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[JRandall0308]

I was too lazy to read the thread since I last posted but -- against Geth -- you must keep moving, unless you can kill super fast. That's because the Pyros and Hunters *will* flank the crap out of you whenever they can.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

I was too lazy to read the thread since I last posted but -- against Geth -- you must keep moving, unless you can kill super fast. That's because the Bombers *will* flank the crap out of you whenever they can.

Fixed.

[Sinful Force]

You got all that from three pugs who didn't say a single word to you?

 

No. I was getting kicked a lot early on for starting with gold almost right away on new PS3 manifest. Just like how you BSNers always kick new manifest players. So my sample size was indeed giantnormous.

[capn233]

Why do you say that? The Reegar seems quite good. For shields anyway.

 

Thanks for testing this! I myself tried Geth Scanner and it's mainly useful against Cerberus. I'm sure I don't have your skills so maybe I'll wait. Getting 6 consumables might take a while though.

 

Reegar with AP3 or 4 would be decent against armor even without Shredder or HVB, and should really be the only ammo you consider using on it until you get either of those mods ranked up.  Best against Gold Geth and Cerberus due to relative lack of armor bullet sponges.

 

Geth Scanner is useful against all factions on nearly every character except the ones with Hunter Mode.

[kiltysue]

Pick a krogan vanguard, geth, giant.

 

Disruptor ammo, or Incendiary, whichever you have.

 

Any weapon that gives you 200% cooldown

 

Spec your krogan out for melee, pick equipment

for melee/shields.

 

Charge on cooldown, melee everything.  Shoot things

here and there to get fire/tech explosions.

 

Pyros will die in 2 to 4 melee hits depending on gear,

with a charge on cooldown, they cannot kill you.

 

The prime/drone/turret can only stun you if you

are struck from behind.  So don't allow them to

be behind you.

 

Plink at bombers as they approach, melee, charge

just as their bombs are exploding.  You will take no

damage.

 

If you're having trouble, fight for awhile in the starting area,

if it looks like you are going to be swarmed, head down to

the ladder to descend (do not take the ramp).  Then run

over to Giants lower corner fight for awhile at the small,

enclosed ascending ramp.  If you are once again getting

overrun (possible if you are new with low level equipment),

head back to the starting area and repeat.

 

Objectives should be easy with your ability to tank.  Either

just stand at the objective and tank everything, or if necessary,

kite enemies away from the objective, then run to complete it.

[FuriousFelicia]

I remember my first gold solo was a product of testing with Juggs. I wanted to see which is better for mooks - Venom or Scorpion so I loaded White - Cerberus with no gear/consumables. As I said, I had no intention of soloing that match, only to see which one was better for CC, but then all of a sudden the narrator announced the extraction wave.

It was a piece of cake even with no anti armor weapons. I didn't even melee much. The biggest issue were the Atlases but I normally carry a Claymore with him, and then nothing is an issue. Hex helped a lot there.

[q5tyhj]

Cos in gold you'll have to deal increasingly with armour. The Reegar starts working there with piercing mods and damage boost, namely a HVB which you don't have. Not mentioning the lack of incheesiary ammo to make it faster for you.

Sure but its fine for Geth gold, especially if he's set up for melee- basically means the only armor he's going to be using his weapon on will be Primes, as he will be (or should be) headbutting all bombers and pyros into orbit. 

[czeuch]

I must admit that I like the Vanguard class quite a lot. Mainly both the HV and the kroguard.

I like being face to face with the enemies, even though it's often risky to do so. I like the rush

I also like the full melee build of the kroguard because it's heavy melee chains very well with BC. So yeah, I'd be using melee a lot.

 

After reading all these tips, I believe that my biggest flaw is that I don't stay mobile. I tend to stay in the same place for too long and that's where I screw things up.

 

I'll work on this and see if I can start to move around more.

[capn233]

After reading all these tips, I believe that my biggest flaw is that I don't stay mobile. I tend to stay in the same place for too long and that's where I screw things up.

 

Yes, when in doubt kite.  That is why most usually recommend Giant as the first map to attempt.  You can go in a large circuit around the perimeter and there is decent soft and hard cover to be found the whole way round.  After you have better guns and are more proficient, you can end up staying closer to the beginning more often.

