness.

I guess we'll have to wait to see whether more info will be displayed on the character in future installments.

In a codex in DAI, there is a story of what appears to be three of the Magister Sidreal arguing about the attempt to enter the Oil City, but they can barely remember the details.

It is likely that the other Magister Sidreal all have memory issues like the Architect simply due to how old their memories are. Or my personal theory that the Architect's memories were stolen when he was eaten by another Magister Sidreal at the end of the three Darkspawn conference.

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The Architect was a Grey Warden that went to his calling and turned into a talking emissary. This was discussed in "The Calling" DA book.



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The Architect was a Grey Warden that went to his calling and turned into a talking emissary. This was discussed in "The Calling" DA book.

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Ignoring that Gaider confirmed that Corypheus and the Architect are the same type of creature, The Calling is completely ambiguous about his origins.  He doesn't know why he is able to ignore the Calling and assumes he was born this way.  He does have the power to accelerate a Grey Warden's taint and transform them into advanced ghouls that can ignore the taint as he does, but it doesn't claim that he is such a creature.



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The Blight was evidently known in Arlathan, and there was some some sort of tainted creature, but we don't know if it was darkspawn or merely ghouls. The information I've seen leans me toward the latter.

Heidrun Thaig and blight-darkspawns biology(ghouls cant create darkspawns and just become mindless slaves and dies only darkspawn via females who survived and turned to broodmothers create darkspawn) confirms that some darkspawns was inprisoned with archdeamons in their tombs, legion of dead even find many dead dried bodies(in the poses like they was kinda pray as legiones confirm) of them inside(and not outside) of the tomb after blight

 

Heidrun Thaig lyrium miners dig some darkspawns, king send soldiers to investigate, and later there was no news from thaig and first blight who consume deep roads and later ancient tevinter lands