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[ioannisdenton]

Tresspasser as the ending to DAI really elevates it. Imagine witcher 3 with the climax (actually it has 3 climaxes , it so redicoulsy good) it would be a lesser game.
Play Trespasser - be that man

[Yggdrasil]

I would recommend you give Inquisition a try, but then I'm a Dragon Age zealot.  If you're into lore and context, the Dragon Age wiki is an excellent resource to catch you up on stuff you've missed from previous games, and they do a phenomenal job at hiding spoilers behind spoiler tags.  (I'm looking at you, Fallout wiki!)

 

Combat can get a little repetitive, but then I've never really played any game where it didn't start to get that way eventually.  I've always enjoyed playing as a mage in Dragon Age games, and it gives you some leeway in how you want to develop your spell abilities.  (For example, supportive vs. damage dealer)  The Knight Enchanter specialization for mages lets you even fold in some melee type skills.

 

If you decide to take the plunge, feel free to share your impressions on the forums.

[ESTAQ99]

I would recommend you give Inquisition a try, but then I'm a Dragon Age zealot.  If you're into lore and context, the Dragon Age wiki is an excellent resource to catch you up on stuff you've missed from previous games, and they do a phenomenal job at hiding spoilers behind spoiler tags.  (I'm looking at you, Fallout wiki!)

 

Combat can get a little repetitive, but then I've never really played any game where it didn't start to get that way eventually.  I've always enjoyed playing as a mage in Dragon Age games, and it gives you some leeway in how you want to develop your spell abilities.  (For example, supportive vs. damage dealer)  The Knight Enchanter specialization for mages lets you even fold in some melee type skills.

 

If you decide to take the plunge, feel free to share your impressions on the forums.

 

 

If you have already played The Witcher 3, I'm afraid you are set for a huge disappointment playing DAI. 

[Scofield]

I like it but dont like souls or witcher

[Kabraxal]

If you have already played The Witcher 3, I'm afraid you are set for a huge disappointment playing DAI.

Not necessarily. Plenty of people found TW3 the lesser game... I wish people would stop acting like TW3 is some holy messiah of gaming that all other games will pale in comparison.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

I would recommend you give Inquisition a try, but then I'm a Dragon Age zealot.  If you're into lore and context, the Dragon Age wiki is an excellent resource to catch you up on stuff you've missed from previous games, and they do a phenomenal job at hiding spoilers behind spoiler tags.  (I'm looking at you, Fallout wiki!)

 

Combat can get a little repetitive, but then I've never really played any game where it didn't start to get that way eventually.  I've always enjoyed playing as a mage in Dragon Age games, and it gives you some leeway in how you want to develop your spell abilities.  (For example, supportive vs. damage dealer)  The Knight Enchanter specialization for mages lets you even fold in some melee type skills.

 

If you decide to take the plunge, feel free to share your impressions on the forums.

Yes I have decided to try DAI but not as of right now since I'm having my exams here. I will try it later on though, from all the inputs I've received, it does seem like something that should be at least tried out. I usually keep an open mind so I might end up liking it after all from what I've heard. Also Dark souls 3 is coming out only on april so I might have time to try out DA: O too perhaps.

 

 

Not necessarily. Plenty of people found TW3 the lesser game... I wish people would stop acting like TW3 is some holy messiah of gaming that all other games will pale in comparison.

Well that's just people's opinions, people are bound to compare games of similar settings and the witcher 3 is generally found to be an outstanding game in that genre. 

[Kabraxal]

Yes I have decided to try DAI but not as of right now since I'm having my exams here. I will try it later on though, from all the inputs I've received, it does seem like something that should be at least tried out. I usually keep an open mind so I might end up liking it after all from what I've heard. Also Dark souls 3 is coming out only on april so I might have time to try out DA: O too perhaps.


Well that's just people's opinions, people are bound to compare games of similar settings and the witcher 3 is generally found to be an outstanding game in that genre.

