Romance and gender in mass effect trilogy
#1
Posté 17 janvier 2016 - 05:01
#2
Posté 17 janvier 2016 - 05:41
#3
Posté 17 janvier 2016 - 05:43
I've heard this discussion plenty, and I think it's... interesting.
My personal opinion? I'm glad not everyone is romanceable and not every option can be romanced by both genders... and I say that even when it's frustrating.
Basically, the two approaches are that everything revolves around the player and every character is malleable to your character, including sexual preference; the other approach is that these characters are just as compelling as the player character, with their own quirks and preferences... and I simply prefer the latter approach.
It's just like how my FemShep can't romance Vega, and how I was surprised when Samara REBUFFED my advances. And no matter how charming Traynor is, she's just not going to go for my MaleShep, no matter how close they are. It's something where the characters I like have their OWN preferences, and they may not ever match up with mine. Sometimes, that's frustrating, just like life, where you can like someone a whole lot but they simply don't reciprocate your feelings in that way. But, ultimately, I prefer that. It turns them from video game characters that drop all their beliefs, morals, and preferences and cater to my whims and makes them more fleshed out, organic, and complex characters... ones that don't always think how I want them to think, love how I want them to love, or act how I want them to act.
That transcends the romances too. Certain characters will fight you back, stand up to you, challenge your authority, disagree with your orders and your beliefs. They don't just fall in line. You can't always "win" them to your side.
And that's part of the brilliance of the series, I think. While Shepard is important, sometimes your party members have their own problems to deal with and their own baggage to handle, and sometimes that just doesn't include you. Sometimes their lives, their romances, don't include you.
... Now, it could be argued some characters COULD have been handled in a different way (Jack, for instance, expresses a history with both men and women, yet isn't a FemShep option, for instance), but ultimately their acceptance, or lack thereof, of your romantic advances makes them better characters, even when that includes disinterest or rejection.
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#4
Posté 17 janvier 2016 - 05:44
#5
Posté 17 janvier 2016 - 05:50
On one hand, it gives the player more choice. On the other hand, it makes the characters less believable.
Basically, it boils down to whether agency or immersion is more important.
#6
Posté 17 janvier 2016 - 06:04
What Garlador said. I like how each and every one of the characters are their own character, have preferences etc.
Now I don't mind DA2's system at all, but I think it makes for a more unique experience with these characters whose sexuality is defined, and I really like that. And I also think it's good for replayability.
And as frustrating as it can get, sometimes it adds a lot of emotion and attachment to a playthrough. My FemShep fell for Vega, yet it never happened in the game despite constant teasing, and it was a really great experience despite being an unfulfilled love.
I get that this is of course not for everyone, but there are a lot of other options, too. We know FemShep was treated a bit unfair in comparism to MShep, but I still think there's something for everyone. And if not, then hopefully in the next game.
I agree however some characters could've easily been bi, like Jack, but that's for the writers to decide ![]()
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#7
Posté 17 janvier 2016 - 08:08
Garlador said it best. The only thing I disagree with is that it doesn't frustrate me. I like that certain character simply cannot be romanced based on your gender. I've said this in another topic asking a similar question, but I feel characters are no longer unique if anyone can romance them. They feel like their own person with their own preferences. It makes them feel more believable and "alive" if that makes any sense. I like that Miranda and Tali are straight. It makes them far more endearing to me playing as a male character. In fact, I am glad they are straight because they made me like broshep when I initially didn't like him. And vice versa. I ended up like Miranda and Tali a hell of a lot more playing as broshep. I played femshep first and didn't care for either of these two.
I personally am not a fan of having my femshep or broshep engaged in same sex romances. I have nothing against gay people, but I would never go for it.





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