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Sera, Solas and Spirits! A theory that will explain it all !


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Hey there guys,

 

not long ago I put together some facts and came up with a dragon age theory. I tried to prove an obvious connection of Solas, elven pantheon and even Inquisitor to spirits*(all links below).

 

I was going to work on consequences of the spirit theory vid, but then I stumbled upon theory vid by Geek Remix**. While I do agree with some of her ideas, I believe she was not able to follow through due to lack of new perspectives on the subject. My perspective is affected by the theory I made, so here I am to present you a new theory: Sera is connected to a spirit!

 

Here is what I found:

 

There are many weird dialogues between Sera and Cole. He often talks about her as if there was another person behind her body.  The weird dialogues occur even between Sera and Solas and as much as she hates Fen'Harel for being "too elfish", Solas does not care and is often trying to prove her deep connection to the elven culture and elven people.

 

Before you read the following dialogue, keep in mind that according to my theory Solas is connected to a spirit and therefore, he is able to sense other spirits (like Cole's or Inquisitor's "spirit").

 

Sera: (shivers) Weird.

Solas: Sera? What are you feeling?

Sera: Ugh, here we go. It’s nothing, it just feels like I've seen this. Exactly this. It happens.

Solas: Not to everyone.

Sera: It’s not an elf thing. Inquisitor's not shaking.

Sera: I suppose now you’ll switch to how I’m the same but different?

Solas: You are different. You are the furthest from what you were meant to be.

Sera: Well I’ve definitely heard ****** like this before. Hmph!

 

So what is Sera? Why is the thing that has happened and happens? Do you remember that in the world without the Veil it was imagination that shaped the reality? For the ancient elves such a reality was normal and in my opinion Sera is the same, because she is an elf, but she is the furthest from what she WAS meant to be, because she can still feel the connection to the Fade - where things has happened before they happen. 

 

Sera asks if others could feel the same thing : events happening all over again. Cole answers her: In the soft thin places, spirits push with memories that didn't happen. Or did. Or might.

 

Cole sees a spirit in her too. Allow me to not to copy-paste full dialogues, just short fragments so you are not flooded with too much text: 

 

Cole: You aren't your eyes. You live behind them.

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Cole:There are songs in every part of you, Sera. Soft silly sibilant, sighing in silence, waiting for you to hear them.

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Cole: Sera, no matter how you turn your head, your ears point to the Fade. Do you do it on purpose?

 

I am sure you are wondering "If Sera is a connected to a sprit, why does not she sense them too?", right? Oh well, she sense them. Do you remember a story about Abelas from Dragon Age Origins***? He cut a tree that had a spirit inside it. What if Sera's bow was made of a wood from such a tree ? Here is the dialogue:

 

Cole: Your bow was a tree once. A girl with a long name met a boy with strong hands there.

Cole: Her body warm, leaning against the trunk, hair tangled in branches and fingers. "Forever, no matter what."

Cole: They cut letters in the bark. When her parents took her away, he cut the letters away to forget.

Cole: Every time you pull it, the part that was a tree remembers. Can you feel it under your fingers?

Cole: When you fire your bow, it hums after, every time.

Cole: Your mind makes it quiet, but if you heard it backwards, it would sound longer, a thrum through the gut.

Cole: But don't think about it, or you'll tense your shoulder like you do, and then your shot will go too far left.

Sera: It's like its face doesn't know what it's saying! Eww!

 

I am sure she can sense other spirits. Geek Remix explained that Sera's thoughts and conversations are always messy as if she was not able or did not want to focus too much. Geek Remix believes that Sera is "randomly thoughtless". because she has Andruil's key inside her. I however believe that her connection to a Spirit (thereofore - a connection to the Fade) forces her to defend her mind and causes this randomness in her talk.After all, Sera is terrified of spirits and the Fade. If Inquisitor ever tries to help spirits - Sera dissaproves. If Inquisitor takes her to the Fade - Sera freaks out. That fear keeps her from exploring herself deeper.

