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[MCG]

It's going to be a ballache reconstructing our in Inquisitors faces all over again. Hopefully Bioware use some kind of face import next time.

[Nefla]

No OP, you are far from the only one who thinks the inquisitor should be the protagonist of DA4 for the best story. I feel quite strongly about playing as the inquisitor exclusively for DA4. There's so much potential there after Trespasser! Your character was friends, allies, or even lovers with Solas who has become the antagonist and was manipulated, used, and betrayed by him. Solas' actions led to the catastrophe that was Corypheus and all the deaths that resulted and was even indirectly responsible for the inquisitor's hand being severed. The inquisitor traveled with Solas, spent like a year with him, got to know him as a person and now they're one of the few who knows about his plan to destroy the world. There's a huge connection there and definitely unfinished business either to redeem him or get revenge. Then you have the story potential that comes from having a protagonist that has to deal with the loss of a limb on both a physical and emotional level. That is very appealing to me.

 

To do the same story, to stop Solas as some random new level one person with no connection to Solas would be terrible IMO. I almost certainly won't play DA4 if that's the case. I really don't want to play another "random evil guy is trying to destroy the world, random hero rises quickly from nothing to stop him because someone needs to." It would be even worse if they shoehorned the inquisitor into the game as an invalid questgiver who just sits around all day in a wheelchair or something because he's been made completely and utterly helpless and useless by the loss of his hand. I don't WANT to believe the loss of the inquisitor's hand was done as a cheap way to make them "unable to fight" and toss them aside for a new protagonist even though it feels like a really personal story for them but I get the feeling that's exactly what they did...

[sjsharp2011]

Yeah, the Inquisitor definitely needs to be back.

 

You don't drop out of the storyline after swearing to kill/save the villain. It's makes no sense narratively.

yeah I agree I think the Inquisitor likely will be in DA4 just as Hawke returned in DAI but like Hawke more as an advisor to the new hero though  rather than continue on as the Player character due to the losing the arm. How it will be handled and what's likely to happen in DA4 I'm not too suer but atm it's the most likely working theory.

[BansheeOwnage]

More likely it was a "See, we're not killing your character this time!  Happy?"

 

Edit:  That being said, I'd be quite happy to retire the Inquisitor even with both arms.  That story is done.  Time for a new story with a new hero.

They didn't kill Hawke, no matter what, as well. And they didn't force The Warden to die. Unless you're talking about Shepard. They can technically live... for all the good that does

 

Anyway, Quizzy's story is most definitely not over, just as Solas' story isn't over. And they're linked now. Quizzy's story was finished after the main game, but Trespasser opened if back up with a crowbar.

[Gambit458]

Didn't Bioware come out and say that you won't get to play the same protagonist again, that there'd be a new protagonist for every game. I remember they commented something like that when people asked about the Grey Warden so the likelihood of playing as the Inquisitor again is not good

[BansheeOwnage]

Didn't Bioware come out and say that you won't get to play the same protagonist again, that there'd be a new protagonist for every game. I remember they commented something like that when people asked about the Grey Warden so the likelihood of playing as the Inquisitor again is not good

Yes they did... a few years ago. Maybe they'll stick to that, maybe not. As they love to keep reminding us: "Plans change". DA4 hasn't even been greenlit yet, which means its plot is nowhere near set in stone even now.

 

If they do decide to keep having new protagonists, so be it, but I sure hope they don't do that just because "that's how they've always done it". They should do whatever they think is best for the story, and I hope they still have enough sense to see how much potential there would be if they had they Inquisitor star in another game - they made that potential! If not, I think my faith in them will be just about non-existent.

[ModernAcademic]

In order to eliminate any chance for old characters - from Origins and DA 2 - to make an appearance, I bet DA 4 will happen 10 years after Inquisition.