The issue I take is that so many act as if it is some objective reality that TW3 is superior or the greatest RPG ever. I've seen it with constant comparisons to DA, Fallout, ES games... And I'm sick of it. Especially when all the praise is for one outstanding sidequest that hides all the bloody filler and repetitive quests in TW3.

It was a good game. But I know many who will never replay it because it doesn't do some things as well as a Bioware or Bethesda game. The Witcher fanbase has become the Souls fanbase in so many ways... Overbearing and obnoxious. I feel sorry for the rational and nice fans in those fanbases. Their vocal minority really paints them in a horrible light.

[ESTAQ99]

Not necessarily. Plenty of people found TW3 the lesser game... I wish people would stop acting like TW3 is some holy messiah of gaming that all other games will pale in comparison.

 

Plenty of people........mmh......I don't think so. Maybe a tiny amount of DAI zealots but if you check every thread on this forum (spoilers and no spoilers), you will find that the overwhelming majority  of people who have played both games, conceded  that TW3 is a highly superior game when compared to DAI.

 

Personally, I don't know what happened with DAI and why it ended up been so inferior, in so many ways, than most of hyped players were expecting (included myself). They had plenty of time to develop, big budget, talented people and still

 

- AI is trash (it won't listen to any directions).

 

- Tactical view is worthless.

 

- Entire game is clearly made for consoles in every way. They didn't even try to optimize for PC.

 

- Combat is awful and your range companions suffer from a permanent malee complex. Companion's AI are even more stupid and useless on harder difficulties. So constant babysitting is required which makes fights more frustrating (I should say annoying) than they should be. Commands cancel each other out, and characters generally won't perform the actions you specify.

 

- Skill trees are a joke. 

 

- The most uninspired, endless number of fetch quests.....Everywhere......all the time.

 

- Main plot is awfully disconnected. The worst part of the game is the terrible pacing in the story.

 

- Main villain is bland and mostly absent throughout the game and the final battle feels rushed as hell.

 

- DA:I was a buggy feast at launch....and it still keeps being buggy and glitchy.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

The issue I take is that so many act as if it is some objective reality that TW3 is superior or the greatest RPG ever. I've seen it with constant comparisons to DA, Fallout, ES games... And I'm sick of it. Especially when all the praise is for one outstanding sidequest that hides all the bloody filler and repetitive quests in TW3.

It was a good game. But I know many who will never replay it because it doesn't do some things as well as a Bioware or Bethesda game. The Witcher fanbase has become the Souls fanbase in so many ways... Overbearing and obnoxious. I feel sorry for the rational and nice fans in those fanbases. Their vocal minority really paints them in a horrible light.

Haha well I'm somewhat of a fan of both TW3 and the souls so I dunno what that makes me...But I'm sorry you feel that way. But there's probably a reason why most people feel that way and I don't think it's because all of them are fanboys of these games. Rather I would say it's because the difference in standards between these games and titles like Fallout or Elder scrolls are quite easily evident to them. 

              Of course it's all subjective but then again so are the movies and that doesn't stop people from comparing and ranking them do they! I understand that you probably like the DA series a lot but to assume that everyone else should have the same view as yourself on these matters and to call them obnoxious if otherwise is somewhat silly. Have you had that many bad interactions with the witcher and souls fans to classify the majority of them as you described? I highly doubt it as my own personal experience says otherwise.

[Kabraxal]

Plenty of people........mmh......I don't think so. Maybe a tiny amount of DAI zealots but if you check every thread on this forum (spoilers and no spoilers), you will find that the overwhelming majority of people who have played both games, conceded that TW3 is a highly superior game when compared to DAI.

Personally, I don't know what happened with DAI and why it ended up been so inferior, in so many ways, than most of hyped players were expecting (included myself). They had plenty of time to develop, big budget, talented people and still

- AI is trash (it won't listen to any directions).

- Tactical view is worthless.

- Entire game is clearly made for consoles in every way. They didn't even try to optimize for PC.

