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[Asdrubael Vect]

Also, yet another disgusting pairing with her and Sera. 

 disgusting, terrible and not understandable

[sandalisthemaker]

What's disgusting about Dagna and Sera? I think they're cute together.

 

I would actually like to see them interact.  Their personalities would mesh quite well IMO.  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What's disgusting about Dagna and Sera? I think they're cute together.

How can you think that, when we literally never see them together? 

[vertigomez]

I would actually like to see them interact.  Their personalities mesh quite well IMO.

I think so! An un-elfy elf and a dwarf who loves magic. I tend to romance Sera, but if she can't find happiness with my Inky I'm glad she finds it with someone as sweet as Dagna.

[vertigomez]

How can you think that, when we literally never see them together?

Epilogue slides and Sera's journal, and I think their personalities work well together. How can you say they're disgusting for the same reasons?

[Asdrubael Vect]

How can you think that, when we literally never see them together? 

and they have nothing common and different tastes as opinions on many matters and Sera is not a close for what Dagna was said in DAO

 

how the hell this was even happened and where. why....this was stupid. really stupid and not make sense its like devs just cut her from being romance option for many players in future

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Epilogue slides and Sera's journal, and I think their personalities work well together. How can you say they're disgusting for the same reasons?

That's not seeing them together. 

As for how I can say it's disgusting, in a word: Sera. 

In more than one word: I find a lot of the "nice, decent person falls in love with a mean, indecent person whom corrupts them" stories disgusting. And that's exactly what'll happen. Want proof? Just look at what you have to do to be in a relationship with Sera: be a bully and pull pranks on your comrades. Plus they have almost nothing in common, and hold very differing views on things like magic, which Sera hates. And if you are Dalish, we know how Sera will respond in the relationship if you support something she hates: she gives you the ultimatum of "Think I'm right and you're wrong, or we're done."

[vertigomez]

That's not seeing them together.

Sure it is.

As for how I can say it's disgusting, in a word: Sera.
In more than one word: I find a lot of the "nice, decent person falls in love with a mean, indecent person whom corrupts them" stories disgusting. And that's exactly what'll happen. Want proof? Just look at what you have to do to be in a relationship with Sera: be a bully and pull pranks on your comrades.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on every level about Sera. Because... nope.

[Witch Cocktor]

That's not seeing them together. 

As for how I can say it's disgusting, in a word: Sera. 

In more than one word: I find a lot of the "nice, decent person falls in love with a mean, indecent person whom corrupts them" stories disgusting. And that's exactly what'll happen. Want proof? Just look at what you have to do to be in a relationship with Sera: be a bully and pull pranks on your comrades. 

Sera is not indecent or mean...

[Boost32]

I would like Vivienne as a romance, I would trade any DAI romance with the exception of Cassandra.

[vertigomez]

Also FWIW, Sera has no problem with magic that comes out of a bottle or rune. It's the Fade/unreality/demony bits that freak her out, as she says in banter with Dorian.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Sure it is.


I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on every level about Sera. Because... nope.

No, it's not. No more than seeing a dictator being nice to his subjects in a photo is seeing them being a good person and leader. 

 

Guess so. I know I'm right, but you're free to believe whatever you want. 

 

Sera is not indecent or mean...

This the same girl who makes tons of crude jokes about people even to their faces and straight up murders people? Sounds indecent and mean to me. 

[BansheeOwnage]

I'd cut Sera > : D And replace her with... basically anyone. Because basically anyone would be better. And I suppose I could cut Blackwall for ungated Cullen too, even though I have no personal stake in the matter. Except that I find Blackwall almost as bad as Sera.

 

Edit: Blackwall for Krem would be cool too.

[Asdrubael Vect]

We have a lot of words and flirt option with Dagna in DAO.....Sera does not fit for what Dagna was said

[vertigomez]

No, it's not. No more than seeing a dictator being nice to his subjects in a photo is seeing them being a good person and leader.
 
Guess so. I know I'm right, but you're free to believe whatever you want.

Welp, have fun with that righteousness I guess.

[Asdrubael Vect]

 Except that I find Blackwall almost as bad as Sera.

And he as Sera was nothing to Inquisition and no more than some from many simple agents who for no reason became our companion

[ArcadiaGrey]

I have a lot of faith in the Bioware writing team, and I'm sure they haven't done anything they didn't mean to do. After all, Solas was written as a sympathetic character and there are still many Solas fans who did not romance him - who like him because they find him intriguing, or who sympathise with him because he raised issues that resonated with them. That was no accident, he was never meant to be a simple black-or-white antagonist.

 

I think the Solas romance was a brilliant addition to show the complex nature of the being we're dealing with. Yes, I'm biaised - but then so is everyone else on this issue, including those who are against him.