[Abyss108]

Didn't Bioware come out and say that you won't get to play the same protagonist again, that there'd be a new protagonist for every game. I remember they commented something like that when people asked about the Grey Warden so the likelihood of playing as the Inquisitor again is not good

 

They also said the original plot for Inquisition got cut in half because it was too long for one game, so it was supposed to carry on with the Inquisitor confronting Solas.

 

So no matter whether we get a new protagonist, or keep the Inquisitor, the plan has changed. 

[Abyss108]

yeah I agree I think the Inquisitor likely will be in DA4 just as Hawke returned in DAI but like Hawke more as an advisor to the new hero though  rather than continue on as the Player character due to the losing the arm. How it will be handled and what's likely to happen in DA4 I'm not too suer but atm it's the most likely working theory.

 

I just can't see Weekes writing a plot where a character is pushed to the side because they got a disabling injury, no matter how many times they declare they are going to carry on.

 

I don't have the most faith in every writor at Bioware, but Weekes I'm a massive fan of, and it just doesn't sound like the type of thing he usually writes...

[Smudjygirl]

They also said the original plot for Inquisition got cut in half because it was too long for one game, so it was supposed to carry on with the Inquisitor confronting Solas.

 

So no matter whether we get a new protagonist, or keep the Inquisitor, the plan has changed. 

 

This is what gets me, to be honest. The bits that were used from the canceled DLC made loads of people say that "Hawke should have done this" and i have not seen one person say anything good about Cory. Mostly he was called a recycled boss and the only justification people could use for him was "well, Hawke didn't KNOW he survived". People didn't like the Inquisitor ending the mage/templar war, because they connected that mess with Hawke and their merry band of misfits. We know that there were parts of Inquisition that were meant to be 2, and this did not sit right with most people.

 

 One thing they usually do well it fixing things that do not sit right with the fans. I've not met anyone who was 100% satisfied with how Inquisition turned out, which only worsened after Trespasser. Cory was rushed, and at best he felt like a mid game boss.

 

I mean, Varric is a case that really makes me worry how a new PC will feel going up against Solas. I love Varric, as Hawke he is always my best friend and i feel all of his loss and struggles. It always felt like Varric was there for Hawke through thick and thin, like family. But even though Varric is still one of my all time favourites, i felt neither here nor there for him as the Inquisitor.  He was just a friend. Even though i got some answers about him Hawke never did, i felt like my Inquisitor never truly got to see Varric in the same light Hawke did. To be expected, right? They're different people. The loss of connection i felt there was awful, though. To disconnect how i and many others see Solas through their various Inquisitors for the sake of Lord What'shisname seems like a pointless venture.

 

I just cannot reconcile Solas' story with a new PC. When it comes to DA i vastly prefer a new person each game, i enjoy my time with each and all the new lords and ladies we get to pal around with. But if- note the if- the next game feels like it has a new PC for the sake of having a new PC, i won't get it. If they manage to make it work, i will (but only after i have read reviews). If it has the Inquisitor as PC i will 100% buy it.

 

Obviously not everyone shares this opinion, and they are just as justified in that opinion as we are. Either way SOMEONE will be disappointed and Bioware will feel the strain of what they set up. Trespasser gave of many mixed signals as to what will happen to the Inquisitor and Solas, It seemed to me they were keeping their options open. It was neither a definitive "we''ll keep going" or "goodbye".  I just hope, whatever they choose, it works and some middle ground can be found with the fanbase haha

[Schizya]

Geez, even without a hand you guys still can't let it go.  

 

Um... what? I didn't even say that I want the inquisitor back, only that I think he will be back. Geez

[Iakus]

They didn't kill Hawke, no matter what, as well. And they didn't force The Warden to die. Unless you're talking about Shepard. They can technically live... for all the good that does

 

Anyway, Quizzy's story is most definitely not over, just as Solas' story isn't over. And they're linked now. Quizzy's story was finished after the main game, but Trespasser opened if back up with a crowbar.

That was, in fact, a shot at ME3 and Shepard's fate, yes 

 

Though I should point out that by the end of DAI, both the Warden and Hawke can be dead.

