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#151
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It's quite usefull in many situations as it put's a good distance between you and close enemy units (especially Phantoms) quickly. The dodge is quite long so takes some time to get used to but I consider it to be highly usefull.

 

The back dodge, with lots of space behind? Sure. The side dodge sucks.



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Only on KroLord do I ever spec last fitness for health because he can still reach Rage mode in one hit (the running backhand like I've said).

 

But I was playing KroGuard yesterday, and I was not having fun having to always revive pugs because I always had to make sure my rage was being feed. Because rage is the key to his tankyness and ability to take on bosses with more tankyness and dps. But I don't know, maybe this will work for you after all. Just try it.

 

Even if the Power says you need 2 melee kills (1 with the last evo), you still need only 1 weapon melee (sprint + melee)?

 

Landslide victory for the Asari dash (unintended pun)...by multiple klicks.

 

I only have 1 Asari, which is the vanguard. Although Stasis is a cool power, I don't think it synergizes with vanguard.

 

But now I think: stasis + sniper isn't this a good way to get some easy headshots? It'd be weird to use a sniper with a vanguard though.


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I only have 1 Asari, which is the vanguard. Although Stasis is a cool power, I don't think it synergizes with vanguard.

 

But now I think: stasis + sniper isn't this a good way to get some easy headshots? It'd be weird to use a sniper with a vanguard though.

 

Oh that's right OP...

You had a different topic in mind when starting this thread.

Well your AV will have the game's best dodge...does that help? LOL



#154
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What would you suggest on Fitness? That's my build:

 

http://kalence.drupa...3522515!!!G.FD8

 

My main question is: if I go full health/shield, wouldn't that reduce my DPS too much? Or should I go like Rank 4 health/shield and rest melee?

 

In the build I put on the second page, it was straight durability.  Rank 5 is debatable, but the shield regen is ok on Battlemaster in solos because of objectives.  If you are running Reegar, your DPS isn't coming from melee.

 

The difference is 500 barrier and 10% rage DR.  If you start running cyclonic modulator 3 or 4 for your attempts, the 500 barrier becomes relatively less important.

 

edit: if you really want to melee it might be better to put your SG omniblade on the Eviscerator with High Caliber Barrel and go AP or Disruptor ammo (tech bursts, but no armor piercing so need to melee armor).  Melee is going to be more difficult with your manifest, IMO.  Well on Kroguard.  I guess you have Brawler, so that would be the one I would use for melee.



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Even if the Power says you need 2 melee kills (1 with the last evo), you still need only 1 weapon melee (sprint + melee)?

 

 

I only have 1 Asari, which is the vanguard. Although Stasis is a cool power, I don't think it synergizes with vanguard.

 

But now I think: stasis + sniper isn't this a good way to get some easy headshots? It'd be weird to use a sniper with a vanguard though.

 

Heavy Melee kills don't require you to sprint first.

 

Asari Vanguard Sniper... can be done, but it's usually not as effective as doing her BC+grenades thing. The Asari Adept on the other hand... she's excellent with a Paladin, Carnifex, Arc Pistol... or even a real sniper rifle, if you can handle the weight. Stasis > Headshot is great, but you need to be able to put down the target with one or two shot, otherwise they fall to the ground and hitting their head becomes problematic. I'd give you my AA build but seeing as you don't have her yet... there's probably not much of a point. ^^



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In the build I put on the second page, it was straight durability.  Rank 5 is debatable, but the shield regen is ok on Battlemaster in solos because of objectives.  If you are running Reegar, your DPS isn't coming from melee.

 

The difference is 500 barrier and 10% rage DR.  If you start running cyclonic modulator 3 or 4 for your attempts, the 500 barrier becomes relatively less important.

 

edit: if you really want to melee it might be better to put your SG omniblade on the Eviscerator with High Caliber Barrel and go AP or Disruptor ammo (tech bursts, but no armor piercing so need to melee armor).  Melee is going to be more difficult with your manifest, IMO.  Well on Kroguard.  I guess you have Brawler, so that would be the one I would use for melee.

 

Well, I can test this out because right now I'm full melee. I got to lvl 20 quite fast after promoting Vanguards, so I can do it again and test your build.

 

Heavy Melee kills don't require you to sprint first.

 

For the KroLord, Heavy Melee is the Battle Hammer. The Krogan Charge is sprint + melee. I believe that the backhand stuff Sinful mentioned.



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Even if the Power says you need 2 melee kills (1 with the last evo), you still need only 1 weapon melee (sprint + melee)?

 

Yes. But for KroLord only.



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For the KroLord, Heavy Melee is the Battle Hammer. The Krogan Charge is sprint + melee. I believe that the backhand stuff Sinful mentioned.

 

All Krogan except the Worlard can do their heavy melee attack standing still. Only the Worlard has to sprint first because standing he uses his hammer instead. Which isn't particularly relevant as both attacks count as heavy melee, so my point stands anyway. ;)



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Heavy Melee kills don't require you to sprint first.

 

I'm talking about the KroLord running heavy melee that only works is you sprint first. Unlike how it works on regular Krogans where you just hold the melee button = running heavy melee backhand, aka; just like the running one.

 

If you just press heavy melee with KroLord, you do the heavy melee hammer move. And that one may require 2 hits to reach rage mode if specced for two hits. Unlike the running one where it's always 1 hit = rage mode (even if you specced for 2 hits).

 

 

 

For the KroLord, Heavy Melee is the Battle Hammer. The Krogan Charge is sprint + melee. I believe that the backhand stuff Sinful mentioned.

 

 

Yes.



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I'm talking about the KroLord running heavy melee that only works is you sprint first. Unlike how it works on regular Krogans where you just hold the melee button = running heavy melee backhand, aka; just like the running one.

 

If you just press heavy melee with KroLord, you do the heavy melee hammer move. And that one may require 2 hits to reach rage mode if specced for two hits. Unlike the running one where it's always 1 hit = rage mode (even if you specced for 2 hits).

 

 
 

 

Yes.

 

 

All Krogan except the Worlard can do their heavy melee attack standing still. Only the Worlard has to sprint first because standing he uses his hammer instead. Which isn't particularly relevant as both attacks count as heavy melee, so my point stands anyway. ;)



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Teleport dodge can't go through walls by default? It's a trick you need to do?

 

The Asari teleport dodge doesn't go through walls, but the dodges of the Fury and Cabal do (there may be another that I'm forgetting.)



#162
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The Asari teleport dodge doesn't go through walls, but the dodges of the Fury and Cabal do (there may be another that I'm forgetting.)

 

Slayer.



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Slayer.

 

He doesn't count. whistle.gif



#164
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He doesn't count. whistle.gif

 

Because not a grill?  :P Or because he's sterile and not really a he? 



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I only have 1 Asari, which is the vanguard. Although Stasis is a cool power, I don't think it synergizes with vanguard.

 

Just a quick FYI on this point - Stasis counts as a biotic primer, so if you stasis a target, then charge it you will generate a biotic explosion.

 

Although the reality is, her lift grenades are incredibly powerful (esp with the BC evo that provides %40 extra power damage)



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Because not a grill?  :P Or because he's sterile and not really a he? 

 

Why is he sterile? I mean, how do you know that?

 

Just a quick FYI on this point - Stasis counts as a biotic primer, so if you stasis a target, then charge it you will generate a biotic explosion.

 

Although the reality is, her lift grenades are incredibly powerful (esp with the BC evo that provides %40 extra power damage)

 

I'm aware of the BE with Statis + BC. I'm not aware of her potential as I've only used it a bit. I know the Krogan Shaman has that nade too.



#167
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Done another Kroguard run and timed two heavy melee takes almost the exact amount of time for charge to be ready again @ 200% weapon weight + with taking dmg reduction instead of faster recharge speed. So if your cooldown is 200% with Kroguard, more evidence that dmg reduction is the better choice.



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The back dodge, with lots of space behind? Sure. The side dodge sucks.


That's a personal preference though, I kind of like it myself, sure need to be a bit careful with it in tight spaces as the game can put you in auto hard cover when you least want it (like getting yourself stabbed by a phantom you didn't see).

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Why is he sterile? I mean, how do you know that?

 

 

I'm aware of the BE with Statis + BC. I'm not aware of her potential as I've only used it a bit. I know the Krogan Shaman has that nade too.

 

Because the game says that teleporting through walls leave the combatant sterile.  



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I'm aware of the BE with Statis + BC. I'm not aware of her potential as I've only used it a bit. I know the Krogan Shaman has that nade too.

 

Shaman actually doesn't have grenades.



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Shaman actually doesn't have grenades.

 

You're right. Confused it with the KSent.

 

Another thing related to hard cover: sometimes I start a sprint near a cover place and I got into cover instead of running.

Iss there a way to avoid this?



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re: Asari Vanguard Sniper

Over at the Me3Coop subReddit they have a collection of builds...the BbLoB...one of their regulars doesn't like BC/Vanguards and posted this stasis-sniper build...make what you will of it. (Personally, I'll pass)

https://www.reddit.c...anguard_sniper/

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You're right. Confused it with the KSent.
 
Another thing related to hard cover: sometimes I start a sprint near a cover place and I got into cover instead of running.
Iss there a way to avoid this?



You have "The OmniButton Blues".

As for what to do about it...well, I usually yell a lot and sometimes throw things, but it doesn't seem to help. Welcome to the club.

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re: Asari Vanguard Sniper

Over at the Me3Coop subReddit they have a collection of builds...the BbLoB...one of their regulars doesn't like BC/Vanguards and posted this stasis-sniper build...make what you will of it. (Personally, I'll pass)

https://www.reddit.c...anguard_sniper/

 

Tks, I'll check it.

 

You have "The OmniButton Blues".

As for what to do about it...well, I usually yell a lot and sometimes throw things, but it doesn't seem to help. Welcome to the club.

 

The OmniButton Blues?? Is that a name invented to this action (wrongly get into cover instead of running). Why this name?



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The OmniButton Blues?? Is that a name invented to this action (wrongly get into cover instead of running). Why this name?

 

The OmniButton... one button to rule them all. Sprint, use, dodge, revive, going into cover... all one button. The almighty Spacebar:

 

Space-Bar.jpg

 

On PC you can mod the keybindings and assign different buttons for those actions.


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