 

So, anyway... back to the original question, I probably wouldn't want any romances cut. I personally do not see the relevance of the IB and Cullen romances myself, but I can appreciate that many people enjoy them, so I think that's valuable in itself.

 

That's my favourite thing about Solas.  An antagonist who is truly understandable and sympathetic.   He didn't do what he did out of greed, but in an effort to fix the world.  Shades of grey instead of a big bad guy who's always evil like Cory.  I really hope that they can make a story that fits a Solas romancing IQ, it's a romance I'm yet to do but I'm looking forward to seeing the game through Dalish eyes.

[ArcadiaGrey]

What's disgusting about Dagna and Sera? I think they're cute together.

 

Ikr, they're adorable.  Complete 'awww' moment when I read Sera's diary and saw the epilogue of Trespasser.

[Witch Cocktor]

This the same girl who makes tons of crude jokes about people even to their faces and straight up murders people? Sounds indecent and mean to me. 

Crude jokes are just that, jokes. And the people who don't enjoy Sera's behavior and attitude are in the minority.

Dorian? They get along well.

Varric? They get along well.

Iron Bull? They get along well.

Blackwall? They get along well.

Cassandra? They get along well, mostly.

Cole? Sera doesn't like demons, but Cole doesn't seem to care, he still wants to help her.

 

The only two that she doesn't get along well with are Vivienne and Solas. Vivienne for being a stuck up and thinks Sera is below her, and Solas for their ideologies clashing hard. 

 

Who in this series doesn't straight up murder people anyway? This brings me back to this dialogue between Cassandra and Sera:

 

Sera: I take back. And you kill people.

Cassandra: True, but.. only those I must.

Sera: Ones who deserve it? Right, we're REAL different.

 

She has her motives, and she has her own definition of what's right and what's wrong. And I have yet to see her really be that monstrous as you claim her to be.

And when it comes to pranks, you do realize that there's an Archdemon out there, trying to **** **** up? I doubt a few light-hearted pranks will hurt anyones feelings, if anything, it'll lighten the mood, make people realize that life is worth fighting for, if only to live in a time where a few pranks would be the ultimate mood destroyer, instead of a goddamn archdemon knocking on your door trying to kill you.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Crude jokes are just that, jokes. And the people who don't enjoy Sera's behavior and attitude are in the minority.

And when it comes to pranks, you do realize that there's an Archdemon out there, trying to **** **** up? I doubt a few light-hearted pranks will hurt anyones feelings, if anything, it'll lighten the mood, make people realize that life is worth fighting for, if only to live in a time where a few pranks would be the ultimate mood destroyer, instead of a goddamn archdemon knocking on your door trying to kill you.

Yeah we're going to have to stop now since we'll never agree with you outright supporting bullies with the "They were just teasing" defense. What may be just jokes for the person making them can be much worse than just that for the person receiving them. I point you to all the lives that were ruined and/or ended by such 'jokes'.

 

Who in this series doesn't straight up murder people anyway?

Josephine. Dagna. Any number of NPC characters. 

[Xilizhra]

Yeah we're going to have to stop now since we'll never agree with you outright supporting bullies with the "They were just teasing" defense. What may be just jokes for the person making them can be much worse than just that for the person receiving them. I point you to all the lives that were ruined and/or ended by such 'jokes'.

The intent behind the pranks on Cullen and Josephine was actually to raise the morale of their subordinates. Which is the only reason I bothered doing them.

 

 

Josephine. Dagna. Any number of NPC characters. 

Actually, Dagna does have her own body count, as one can see in certain operations.

[Witch Cocktor]

Yeah we're going to have to stop now since we'll never agree with you outright supporting bullies with the "They were just teasing" defense. What may be just jokes for the person making them can be much worse than just that for the person receiving them. I point you to all the lives that were ruined and/or ended by such 'jokes'.

 

Josephine. Dagna. Any number of NPC characters. 

I was bullied my whole life. I see nothing about Sera that would classify her as a bully.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The intent behind the pranks on Cullen and Josephine was actually to raise the morale of their subordinates. Which is the only reason I bothered doing them.

I was bullied my whole life. I see nothing about Sera that would classify her as a bully.

One of the main intents behind bullies is to have fun, or raise morale, with their friends at another person's expense. What Sera did was bullying. 

 

Actually, Dagna does have her own body count, as one can see in certain operations.

Which operations?

[Abyss108]

I think Cullen and Josephine will survive having a prank played on them by a friend once...    Friends are allowed to joke around with each other...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think Cullen and Josephine will survive having a prank played on them by a friend once...    Friends are allowed to joke around with each other...

One who humiliates or degrades you is not a friend.