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[AlanC9]

I've found this one to be interesting. On the one hand, should you really be picking one group of soldiers to die just because you've met the other group? On the other hand, the group you've met is loyal to you in a way the other group is not. But if you don't trust qunari to honor their commitments, you shouldn't even be getting this quest in the first place.

[robertmarilyn]

I role play this the same way in every game and that's to say "Nope, not going to kill members and/or friends of the Inquisition for the Qun. Not now and not ever!"

[TheKomandorShepard]

Well i can chose to save my ally or my enemy (temporary ally that inevitably will stab me in the back).

 

So yeah i get mission done as venatori operation is down, keep my soldiers and at same time do some damage to qunari.

 

As for not doing mission if don't trust qunari you still may want to take down venatori even if you don't trust qunari.

[ArcadiaGrey]

My reasoning....

Kill the chargers - a noble who can see the bigger picture and is perhaps willing to take losses. Knows the power of the Qunari and what an asset they'd be. May think all mercs are scum and doesn't care to save them, is happy to use them as they're dispensible.

Save them - a mage who hates the Qunari for their attitudes to magic. Or a dwarf/elf who knows the value of good teammates who are regular fighting folk, and is loyal to them. A Cadash would respect mercs as was basically one themselves.

[nightscrawl]

My Inquisitor saves the Chargers.

 

The first, objective reason is that my character is wary of the Qunari in general.  It's not that he doesn't trust them to honor their commitments to the Inquisition, but that he is also looking at the long game and considering what happens when Corypheus is defeated. Even Iron Bull agrees when you bring up some of this stuff when he initially gives you the quest. There is some personal RP stuff I'm not going to get into that contributes to this as well. But he is willing to meet and see how it goes.

 

The second is purely emotional and a direct reaction to the immediate circumstances. These are Iron Bull's men, but he turns to you because he cannot make the decision himself. Knowing how important they are to him leads my Inquisitor to save the Chargers every time.

 

So, it's really a win-win for my Inquisitor. He doesn't trust the Qunari anyway, so doesn't feel that it's a great loss, and he saves the Chargers who have more than proven their worth.

[thats1evildude]

My character wasn't overly keen on qunari and was quite appreciative of the Chargers, so he sacrificed the ship.

[Gilli]

I will always save the Chargers, cause I don't like the Qun.

 

Also the Chargers are my friends. 

 

[CronoDragoon]

You don't need to trust the Qunari to choose the alliance. You just need to trust that they want Corypheus dead more than the Inquisitor. And really, if they wanted to screw the Inquisition as the war was going, Bull or one of the Chargers would have already tried to assassinate you.

Since my Dalish elf is my canon, though, I RP that they are terrible at politics and strategy and favor tribalism of sorts, so I choose the Chargers.

[AnimalBoy]

Save the Chargers no matter what. Always.

[Krypplingz]

Kalisea was very Qunari when she was on the job. Loosing the Chargers was sad, but there would be more losses if the Venetori got away. She and Bull both knew that in her opinion, so she sided with Gatt.

Cressida's backstory was that if she was running away from a bear with a friend, she would stab her friend in the legs so she could outrun the bear. So the Chargers were just one more casualty to get the job done.

Adair did not want anything to do with the Qunari (as a group) after the Arishok attacked Kirkwall, so he didn't do the quest but sent a polite refusal letter instead. And a basket of flowers. 

Mytjan decided to save the fluffy group on the hill because it was tuesday. 

Isalath found the Chargers quite useful and she'd rather save a group of familiar people she knew were useful rather than unfamiliar people whose usefulness she wasn't sure about. 

Saerin was very clan minded, so she would save her own people before saving strangers. Even if the strangers were potential allies.

Cadogan would rather save a group of good Andrastians over  a group of heathen oxmen. And well he liked the Chargers more. _{And he wanted to know where he could go to get experience in binding pillowy woman/man bosoms. For Andraste.} 

[Pensieve]

I saved the Chargers on one playthrough and sacrificed them on another, just because I wanted to see both outcomes in Tresspasser. I'm a terrible roleplayer

[Merela]

Fjalar didn't believe in the Qun's offer for an "alliance", but since it was important for Bull, he agreed to at least meet with their envoy. When he found himself faced with the choice of either save people already working for the Inquisition, good at their jobs, and whom he rather liked or the vague promise of help coming from a governement which sees the rest of Thedas (including the Inquisitor, of course) as bas who need to be conquered in the name of the Qun's concept of "order", said help which would laste for the Maker only knows how long...well, it was an easy choice.

[The Loyal Nub]

Gotta save the Chargers. Not for any political reasons or Bull reasons but because it's completely heartless not to.

[Dabrikishaw]

I don't roleplay this at all. I don't like the Qun and killing the Chargers doesn't get me anything tangible now that I have the Golden Nug.

[berelinde]

Most of my Inquisitors save the Chargers because they are working directly for the Inquisition. If the Inquisition is going to treat its own people as expendable, they wouldn't be allies worth having.