- Combat is awful and your range companions suffer from a permanent malee complex. Companion's AI are even more stupid and useless on harder difficulties. So constant babysitting is required which makes fights more frustrating (I should say annoying) than they should be. Commands cancel each other out, and characters generally won't perform the actions you specify.

- Skill trees are a joke.

- The most uninspired, endless number of fetch quests.....Everywhere......all the time.

- Main plot is awfully disconnected. The worst part of the game is the terrible pacing in the story.

- Main villain is bland and mostly absent throughout the game and the final battle feels rushed as hell.

- DA:I was a buggy feast at launch....and it still keeps being buggy and glitchy.

And the beginning of that post is exactly the crap I'm sick of. But to those points... Every single one of those negatives can be turned on TW3.

The main story was dull and poorly paced. Combat was atrocious. The main villains were nothing but plot devices with no depth. Outside of one amazing side quest the quests are repetitive filler. The game was buggier than DA. Hell the game was buggier than Fallout... I can continue with a long list as to why that overrated game is not objectively superior.

I am so tired of this BS "TW3 will ruin other games!" mentality. It just isn't true. The blinders people put on to the faults in the game simply because they enjoy the dark fantasy cliches is just frustrating... Just admit you like the cliches and can forgive some of those faults while others will not.

[ESTAQ99]

And the beginning of that post is exactly the crap I'm sick of. But to those points... Every single one of those negatives can be turned on TW3.

The main story was dull and poorly paced. Combat was atrocious. The main villains were nothing but plot devices with no depth. Outside of one amazing side quest the quests are repetitive filler. The game was buggier than DA. Hell the game was buggier than Fallout... I can continue with a long list as to why that overrated game is not objectively superior.

I am so tired of this BS "TW3 will ruin other games!" mentality. It just isn't true. The blinders people put on to the faults in the game simply because they enjoy the dark fantasy cliches is just frustrating... Just admit you like the cliches and can forgive some of those faults while others will not.

 

 

I love your posts.

[AFA]

The Euros and Japanese have really closed the RPG gap in recent years on American developers, which is good for us RPG fans in general. Some of it is due to Bethesda and Bioware losing ground, but they are making a lot of quality games in Europe and Asia.

[Frenrihr]

Hahaha, what a load of crap this topic and posts.

 

TC, just play the damn game but i will warn you, this game is nothing like TW3 or DS games, specially in combat... AT ALL, so if you are expecting that... well never touch this series.

 

Now... a lot of ****** fanboys in here im not even going to quote you personaly because you will know to whom im refering when you read your BS anihilated by what i said...

 

TW3 is better in many aspects than DA:I, in MANY... the game has a much better sidecontent and truly shines at what it is supposed to be: a story driven game, every sidequest has some kind of story behind it, its not just fetch me  this, fetch me  that, collect this crap, get that other crap... its not a ****** oflline MMORPG like DA:I is... so as a whole and the excuse of the game is to be story driven game and it delivers what it is suppsoed to deliver UNLIKE DA:I which has a reaaaally short main story, with little to no consequences AND crap sidecontent for a story driven game, DA:O is factually still the better of the series overall but in this matter mostly. TW3 on the other hand has a crap ending, im talking about the stupid image slideshow you get to see at the ending which is crap knowing its the last witcher game i dont even know how they couldnt make ****** animations that showed us at least Geralt with his love interest living their last years peacefully or something... lazy as ****, yeah inquisition has the same **** but we know this is not the last game... besides the last DLC hopefully fixes that (havent played it yet).

 

TC says he dosent want button mashing... well kid... you were doing that same **** in TW3 with rolling spamming your way to victory, cheesy combat, and dont even try it kid, i finished it in Death march difficulty i know what im talking about, the combat in TW3 is not trash... but is not like you are making it out to be, its pretty meh.

 

Dark souls combat is better yes, i finished both, but the original was better dont ****** ask me for specifics because i dont remember, its a DAMN too long time since i played them, i only know that DS "1" was better than 2 in many ways.