 

The Inquisitor's story is now, for all intents and purposes, over.  He or she may play a role in the next story.  But ultimately it will be someone else's story.

[Caprea]

*snip*

 

I mean, Varric is a case that really makes me worry how a new PC will feel going up against Solas. I love Varric, as Hawke he is always my best friend and i feel all of his loss and struggles. It always felt like Varric was there for Hawke through thick and thin, like family. But even though Varric is still one of my all time favourites, i felt neither here nor there for him as the Inquisitor.  He was just a friend. Even though i got some answers about him Hawke never did, i felt like my Inquisitor never truly got to see Varric in the same light Hawke did. To be expected, right? They're different people. The loss of connection i felt there was awful, though. To disconnect how i and many others see Solas through their various Inquisitors for the sake of Lord What'shisname seems like a pointless venture.

 

I just cannot reconcile Solas' story with a new PC. When it comes to DA i vastly prefer a new person each game, i enjoy my time with each and all the new lords and ladies we get to pal around with. But if- note the if- the next game feels like it has a new PC for the sake of having a new PC, i won't get it. If they manage to make it work, i will (but only after i have read reviews). If it has the Inquisitor as PC i will 100% buy it.

 

*snip*

 

Exactly my thoughts. Though the emotional disconnection from Varric didn't bother me much because we were playing a completely different character who has, compared to Hawke, a completely different level of interaction and chemistry with Varric for various reasons (different character, different perspective, considerably less time spent together so Varric shares different things on a different level etc.). And Varric's special connection with Hawke could and should never be replicated anyway. 

 

I think that replacing the Inquisitor with a new PC as the main driving force to resolve the conflict with Solas wouldn't make much sense from a narrative perspective either: It would completely undermine the history (and possibly the bond) the Inquisitor and Solas share, as well as both characters' personal development in favor of a new character who might have a good reason to want to stop Solas because he threatens the world, but unlike the Inquisitor, would have no real emotional incentive to confront him on a personal level. Solas would have to react completely differently  to a new PC compared to the Inquisitor, as well. The altered character dynamics would change the way the whole conflict unfolds, too. And that would, in my opinion, 'deface' Solas as an antagonist who is, as we know, ad odds with himself over what he's going to do, and turn him into a more or less standard villain who wouldn't have any incentive to tell the new protagonist how he feels about what he's doing and why, kinda like Coryphispit. "Yeah, I'm gonna destory the world because I want to restore the world of the elves. Really sorry pal, but I don't give a fig about what you might think about that." It would just be such a waste.

Replacing the Inquisitor with a new protagonist to sort out the mess with Solas would be throwing everything overboard that BioWare worked for to convey what we saw in Trespasser. It would feel highly inappopriate to me personally, anyway. So I think that that will be sorted out with the Inquisitor playing an important role (or at least, I hope so) - the question is just how.

[KaiserShep]

It's going to be a ballache reconstructing our in Inquisitors faces all over again. Hopefully Bioware use some kind of face import next time.

I don't see why they can't import, since the game will only be on the 3 current platforms. I'd hate for my inquisitor to return with the default voice for their race.

[Heimdall]

I don't see why they can't import, since the game will only be on the 3 current platforms. I'd hate for my inquisitor to return with the default voice for their race.

They've stated their intent to keep using the Dragon Age Keep site for the foreseeable future, as it is much easier to fix if something goes wrong.

[Lady Artifice]

I don't see why they can't import, since the game will only be on the 3 current platforms. I'd hate for my inquisitor to return with the default voice for their race.

 

Maybe they'll let you adjust that the way they did with Hawke's appearance. 

[KaiserShep]

Maybe they'll let you adjust that the way they did with Hawke's appearance.

I'm actually hoping that any character import we get allows us to carry over their appearance, because without a code, it'll be a pain to get every little detail just right. I don't really expect the character designs to differ as greatly as it did between these 3 games, or at least I sure hope not.

[KaiserShep]

They've stated their intent to keep using the Dragon Age Keep site for the foreseeable future, as it is much easier to fix if something goes wrong.

Yeah, the Keep was on my mind when I mentioned this, but I just don't want to deal with multiple CC's (assuming the inquisitor is just one of 2 customizable characters like DA:I).

[nightscrawl]

It's going to be a ballache reconstructing our in Inquisitors faces all over again. Hopefully Bioware use some kind of face import next time.

 
I don't really foresee this happening, but you never know.

 

I don't see why they can't import, since the game will only be on the 3 current platforms. I'd hate for my inquisitor to return with the default voice for their race.

 
Whether the Inquisitor makes a cameo or whatever it is, I highly doubt our four VAs will not return unless there is some major problem with the actor. Bioware has an excellent track record for returning VAs (er... for DA anyway, I don't know about ME), and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

Maybe they'll let you adjust that the way they did with Hawke's appearance.

 
I think this is the most likely scenario, especially as whatever CC will likely be different in the next game, even if they stick with the Frostbite engine. (They damn well better, they spent a lot of time developing new stuff for DAI.)

 

They've stated their intent to keep using the Dragon Age Keep site for the foreseeable future, as it is much easier to fix if something goes wrong.

 

I'm actually hoping that any character import we get allows us to carry over their appearance, because without a code, it'll be a pain to get every little detail just right. I don't really expect the character designs to differ as greatly as it did between these 3 games, or at least I sure hope not.

The problem here is that the DA Keep doesn't pull that information from the save files. It only pulls the relevant plot flag information and some miscellaneous details on your PC -- name, gender, race, class.

BUT, that information IS present in the save files and is accessible. It has all of the CC options, including analog x,y coordinates for those options that have them. As I said above, if the DA4 CC is different, there would be no point in using that information anyway, since those DAI settings would not apply to the DA4 CC.

[dogstar12]

Possible team members or main character Marius, Tessa, Calpernia, Dorian or Maevaris Feynriel the dreamer from DA2

[Heimdall]

Yeah, the Keep was on my mind when I mentioned this, but I just don't want to deal with multiple CC's (assuming the inquisitor is just one of 2 customizable characters like DA:I).

It's a pain, but probably what we'll get. I don't really mind much personally

[Shechinah]

It's a pain, but probably what we'll get. I don't really mind much personally

 

I just need to remember to check the side profile the next time around because ho boy, Hawke had some dark magic done to her nose while on the run.

[sjsharp2011]

I just can't see Weekes writing a plot where a character is pushed to the side because they got a disabling injury, no matter how many times they declare they are going to carry on.

 

I don't have the most faith in every writor at Bioware, but Weekes I'm a massive fan of, and it just doesn't sound like the type of thing he usually writes...

 

 

Just because he dosen't usua;lly write something dosen't necessarily mean they wouldn't. Anyway we'll find out when the next game comes. Besides the Inqusitor themselves say that their adventuring days are done at the end of Trespasser. So it's more likely that if the Inquisitor does reappear again it's more likely as an advisor than as the main protagonist regardless of what happens

[Heimdall]

I just need to remember to check the side profile the next time around because ho boy, Hawke had some dark magic done to her nose while on the run.

I could only get mine to look vaguely similar given the engine difference, she looks like a distant cousin in DAI.

[Shechinah]

I could only get mine to look vaguely similar given the engine difference, she looks like a distant cousin in DAI.

 

It's going to be much less difficult with my other Hawke, I suppose, since he'll be rather unkempt with a good beard and some long hair to hide facial inconsistencies. He is basically suppose to look worn and old before his time so there's not much the engine difference can do to him that I won't be doing.

 

If the Inquisitor do end up making an appearance, I'm inclined to give a few of mine some agelines and maybe some graying hair if it can be allowed especially the first Inquisitor because I think she's been through enough stress to justify showing some premature aging. Won't make her any less badass: I like to headcanon that she'll be wrangling the world's worries long past her prime if canon says nothing to the contrary.