 

But why is she afraid of the spirits and the Fade if she is connected to it? Well, as we know Sera was psychologically abused by Lady Emmald. Sera said that she was forced to not accept herself. Why would a noble who could not have children adopt a kid and then harm it? Now - big discovery: SERA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS NO APPROVAL CHANGES WHEN IT COMES TO TRANQUILITY!!!!!! Perhaps, this "psychological abuse" was a way to save Sera from becoming a tranquil? After all she lived in a city and an elf with uncontrollable magical talents would be made tranquil. Even if she would be able to control her powers, she would have to be taken away to the Circle! 

 

I have some other proofs, but I wanted to give them a deeper thought.

 

I am aware of the fact that in one conversation Solas says to Sera: "Ar dirthan'as ir elgara, ma'sula e'var vhenan.". In Geek Remix vid there is a small mistake in the quote, but she also suspects that "elgara" is a grammatical form of "spirit". However, it is possible, that "elgara" means the Sun. However, if elgara meant "Sun" the word should be capitalized.  Anyway, some translations indicate that the sentence could be about "I [Solas] speaking" (ar dirthan) , "a spirit" (elgar), "her singing" (ma sulahn) and "our heart" (var vhenan). Geek Remix translation about a trapped spirit fits my spirit theory, but this translation comes from a mistake in the elven text she used, so I do not want to give this idea too much credit, however I sincerely hope she is right :) !

 

Ok, there is still more, but I do not wanna make this post too long :). I will add links below.

 

WRITE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS THEORY~!

 

THANKS!

EDIT: Neither my theory nor Geek Remix's supports the idea of Sera being possessed by Andruil.

 

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*Link to the Spirit thread and to the vid: vid:  http://forum.bioware...rld-has-to-die/

 

 
**Link to the Sera thread and to the vid by Geek Remix: http://forum.bioware...3#entry18217195
 
 
*** Link to the story about Abelas and spirit tree: http://dragonage.wik...recilian_Forest

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Pffbbtt!


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Pffbbtt!

Pfft!



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Sera is unlike any character I ever used in any of my RPG games. Could she be attached to a spirit? Interesting thought and I base that the way she babbles around questions like she had something to hide.

 

You'll not get a pfft! here even though I'm not sure if she is attached to a spirit like Wynne was..



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Take her into the fade after Adamant.

She freaks out.
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Sera is unlike any character I ever used in any of my RPG games. Could she be attached to a spirit? Interesting thought and I base that the way she babbles around questions like she had something to hide.

 

You'll not get a pfft! here even though I'm not sure if she is attached to a spirit like Wynne was..

Oh no no. Wynne is a different story. She was possessed by a spirit that wanted to make its way into the mortal world. I use the word "connected", because I am not certain if "possession" would have the same meaning in the world without the Fade. You know... Spirits would not need possess anybody to among the living.



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Oh no no. Wynne is a different story. She was possessed by a spirit that wanted to make its way into the mortal world. I use the word "connected", because I am not certain if "possession" would have the same meaning in the world without the Fade. You know... Spirits would not need possess anybody to among the living.

 

I thought the Spirit entered Wynne to save Wynnes life not possess her lol. 

 

 

I would have to watch these videos sometime but I always chalked Sera's attitude toward things to her being her lol



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Wynnes  spirit helps her stay alive and its a good spirit according to Wynne that has always protected her while in the fade either as a mage or when she dreams.

 

Sera is a wild one without a doubt.. She puts a arrow in a guy's eye and then jokes about it "Obey me arrow in my face".

 

While she is one of my favorite characters she does have a tenancy to aggravate  me  when she dodges questions. 



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I think Sera was just describing deja vu. I sometimes get it as well. It feels like I see something that I dreamt about the night before. I've also thought about certain TV shows and movies only to see them airing later in the day. In my case this is probably just random happenstance, but in Sera's it's probably a type of clairvoyance. Flemeth seems to be able to see future events, and I'm sure this is the same ability as Sera, just perfected.

 

Cole's comment about the thin places showing memories, I think this is just like what happened at Soldier's Peak and how it showed what happened with Sophia and Avernus. Again, this will give a felling of deja vu.

 

When Cole talks about everything singing a song, I think he's referring to the fact that the Fade is in everything. Meaning, everything in the real world has a Fade world within it. Like, pages of a book have letters and words that mean things. And this creates a world within the Fade that exists as an idea. But I don't think this has anything to do with Sera specifically.

 

Ultimately, I think Sera's role in the next game will be minimal. She is a possible romance, but she can also be dismissed or not recruited. So I don't think she will be important.

 

l also I don't think Sera was abused. She may have very easily misinterpreted her mother's actions. Perhaps the baker really did hate elves. Sera might just be assuming that her mother made it up that the baker hated elves so she would stay away from him and not realize the cookies her mother gave her were from the baker. Sera might be reading into that.



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I thought the Spirit entered Wynne to save Wynnes life not possess her lol. 

 

 

I would have to watch these videos sometime but I always chalked Sera's attitude toward things to her being her lol

hmmm, I would not bet my life on it, but if I remember well she said that spirit had come to her or sth... 

Well, I do recommend you all theory vids ^^ ! They are always fun to watch and discuss ^^ ! 



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While she is one of my favorite characters she does have a tenancy to aggravate  me  when she dodges questions. 

True true. Did not like her because she always disapproved of all my actions, but her mysterious nature is very appealing ^^ !



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Flemeth seems to be able to see future events, and I'm sure this is the same ability as Sera, just perfected.

 

 

Oh , that is true.  But if my theory is right then Mthal is connected to a spirit too. Along with Elgar'nan ("elgar" - spirit). Yeah, thanks. DId not think of that, but it actually delivers one more "proof".

Hum, I still feel like she has some magical potential. Solas asked her why she did not learn magic. And then there is that weird detail about her indifference when it comes to tranquility.



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Take her into the fade after Adamant.

She freaks out.

But also tells a very interesting thing about "Nothing" (capital N) after you come back to Skyhold. Weird that a tombstone with the name of her biggest fear shows "The Nothing" too :v. I know some people believe she meant emptiness and meaningless, but it would be great if she actually meant some person, The Forgotten One or a spirit. 



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No.
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Where's the... ah, yes.

 

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Thank you Sten. It's appreciated.



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Ugh, Golden Gail...



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Where's the... ah, yes.

 

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Thank you Sten. It's appreciated.

Thank you for participating in dicussion :v 


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GoldenGail3, 
 

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but are not you that troll who hangs around here to always say "no"? I think I saw a dozen of similar posts.



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GoldenGail3, 
 
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but are not you that troll who hangs around here to always say "no"? I think I saw a dozen of similar posts.

What? I am not a troll! I say my oponion, and Sera being a Evernus/Spirt isn't one of those things I agree too. Sorry if I don't agree with you.c

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What? I am not a troll! I say my oponion, and Sera being a Evernus/Spirt isn't one of those things I agree too. Sorry if I don't agree with you.c

I did not say she was an Evanuris or a spirit :v .................... Well. Nvm. 



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I did not say she was an Evanuris or a spirit :v .................... Well. Nvm.

You said she was connected to a spirt. I think Sera's a low level Mage, actually, not connected to a Spirt.

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You said she was connected to a spirt. I think Sera's a low level Mage, actually, not connected to a Spirt.

Yes, I said she was connected. Well at least we agree  on the theory that Sera might have some magic abilities :3



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Sera does seem odd in many ways and very secretive about her past and now that makes me wonder if she was made tranquil and regain some of her senses?  Maybe that's why she is afraid of the simplest spills?  IDK.

 

I've played dozens of RPGs  over the last 27 years and I've seen a lot of twist,turns and what the hey moments.. I suspect we will see Sera again.



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Yes, I said she was connected. Well at least we agree  on the theory that Sera might have some magic abilities :3


Like not enough for her to keep on getting these theories though. I think everyone should agree that Sera is Sera and that none of these will change her.

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It's an intriguing theory, and there does seem to be allusions to Sera being something more than she appears.

 

You said she was connected to a spirt. I think Sera's a low level Mage, actually, not connected to a Spirt.

 

A low level mage? "Hedge" mages, especially ones who aren't very skilled in magic, tend to be have very dangerous and unpredictable abilities. She would require exceptional training and skill to hide magical tendencies so completely.