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[Bayonet Hipshot]

Blood magic is a tool in the same way morphine and nuclear technology are tools. They can be used for good or evil purposes.

[ShadowLordXII]

The Dark Ritual isn't blood magic.  Nor in fact is the Joining.  Neither of them require a blood magician to perform them.  Not everything someone does with blood is blood magic.

 

Wrong. Morrigan tells you that the Dark Ritual is a form of blood magic.

 

Gaider himself evidently confirmed that the Joining is also a form of blood magic.

 

Nuff said.

[BansheeOwnage]

Wrong. Morrigan tells you that the Dark Ritual is a form of blood magic.

 

Gaider himself evidently confirmed that the Joining is also a form of blood magic.

 

Nuff said.

That may be true, but I still think it's dumb, and doesn't really make sense. It's like saying anything "dark" is blood magic. I think a better definition would be magic powered by life-force.

[The Baconer]

That may be true, but I still think it's dumb, and doesn't really make sense. It's like saying anything "dark" is blood magic. I think a better definition would be magic powered by life-force.

 

To be fair, the Dark Ritual is particularly concerned with life-force, though what it is being "powered" by isn't clear. 

[Illegitimus]

Wrong. Morrigan tells you that the Dark Ritual is a form of blood magic.

 

 

No she doesn't.  She says "some would call it blood magic".  But since no throats were cut in the making of this OGB, I am not numbered among those "some".  Nor do I agree with what you report Gaider to have said.  The Joining is not blood magic because it is not even a spell.  

[German Soldier]

Blood magic is a tool in the same way morphine and nuclear technology are tools. They can be used for good or evil purposes.

Blood magic has the intrinsic quality to feed on pain and it twist the behaviour of their user after a while,i never met a sane blood mage.

 

That may be true, but I still think it's dumb, and doesn't really make sense. It's like saying anything "dark" is blood magic. I think a better definition would be magic powered by life-force.

The dark component is it because it involve the taint not only blood magic.

 

No she doesn't.  She says "some would call it blood magic".  But since no throats were cut in the making of this OGB, I am not numbered among those "some".  Nor do I agree with what you report Gaider to have said.  The Joining is not blood magic because it is not even a spell.  

Is blood magic,the blood of the child is used to attract the archdemon soul like a beacon and force it to enter into it against his will.

I rejected such a ritual,not only she asked to me to do blood magic but also to save the old god....no thanks he is better dead.

[German Soldier]

And lastly:

 

Blood magic can lead to great sex.

I kicked Morrigan to the Frost back mountains when she proposed that,that was my answer for her.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Honestly i don't remember the name of so many sane blood mages.

Most of them were insane and had clearly problems with their own behaviour.

[Catilina]

[Aren]

Aside from the protagonists nobody was able to use blood magic to do only good, without any type of repercussion.

[Catilina]

Aside from the protagonists nobody was able to use blood magic to do only good, without any type of repercussion.

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Just look at the background of the picture

[TevinterSupremacist]

My blood my rules.

I can spill it to perform spells.

What the outcome of the spells is should be judged on its own, just like a fireball's outcome or a sword's is.

 

Anything else is false chantry propaganda.

[myahele]

The thing with blood magic is that the more suffering/pain inflicted the better the spell will become. While various magic can do the same, it's blood magic that encourages torture of the victims for the boost.

 

Unless we find out that it was just propaganda the amount of pain inflicted is proportional to how much boost the user will get.

[Catilina]

My blood my rules.

I can spill it to perform spells.

What the outcome of the spells is should be judged on its own, just like a fireball's outcome or a sword's is.

 

Anything else is false chantry propaganda.

Magic is magic, but the blood magic a little bit more dangerous than others. But the one who knows it, will able to use it. Maybe. Maybe not.

Not only the chantry says this, the keepers too...

[ModernAcademic]

The Dark Ritual isn't blood magic.  Nor in fact is the Joining.  Neither of them require a blood magician to perform them.  Not everything someone does with blood is blood magic.

 

Except that both are blood magic because they involve performing a magic rite. In which blood is the key element, without which the magic doesn't take place.

 

Therefore, it's blood magic.

[KaiserShep]

Offensive spells take lives when used. Blood magic spells take lives in order to be used, which will either proceed to end more or at least ruin them as victims of somebody's demonic dealing.

Isn't the point of offensive spells to take lives? What if a bloodmage is using the enemies' lives? I'd say it's an effective use of the mage's power.

[Illegitimus]

 

 

Is blood magic,the blood of the child is used to attract the archdemon soul like a beacon and force it to enter into it against his will.

 

 

 

Not literally no.  Nobody cuts the "child" and spills its blood to attract the soul.  Nor is the the soul so much forced as tricked.  The child doesn't even have any blood at that point.  

[Qun00]

It doesn't, but if you're not going to use blood magic to its fullest potential, why use it at all?

Ohh, it does.

At 3:13

http://youtu.be/p4GVM9TTEqo

Blood magic is directly connected to demons, even in its most basic form.

[Deanna Troy]

Mages who perform repulsive acts like human sacrifices and dealing with demons aren't "misusing" this tool. Such things are and will always be part of regular blood magic. Merril only managed to use it ethically because she avoided going beyond the basics.

"Repulsive acts?" Seriously? There is nothing repulsive in it. But it is ok for you to think they are, it is just absurd to think everybody should agree with you.

Human sacrifice is not necessary, however, I'd like to point how hypocritical it is to say human sacrifice is repulsive when with the blood your characters take from enemies in the first few hours of any DA game you could probably use blood magic for 10 lifetimes.

[BansheeOwnage]

"Repulsive acts?" Seriously? There is nothing repulsive in it. But it is ok for you to think they are, it is just absurd to think everybody should agree with you.

Human sacrifice is not necessary, however, I'd like to point how hypocritical it is to say human sacrifice is repulsive when with the blood your characters take from enemies in the first few hours of any DA game you could probably use blood magic for 10 lifetimes.

Defeating enemies in combat =/= ritual sacrifice.

[German Soldier]

Not literally no. Nobody cuts the "child" and spills its blood to attract the soul. Nor is the the soul so much forced as tricked. The child doesn't even have any blood at that point.

The Dark ritual is an advanced spell of blood magic, which use the taint and the blood of the fetus to force the archdemon soul to jump into it even at medium great distance from where the archdemon was killed.
Sorry to have disrupted your headcanon about it but that what the dark ritual is and i consider it to be dark and evil as most spell based on blood magic..
Two souls who share the same body is not "normal" to me.

[Qun00]

"Repulsive acts?" Seriously? There is nothing repulsive in it. But it is ok for you to think they are, it is just absurd to think everybody should agree with you.
Human sacrifice is not necessary, however, I'd like to point how hypocritical it is to say human sacrifice is repulsive when with the blood your characters take from enemies in the first few hours of any DA game you could probably use blood magic for 10 lifetimes.

Your enemies actually chose to engage in a fight to the death.

Anyway, I just wish people would understand the value of the middle ground. You guys want to be open-minded. I get it. But the extremes aren't the answer.

One can overlook much with the "Everything is acceptable. Everything is okay" mindset.

[The Baconer]

Defeating enemies in combat =/= ritual sacrifice.

 

Defeating enemies in combat can the engine of ritual sacrifice. Then everyone wins :>

[thats1evildude]

But it doesn't actually work like that.

The operative word here is "sacrifice." You have to give up something for the magic to work.

[The Baconer]

But it doesn't actually work like that.

 

There is no mechanic or literature that prevents it from working like that. 

 

 

The operative word here is "sacrifice." You have to give up something for the magic to work.

 

Likewise, there is no mechanic or literature that forces it to work like that. One can always force someone else to give up something for the caster, which is often how it is utilized. Relieving someone of their blood on the battlefield is as good a sacrifice as any other.