95% false.
80% inaccurate.
Why should we care about the villain?
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#252
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 06:44
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^OMG who the hell are all these characters you two are talking about? Go argue this in the DA forums or something.
Fact: Mass Effect is 95% better than Dragon Age
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#253
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 06:44
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Sardaukar and I are in resounding agreement about the Arishok, just as we are about most things
Yes dear.
Loghain does have irrational fears, but lots of people have lots of irrational fears.
It's all weighed in the balance and scale of things, Arishok's irrational fears seem to extend to the world as a whole and most of the people in it, not necessarily limited to just the society or organization Dragon Age calls "Orlais."
I'm not trying to argue one is better than the other. I think the Arishok works, and I have reservations about Loghain.
Loghain's fear of the French makes perfect sense, it's just that without knowing whether Ostagar was a lost cause and he was right to retreat I can't gauge whether that's a fear that pushes him to some bad decisions, or a fear that actually makes him deceive his king then leave him to die plunging the nation into a particularly stupid civil war. I'd find him more interesting if I knew that he was doing his best to deal with Cailain being stupid.
^OMG who the hell are all these characters you two are talking about? Go argue this in the DA forums or something.
We really need new info.
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#254
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 06:46
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#255
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 06:50
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Okay. Now I need to go watch an episode right now. Maybe the one with Space Pirates.
#256
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 06:52
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Okay. Now I need to go watch an episode right now. Maybe the one with Space Pirates.
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#257
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 06:59
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Speaking of which, ME:A should have space pirate villains.
As in career-wise, not aesthetically.
#258
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:01
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Speaking of which, ME:A should have space pirate villains.
As in career-wise, not aesthetically.
I kinda want to see more variety than that, ME2 had lots of them
Space dwarves on the other hand.....
#259
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:07
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I kinda want to see more variety than that, ME2 had lots of them
Space dwarves on the other hand.....
Those are called Volus (ie; Voli???)
#260
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:07
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I kinda want to see more variety than that, ME2 had lots of them
Space dwarves on the other hand.....
Lol, what makes a space dwarf though? You mean a species that mostly lives underground and does a lot of metalwork?
#261
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:08
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Those are called Volus (ie; Voli???)
the reference ----------->
you
#262
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:09
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Lol, what makes a space dwarf though? You mean a species that mostly lives underground and does a lot of metalwork?
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#263
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:10
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Space dwarves on the other hand.....
Eaten by rachni.
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#264
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:10
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I forgot about that! Oh my gosh, how embarrassing.
I really need to re-watch that episode.
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#265
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:16
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Speaking of which, ME:A should have space pirate villains.
As in career-wise, not aesthetically.
ME should have a space pirate protagonist.
Biower pls....
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#266
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:19
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Eaten by rachni.
I assume you mean the Tyranids, they're rachni in the same way the Trojan War was a playground fight
#267
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:24
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I assume you mean the Tyranids, they're rachni in the same way the Trojan War was a playground fight
Well yes, but I figure if you put Tyranids into ME you get rachni. Basically the same thing but they're less Gigery and sing now.
#269
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:41
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And another show that I skip....
color me shocked, astounded, dumbstruck, etc...
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#270
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:46
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color me shocked, astounded, dumbstruck, etc...
To be fair, I also do not have cable. But then, why would I?
#271
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:46
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To be fair, I also do not have cable. But then, why would I?
truly why would you sully yourself to exposed to such plebian entertainment
#272
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:54
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truly why would you sully yourself to exposed to such plebian entertainment
To save cash? While there are many good shows out there, there seems to be other sources to see them; villains included.
#273
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 07:56
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I don't have cable either and it has nothing to do with considering the entertainment low and more to with not all being interested in cable and therefore consider it an unnecessary expense to myself personally.
Also, a lot of shows can be subjective especially when it comes to humor. I personally loathe Family Guy and its humor while other people love the show and its writing.
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#274
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 08:05
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80% inaccurate.
I was kinda just being silly there... which well, I guess you are too. 
At any rate, I tried to convert our statements through these mathematical ratios and it came out as "IHOP is underrated," so I am going to politely set this equation and parts aside if you don't mind... as they no longer seem to make sense..
Well except about fundamentally DA > ME, which is, well 100% accurate.
#275
Posté 22 janvier 2016 - 08:14
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Yes dear.
I'm not trying to argue one is better than the other. I think the Arishok works, and I have reservations about Loghain.
Loghain's fear of the French makes perfect sense, it's just that without knowing whether Ostagar was a lost cause and he was right to retreat I can't gauge whether that's a fear that pushes him to some bad decisions, or a fear that actually makes him deceive his king then leave him to die plunging the nation into a particularly stupid civil war. I'd find him more interesting if I knew that he was doing his best to deal with Cailain being stupid.
Ostagar seemed like an extremely defensive position, ideal for combating the Blight, but they also seemed vastly outnumbered and it rarely makes sense in those instances to do anything other than reform.
It honestly probably wasn't even the best idea to retreat, all things considered, but the game is pretty vague on this, I think the point is simply that it arguably was which makes it a compelling point. The ogres and darkspawn were slaughtering forces and had even basically killed Cailan seconds after the tower was lit, if I'm not mistaken, which meant that Loghain's order to retreat came precisely between before the tower being lit (when he was supposed to be waiting, and a lot of damage was already done) and the tower being lit at which point or very simultaneous with that the forces at Ostagar were overrunning Cailan and the other warriors (when it was probably too late to change the outcome of the battle).
My sense is decidedly one way or another Cailan was toast, even if Loghain had attacked at the moment of the signal tower lighting.
In other words, he would of been more or less charging into a battle that was already over.
My greater sense was they were trying to play Cailan was an irrational embracer of tales of heroism, and consequently a problem in a situation requiring actual heroism...
Most of the problems with Loghain seem to come after that Ostagar..