[The Baconer]

Not only can I remove a mole from the Inquisition, I can pick up a few tips on dealing with Dreadnoughts. 

[Asdrubael Vect]

Not care about charges and they are not more valuable as other forces. even less cos they are mercs not our soldiers and alliances as mages can be

 

By any RP and logical as tactical reason there cant be any deals and alliances with Qunari

 

You are a mage(no matter what you have powers to bend fade and deamons), you can be kossith Talvashot(so thats clearly no no to Qun) humans from andrastian family with many templars so if you are rp a mindless andrastjan templar like meredith you cant deal with heretics from qunari even if it was not by a logic and emotions

 

Remember saerabases and readucation cos this is the only what waits you and others who help you save south Thedas from breach with Qunari, and you know that Qunari can call you Basalit as Cadan and stab you in the back and give you a letter about "helping against Tevinter" after like it was nothing...."alliance" with Quanri is clearly temporal and its never would worth it

 

So it would be better and better will kill Bull and Charges if this was able to hurt Qunari, but in this quest saving Charges hurt Qunari and their dreadnaugt was destroyed by a mage...destroyed dreadnaugt is a good job

 

It is kinda better to side(atleast give some support who can be secret) with Venatory or what was lefted from them against Qunari after killing Coryfeus and then the Qunari war would started and they invade again, they are good in guerella battles and do damage against Qunari and ready to die then fight with them and cant be readucated to become Qunari

[AnimalBoy]

Besides, if i don't save them then Dalish can't become my future love interest.

[Medhia_Nox]

I roleplay like the Commander of a world altering organization.

 

- The Qun has a history of non-cooperation.  My character had all of the "training" options that gave extra dialogue including Nobility and History.

 

- The Chargers are NOT just some members of the Inqusition.  They are a loyal, elite tactical group.

 

- The quest begins with Inquisition troops in the greatest danger (and with the Inquisition fitting the biggest bill).

 

- The quest reveals that the Qunari intelligence is bad OR that they knew there were more than a few Vints.

 

- The quest ends with the Qun demanding you (the Inquisition) to pay an even higher price for their alliance while the Qun pays nothing. 

 

- The Qunari will always fight the Tevinter regardless of alliance.

 

- The Qunari will continue to stop the red lyrium trade regardless of alliance.

 

For me, anyone purchasing the alliance of known deal breakers with a loyal, elite task force is making the poor choice. 

 

In my opinion you get less than nothing from the Qunari alliance.  The war with Corypheus is a land war.  There is no need for dreadnoughts.  ((trade vessels would outrun dreadnoughts so they're useless for anything but sea battles or bombardments (and none of our points of interest are on the coast).

[Wulfram]

Unless my Inquisitor really dislikes the Qun - which most of them don't because they haven't had much contact - I save the Dreadnought.

Practically, an alliance with the Qunari could be crucial. Turns out its not, but it could have been. Morally, it seems like the Dreadnought would have more people on board, even aside from any extra people saved by the alliance.

[AnimalBoy]

It's a choice between duty and friendship. Duty may gain you the numbers but i rather have the friendship and dedication of the Chargers by my side.

[Iakus]

The way I RP it:

 

I do not trust the Qunari.  Yes, we have a common enemy, but I don't trust the alliance to last beyond Corypheus.

[straykat]

I don't recruit Bull in the first place... never even played the quest. How do you even RP having him to begin with? That's my question.

 

 

OK, I did at first. But I was bummed, so I deleted that save.

[AnimalBoy]

I always recruit everyone. For as much as some games are i want every single piece of content i can get. They're video game characters so they could never annoy me or ****** me off. They're not real.

[XEternalXDreamsX]

Unless my Inquisitor really dislikes the Qun - which most of them don't because they haven't had much contact - I save the Dreadnought.

Practically, an alliance with the Qunari could be crucial. Turns out its not, but it could have been. Morally, it seems like the Dreadnought would have more people on board, even aside from any extra people saved by the alliance.

I wonder if saving the Dreadnaught could offer an alternate world state variation with the Qun in DA4 since, via the epilogue description, they consider the alliance ongoing. You lose Bull and Chargers but you gain a world state variation only by making that decision.

But alas, like many choices in the past like -
Giving Arishok the book and Isabella.

Turning over Ketojan to his Qun brethren.

Working with Petrice against the Quanri.*
*she says she'll aid Hawke by getting support from within the Chantry. I don't think much came from that.

Gaining Sten of DAO's respect doesn't seem to alter anything from the Sten turn Arishok's views..yet.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying these decisions need to span games but they don't necessarily tend to have positive outcomes within their own games with the IB personal quest being the newest. You lose a companion and a group of NPCs and gain alternate war table missions.

Sorry for rambling but I think Bioware is aiming for the Qun being like Cerberus in ME. Even if you agree with their existence or views, they are going to remain as an antagonistic group because of the circumstances.