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[Iakus]

He never talks about them being thieves at all. He apparently just panicked upon losing a weapon, and apparently the natural qunari panic response is mass murder.

 

To me, this adds to the evidence that the qunari are kossith who drank WAY too much dragon blood in the past, and as a result, even today are prone to impulsive and violent behavior.  And the Qun is somehow necessary for them to hold such impulses at bay.  They need that rigid lawful code of behavior to follow to keep the chaos at bay..

 

Like Vulcans 

 

Oh, uh, favorite LI of the series?  Um, Leliana, 

[GreyLycanTrope]

Yes he did.  He even lays it out for you.  He saw his squad killed, then woke up in a strange place, confused, and without his weapon.  In this frightened and confused state, he though the family helping him were, in fact, thieves, and attacked them.

 

That was his reason.  That he was wrong, and admits that he was wrong, does nothing to negate that he had a reason for his actions at the time.

I'm pretty sure he mentions asking the farmers about the sword and believing they didn't have it before murdering them. His only "reason" for killing them was that he was in a state of panic and lashing out at those closest.

[Catilina]

To me, this adds to the evidence that the qunari are kossith who drank WAY too much dragon blood in the past, and as a result, even today are prone to impulsive and violent behavior.  And the Qun is somehow necessary for them to hold such impulses at bay.  They need that rigid lawful code of behavior to follow to keep the chaos at bay..

 

Like Vulcans 

 

Oh, uh, favorite LI of the series?  Um, Leliana, 

Hmmm Leliana... another murderer

[Iakus]

Hmmm Leliana... another murderer

I am hard-pressed to think of any LIs in Dragon Age who aren't murderers on some level...

 

Even Alistair participated in a failed Harrowing which makes him worse than Hitler to some minds 

[vertigomez]

I was annoyed when he did that with Hadriana. Killing a surrendered foe - especially a woman - is dishonorable. It was also annoying because Hawke couldn't do anything about it.

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Besides all that, it wasn't some duel where Hadriana was a... worthy opponent, or whatever. She was as bad as Danarius. She routinely tortured, humiliated, and starved Fenris for the lulz and was going to drag him back to slavery. Wasn't sad to see her die.

[Catilina]

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Besides all that, it wasn't some duel where Hadriana was a... worthy opponent, or whatever. She was as bad as Danarius. She routinely tortured, humiliated, and starved Fenris for the lulz and was going to drag him back to slavery. Wasn't sad to see her die.

True. Nobody care about killing Hadriana, except Fenris. He wanted to see her dead, but not under these conditions... do not forget, Fenris did promise. Also Fenris did not want to kill her, and regretted it. (Hadriana was a monster, not a woman.... ok, female monster...)

[Xilizhra]

To me, this adds to the evidence that the qunari are kossith who drank WAY too much dragon blood in the past, and as a result, even today are prone to impulsive and violent behavior.  And the Qun is somehow necessary for them to hold such impulses at bay.  They need that rigid lawful code of behavior to follow to keep the chaos at bay..

 

Like Vulcans 

 

Oh, uh, favorite LI of the series?  Um, Leliana, 

Well, they don't actually need that, as shown by various non-crazy Tal-/Vashoth.

[vertigomez]

Well, they don't actually need that, as shown by various non-crazy Tal-/Vashoth.

Yeah, I think it's more that they assume they need it, and are too terrified/accustomed to try to live peacefully without that rigid structure 'keeping' them sane.

[Inkvisiittori]

I am hard-pressed to think of any LIs in Dragon Age who aren't murderers on some level...

 

Even Alistair participated in a failed Harrowing which makes him worse than Hitler to some minds 

 

Hah, so true. My favorite LI is Solas and he is probably worst of them all...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I am hard-pressed to think of any LIs in Dragon Age who aren't murderers on some level...

 

Even Alistair participated in a failed Harrowing which makes him worse than Hitler to some minds 

Josephine and Merrill have not committed murder. 

[Andromelek]

Josephine and Merrill have not committed murder.

Josephine accidentally killed a guy when she was a bard, Merrill can kill Marethari and even if she does not she is the responsible of her dead.