[FuriousFelicia]

I must admit that I like the Vanguard class quite a lot. Mainly both the HV and the kroguard.
I like being face to face with the enemies, even though it's often risky to do so. I like the rush
I also like the full melee build of the kroguard because it's heavy melee chains very well with BC. So yeah, I'd be using melee a lot.
 
After reading all these tips, I believe that my biggest flaw is that I don't stay mobile. I tend to stay in the same place for too long and that's where I screw things up.
 
I'll work on this and see if I can start to move around more.

Moving constantly is one of main ingredients. But this also requires you to be extra careful even with Geth scanner. Spawns can often be unpredictable and if you get bushwhacked at the wave end, it's not a nice ride when berserk kicks in especially vs damn Captains.

[Quarian Master Race]

You got all that from three pugs who didn't say a single word to you?

I'd have probably votekicked kicked it without saying a single word. If only the forum had such a feature to get rid of it.

 

Go home Quarian, you're drunk!

I play better that way.

 

Well, I'd rather have a Black Widow with 3 shots... 1 shots weapons are not forggiven and I find using snipers much harder on MP than on SP for some reason. I guess that's because there's no dilation. I could try a Silver with that chick.

 

 

I've never had any issue being kicked. Maybe I got lucky. That's not the reason I want the Lone Wolf banner, it's more to have more banners as I only have 2 so far (5 different layouts). But I've seen some people with more challenge poitns than me and without banner. So having a banner (I have Biotic God and Mathemagician) already helps a bit with trust

Yeah, but you don't have that so I didn't suggest it  .

Single shot weapons are easy to use on a kit with a power like sabotage even if your aim isn't so quick, simply use the power to stagger and line up shots. For a very easy gold solo that isn't the obvious choice of Proguard/geth/anything this is what I'd suggest given your manifest. Play against Toasters on White or Giant, and just camp in the typical RHA spots either at the back of the indoors area looking down the staircase or just next to the LZ overlooking the center (respectively, for each map).  Probably the only time I'd ever suggest Berserk and Duration on sabotage, but it is very useful for a less experienced soloist in removing toaster aggro and allowing you to escape a bad situation, not to mention that explosive hack turns toasters into infinite grenades which ragdoll unshielded targets. You've enough shields to survive a prime salvo, and pretty much everything except a Prime is gonna die in a single shot anyway. Toasters are even stupid enough to line up for easy multikills quite often. 

It's still playing against toasters, so it will probably be really annoying especially if you don't have many nukes for waves 5 and 9, but at least it is easy.

Mathemagician alt with the quarian launching a glorious Tech attack to burninate her foes is already the 2nd best banner in the game anyway, right after Machinist with its two quarians. Don't see why you'd want Lone Wolf over that but W/e.

[czeuch]

Yeah, but you don't have that so I didn't suggest it  .

Single shot weapons are easy to use on a kit with a power like sabotage even if your aim isn't so quick, simply use the power to stagger and line up shots. For a very easy gold solo that isn't the obvious choice of Proguard/geth/anything this is what I'd suggest given your manifest. Play against Toasters on White or Giant, and just camp in the typical RHA spots either at the back of the indoors area looking down the staircase or just next to the LZ overlooking the center (respectively, for each map).  Probably the only time I'd ever suggest Berserk and Duration on sabotage, but it is very useful for a less experienced soloist in removing toaster aggro and allowing you to escape a bad situation, not to mention that explosive hack turns toasters into infinite grenades which ragdoll unshielded targets. You've enough shields to survive a prime salvo, and pretty much everything except a Prime is gonna die in a single shot anyway. Toasters are even stupid enough to line up for easy multikills quite often. 

It's still playing against toasters, so it will probably be really annoying especially if you don't have many nukes for waves 5 and 9, but at least it is easy.

Mathemagician alt with the quarian launching a glorious Tech attack to burninate her foes is already the 2nd best banner in the game anyway, right after Machinist with its two quarians. Don't see why you'd want Lone Wolf over that but W/e.

 

Main issue is that using Sabotage means no Cloak
No Cloak means you're vulnerable, at least I think so. I'd need quite some practice to pull this off with that kit, even if I played an infiltrator on Insanity SP.

 

Your opinion on the best banners is biased, to say the least, due to your nickname

[capn233]

Main issue is that using Sabotage means no Cloak
No Cloak means you're vulnerable, at least I think so. I'd need quite some practice to pull this off with that kit, even if I played an infiltrator on Insanity SP.

 

Your opinion on the best banners is biased, to say the least, due to your nickname

 

You can always use 1 power under cloak and still get the weapon damage bonus.

[Urizen]

You can use sabotage whilst cloaked. I suggest this pattern.

 

Cloak -> Sabo -> Shoot -> throw nade almost right away to hide your reload -> Cancel Reload -> repeat.

[Quarian Master Race]

Main issue is that using Sabotage means no Cloak
No Cloak means you're vulnerable, at least I think so. I'd need quite some practice to pull this off with that kit, even if I played an infiltrator on Insanity SP.

As the other two already mentioned, you can use Sabotage (or any power) from cloak and still have a full 1.5-2.5 seconds to make your shot while still getting the cloak's damage boost. Hiding Sabotage in cloak with her is actually advisable in almost all situations due to the power's absurdly long cooldown with all but very light weapon loadouts, and cloak's ability to shorten/hide it.

[MaxCrushmore]

^ The Lone Wolf Banner. The only reason I did it on my new PS3 account rigt away when I first started it as my first alt account. Folks just don't respect punny new manifest weapons and are quick to kick you. Lone Wolf Banner fixed that for me on PS3.

 

My second PS3 match today some guy ninja'd it to Platinum. I readied thinking "I'm good. I'm BSN material. Let's kick butt, epeen, and chew bubble gum." Everybody readied up but one guy unchecked it like "Dude. We're doing Platinum. Aren't you gonna do something about those pitiful level 1 consumables?" Was the vibe I got. I was like into the mic something like "Yeah, yeah. I know it's Platinum. And good to go." Because I was just going to spam Smash with the odd biotic charge anyway. But if it weren't from my uber cool Lone Wolf Banner. My pugs wouldn't of had faith in me.

 

Oh yeah, and that we succeeded too. Because "Lone Wolf Powers inspired confidence in my team."

 

That's crap BTW. While I think you get too tough a time here on BSN, you are flat out wrong on the bolded part.

 

I have many times entered a Gold lobby whith what appears to be a sub standard set up with an N7 rating about 30, and can count the # of times on one hand I've actually been kicked.

 

My experience has shown me that many players on the PSN are quite open to newer players.

[Sinful Force]

^ Ok, let me rephrase that as maxed manifest players.

 

I also wouldn't of done the solo challenge if I didn't think it would've helped. I'm not into the solo scene.

[capn233]

I have many times entered a Gold lobby whith what appears to be a sub standard set up with an N7 rating about 30, and can count the # of times on one hand I've actually been kicked.

 

 

Yeah.  That was a lot more likely in early 2012.

[Quarian Master Race]

That's crap BTW. While I think you get too tough a time here on BSN, you are flat out wrong on the bolded part.

 

I have many times entered a Gold lobby whith what appears to be a sub standard set up with an N7 rating about 30, and can count the # of times on one hand I've actually been kicked.

 

My experience has shown me that many players on the PSN are quite open to newer players.

yeah, I've started two new accounts playing nothing but gold and plat games from the get go, and have been kicked maybe 3 or 4 times total (all from plat lobbies, where you'll sometimes be kicked for bringing any kind of hipster build/character anyway).

I'm thinking they kicked it just because it's sinful force. I know I would if I were a pug that had ever lurked this forum at any point in the past year or so.

[TMB903]

Fixed.

Hunters and Pyros are deadly when flanking but you can stay in a defensive position if you kill them fast enough. Bombers though.....their single purpose is to flush you out of a safe zone into the open where Primes and Rocket Glitchers can eat you alive.

[Sinful Force]

I'm thinking they kicked it just because it's sinful force. I know I would if I were a pug that had ever lurked this forum at any point in the past year or so.

 

That is also possible. I was born with special feelings crushing powers. Just wish I knew how to activate it at will online. That would be pretty cool. "Fear me. I own this room. I own you."

 

[niniendowarrior]

I have tried to solo gold a few times and it's tough when I step out of that Kroguard Geth realm.  It's infuriating when you unluckily trip up from some patch of enemies or just decide to play it safe only to find a phantom uncloak and stab you.  The only reason I tried the kroguard thing was because it really felt doable. 

 

On PC, I get the itch to try gold soloing once in a while, but perhaps I'll be using something like the juggernaut on glacier so I avoid the sync kill dumbness.

[Malaclypse The Younger]

I've been grinding on the latest go-'round of Bloodpack Mastery - thus playing lotsa Krogans - and then this thread got me thinking so I geared up my Kroguard for a gold solo vs Geth on Giant, as conventional wisdom recommends. I gave some thought (not much, as it turns out...more on that below) to the whole early manifest thing and limited myself to level III CM/Disruptor/Shotgun amp and used a non- UR weapon (Piranha).

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I don't solo often, as I don't enjoy it that much, but it ended up being my fastest Gold solo so far at 35:32 - no great shakes, I know (but I haven't soloed more than a few since grinding out my BotB). I did come away wishing that I'd done my BotB gold solos that way, but back then my general dislike for Vanguards (still prefer any other class) AND Krogans (I've changed my mind completely about KSol & KSent) was too strong. It really was a total cakewalk compared to the ones I'd done before and I completed it rather easily in a single attempt (ahhh, if only I could say anything remotely like that about my first successful solos).

Only then did I go look at the OP's manifest...and realized that my "concessions" to some imaginary, theoretical light manifest did not "concess" very much at all. I s'pose I've really forgotten what it's like...even though I have dallied occasionally with my alt account....

All that to say, OP, buddy, just keep playing and buying those Veteran Packs because, first things first, you have not a single Piercing mod for any kind of weapon - and those aren't hard to come by as every one of them is only an Uncommon item. I don't think you need a bunch of big guns to make Gold solos do-able, but maybe put the idea on the back burner until you flesh out those Uncommon mods. And re: consumables, though I could've been much more careful and conservative with ops/gels, I'd have been very anxious if I could only have carried 2-3 of them.

So, kudos to you, OP for setting big goals -- and maybe you'll turn out to be someone who both enjoys and excels at the solo thing -- but if I were you I would just play more regular games (they're faster and therefore more economically efficient) and buy more packs so you can pierce more armor and use elemental ammo instead of AP/Drill. Disruptor ammo's stunning powers sure kept fewer bullets from smacking my big, preppie pink & green Krogan arse (and the occasional Tech Burst kills are nice, too).

[TheBunz]

It can't be done. Refer to other thread

[HamleticTortoise]

Lots of great advice in the thread already! As my name might suggest, I went into my first solo thinking "slow and steady wins the race". As such, I pretty much only used charge and heavy melee, since they both grant some damage resistance. I used the Reegar only to help with Primes. I went to Giant, and it is a great map because its long sightlines allow you to often escape bad situations by charging enemies that are still only approaching you.

It took a while, but I got it done first try. Nowadays, when I feel the need to go headbutt some toasters, I make a lot more use of the Reegar, and while it does speed things up, I find it makes me use more of my consumables: more shooting means less heavy meleeing, which in turn means less DR and less Rage. In this spirit, I would suggest maybe trying the Disciple (Graal is definitely better, but you don't have it yet)? You would actually shoot the thing for three reasons: prime the last Prime of the wave for FEs, stagger pyros with a headshot before they down you, and shoot cloaked hunters to help locking HM on them (the DoT of inc ammo makes them easier to lock on to, I find). The disciple does all of these things, and since it does not really do enough damage, it ensures that you take care of enemies the Krogan way . Something to think about

 

Better advice is probably to come back to this when you have 6 of all consumables, and better gear, though. And the Kroguard can actually help you get another banner: Dog of War, coming in three nice varieties Completing the melee challenge should be really easy for you now, and there was a great thread recently detailing a number of farming strategies for grabs. The kroguard is basically immortal on bronze, and with the right strategy, that challenge wouldn't take very long at all to finish