 

Now what the **** are you even on to son? DS having better story than any of the games mentioned here? (TW series and DA series?) are you mental kid?, DS has no fuckin story kid GET OVER IT, jesus this stupid DS fanboys are comical, yeah dude LORE =/= STORY, like seriously how many fcuking choices did you make in that game?, light or dont a bonfire?, GTFO with that, im not saying DS games suck but stop your BS about the story when WE people talk about the story in games and the lack of it in DS you KNOW what we MEAN, STOP PRETENDING.

 

And, LOOOOL at the guy saying he loves consequences in games with his lame ass The Walking dead from telltale game picture on its profile, LIKE THE ****** IRONY!!!!, trash games with linear story with the ilussion of choice, GTFO here with that, no one can take you seriously kid, stop it.

 

And dude, the fanboy that is fighting this The waliking dead picture guy, you just hide behind the "this is no spoiler forum" JUST ADMIT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, DA:I only got GOTY because EA paid for it and because that year was crap for games, true GOTY of that year is Divinity Original Sin.

 

All put in place now, enjoy.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Well that's just people's opinions, people are bound to compare games of similar settings and the witcher 3 is generally found to be an outstanding game in that genre. 

With a set protagonist and mandatory action combat, I know without playing it that I couldn't stand it.

 

For me, DAI is one of the best games released in years.

- Tactical view is worthless.

 

- Combat is awful and your range companions suffer from a permanent malee complex. Companion's AI are even more stupid and useless on harder difficulties. So constant babysitting is required which makes fights more frustrating (I should say annoying) than they should be. Commands cancel each other out, and characters generally won't perform the actions you specify.

The party control could be better, but the tactical camera is terrific.

 

Going back to DAO now, I find the camera there really limited because it can't roam and look forward at the same time.  The only low-angle camera is the chase camera, while DAI gives a proper free-roaming camera in the style of the Total War series.  It's a great camera.

 

As for the fetch quests, just don't do them.  There's no shortage or quests in the game; people seem to focus on those infinitely respawning requisition quests, and I don't understand why.

 

Personally, I like those quests, because they demonstrate how arbitrary completionism is.

[Frenrihr]

With a set protagonist and mandatory action combat, I know without playing it that I couldn't stand it.

 

For me, DAI is one of the best games released in years.

The party control could be better, but the tactical camera is terrific.

 

Going back to DAO now, I find the camera there really limited because it can't roam and look forward at the same time.  The only low-angle camera is the chase camera, while DAI gives a proper free-roaming camera in the style of the Total War series.  It's a great camera.

 

As for the fetch quests, just don't do them.  There's no shortage or quests in the game; people seem to focus on those infinitely respawning requisition quests, and I don't understand why.

 

Personally, I like those quests, because they demonstrate how arbitrary completionism is.

 

[Sylvius the Mad]

I wasn't joking.

[Artona]

I didn't finish Witcher 3 (won't untill I buy better computer), but as for Dark Souls, I think that Inquisition is inferior in atmosphere, design and combat mechanics. It's still helluva fun to play though.

[Frenrihr]

I wasn't joking.

 

[Sylvius the Mad]

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I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

[tanerb123]

Unfortunately both games are superior to DA:I

[Frenrihr]

I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

 

[Kabraxal]

Edit: not even worth it.

[AlanC9]

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Seriously, dude, you're not making any sense. Or is that the point?

[Teabaggin Krogan]

Hahaha, what a load of crap this topic and posts.

 

TC, just play the damn game but i will warn you, this game is nothing like TW3 or DS games, specially in combat... AT ALL, so if you are expecting that... well never touch this series.

 

Now... a lot of ****** fanboys in here im not even going to quote you personaly because you will know to whom im refering when you read your BS anihilated by what i said...

 

TW3 is better in many aspects than DA:I, in MANY... the game has a much better sidecontent and truly shines at what it is supposed to be: a story driven game, every sidequest has some kind of story behind it, its not just fetch me  this, fetch me  that, collect this crap, get that other crap... its not a ****** oflline MMORPG like DA:I is... so as a whole and the excuse of the game is to be story driven game and it delivers what it is suppsoed to deliver UNLIKE DA:I which has a reaaaally short main story, with little to no consequences AND crap sidecontent for a story driven game, DA:O is factually still the better of the series overall but in this matter mostly. TW3 on the other hand has a crap ending, im talking about the stupid image slideshow you get to see at the ending which is crap knowing its the last witcher game i dont even know how they couldnt make ****** animations that showed us at least Geralt with his love interest living their last years peacefully or something... lazy as ****, yeah inquisition has the same **** but we know this is not the last game... besides the last DLC hopefully fixes that (havent played it yet).

 

TC says he dosent want button mashing... well kid... you were doing that same **** in TW3 with rolling spamming your way to victory, cheesy combat, and dont even try it kid, i finished it in Death march difficulty i know what im talking about, the combat in TW3 is not trash... but is not like you are making it out to be, its pretty meh.

 

Dark souls combat is better yes, i finished both, but the original was better dont ****** ask me for specifics because i dont remember, its a DAMN too long time since i played them, i only know that DS "1" was better than 2 in many ways.

 

Now what the **** are you even on to son? DS having better story than any of the games mentioned here? (TW series and DA series?) are you mental kid?, DS has no fuckin story kid GET OVER IT, jesus this stupid DS fanboys are comical, yeah dude LORE =/= STORY, like seriously how many fcuking choices did you make in that game?, light or dont a bonfire?, GTFO with that, im not saying DS games suck but stop your BS about the story when WE people talk about the story in games and the lack of it in DS you KNOW what we MEAN, STOP PRETENDING.

 

And, LOOOOL at the guy saying he loves consequences in games with his lame ass The Walking dead from telltale game picture on its profile, LIKE THE ****** IRONY!!!!, trash games with linear story with the ilussion of choice, GTFO here with that, no one can take you seriously kid, stop it.

 

And dude, the fanboy that is fighting this The waliking dead picture guy, you just hide behind the "this is no spoiler forum" JUST ADMIT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, DA:I only got GOTY because EA paid for it and because that year was crap for games, true GOTY of that year is Divinity Original Sin.

 

All put in place now, enjoy.

Hey now, you don't need to be attacking people just for having an opinion. I really don't think you were annihilating a lot of arguments there by dealing in absolutes yourself.

         Sure I agree with a lot of points you made about the witcher about the endings and other people have already mentioned about the story aspects of DA, it's faults as well as more good points. But calling other people stupid and using all caps makes you seem like a twelve year old rather than the astute debating champion you perhaps picture yourself to be. Neither are ad hominem attacks gonna help validate your points.

         

            Oh and please, Deathmarch in TW3 is ****** easy to be honest and no I wasn't spamming the roll like an idiot. You can quite easily fight anything in game with just sidestepping the attacks and countering. In fact it was so easy that I had to use non optimal gear and not upgrade my signs fully to make it even worth a fight.

 

As for you statements on DS1 and 2, I'm laughing here mate! Really, are you sure you're not repeating what you overheard all the cool kids say over at reddit? Ds2 had better 8 directional rolling, more fluid combat and movement and is considered the better game over DS1 as far as game mechanics go at least by people who know what they're talking about. I would ****** know since I have played both and I've done huge amount of pvp and against good players. So please, next time do your ****** research first m9.

[Teabaggin Krogan]

With a set protagonist and mandatory action combat, I know without playing it that I couldn't stand it.

 

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I didn't mind that tbh, Geralt isn't all that bad and as for the combat, you can tone down the difficulty to story mode which makes it much easier. I dislike infinite fetching quests though, like extra quests are good and all but mostly I couldn't really care about what happened to some random npc's goat.