[Steelcan]

For my male characters, none of them really. I'm increasingly less tolerant of Morrigan and the others don't appeal to me much, Josephine takes second I guess cause she was great with my Inquisitors.

For female characters, Alistair hands down.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Josephine accidentally killed a guy when she was a bard, Merrill can kill Marethari and even if she does not she is the responsible of her dead.

Neither of those are murder. Josephine killed that person on accident while defending herself from being killed by him, and Merrill killing Marethari was an assisted suicide since she told us she had to die. And both expressed extreme remorse for the action even when it wasn't murder. 

[Catilina]

Hah, so true. My favorite LI is Solas and he is probably worst of them all...

 

He said he is not a monster ...

[YourFunnyUncle]

Murder is one thing, but Merrill still happily kills mooks aplenty. I think the only LI who is genuinely disgusted by the idea of ever killing anyone herself is Josephine.

[Andromelek]

Neither of those are murder. Josephine killed that person on accident while defending herself from being killed by him, and Merrill killing Marethari was an assisted suicide since she told us she had to die. And both expressed extreme remorse for the action even when it wasn't murder.

Sounds fair for Josephine, although on Merrill's case she is still guilty, Marethari was possessed for saving Merrill from the Demon which she was playing with.... Remorse doesn't help with anything.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Murder is one thing, but Merrill still happily kills mooks aplenty. I think the only LI who is genuinely disgusted by the idea of ever killing anyone herself is Josephine.

True, but we were discussing murder specifically. We'll never have a companion LI that has never killed, unless they have it where the person uses non-lethal means or something(which would only work in Mass Effect and maybe the new IP).

 

Yeah, the incident she had cemented Josephine's mindset of always wanting to find a peaceful solution to problems. 

 

Sounds fair for Josephine, although on Merrill's case she is still guilty, Marethari was possessed for saving Merrill from the Demon which she was playing with.... Remorse doesn't help with anything.

No she isn't. The only person guilty for Marethari's actions is Marethari. 

[Inkvisiittori]

And yet Sten seems to be one of the franchises favorite characters to many and he killed an entire innocent family for no reason. Sera can kill a not so innocent noble and is vilified for it.

 

What annoyed me most about the Fenris situation was that there was no 'paragon interrupt.' Hawke was completely powerless in that situation. At least with Sera we can prevent that from happening. And with Sten we weren't even there when it happened.

[Catilina]

What annoyed me most about the Fenris situation was that there was no 'paragon interrupt.' Hawke was completely powerless in that situation. At least with Sera we can prevent that from happening. And with Sten we weren't even there when it happened.

 

No. Inquisitor cant interrupt Sera.

 

And whats your problem with killing Hadriana? Really... Hadriana only a damn female monster, who sacrificed her slaves. Why Hawke coud want interrupt Fenris? Only also takes note that once he promised to keep her alive, he was not right to do this...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No. Inquisitor cant interrupt Sera.

 

And whats your problem with killing Hadriana? Really... Hadriana only a damn female monster, who sacrificed her slaves. Why Hawke coud want interrupt Fenris? Only also takes note that once he promised to keep her alive, he was not right to do this...

The problem I have with companions doing that is because murder is bad.

[Andromelek]

No she isn't. The only person guilty for Marethari's actions is Marethari.

You know that without her, the demon just could have possessed Merrill and killed the clan along with many other people before being stopped, right? Merrill played with the demon without having any safety measure, if I do a stupid thing and someone takes the killing blow for me, I'm the responsible for the death of that person.

[vertigomez]

So, how 'bout dem love interests?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You know that without her, the demon just could have possessed Merrill and killed the clan along with many other people before being stopped, right? Merrill played with the demon without having any safety measure, if I do a stupid thing and someone takes the killing blow for me, I'm the responsible for the death of that person.

No, as a matter of fact I don't know that. Please provide the source on this. 

Yeah, it's not like Merrill brought someone with her to kill her in case she gets possessed. Oh wait, that's exactly what she does. 

[Catilina]

The problem I have with companions doing that is because murder is bad.

 

Undoubtedly. The murder is bad.

[Inkvisiittori]

No. Inquisitor cant interrupt Sera.

 

I said prevent, not interrupt.

 

Here's a good quote from Tolkien: "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement."