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MEA despite ME3 is still going to be a hit.


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The reason is simple, there is no game like it out there. There are no other scifi rpg out there. Nothing that combines storytelling with galaxy spanning adventure and action like ME games. 

I just hope they make MEA better than ME3 I kinda want more games like this.


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I want 50gb worth of content that'll take us dozens of hours to complete one playthrough.


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That and the game is being released ~5 years after ME3 - there's a whole new generation of gamers Bioware can market to.



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It probably will be.

BioWare weathered the storms of DA2 and ME3 as a changed company, but one that still produces pretty successful games. Maybe more successful than ever.
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Maybe. Conversely Mac Walters could go all Mac Walters with his ideas of art and it end up terrible. There's plenty of room to completely trash the ME universe by moving to Andromeda.


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^Yeah, but that doesn't mean it will not sell 5 million copies and be considered a success.  ME3 despite the controversy was a hit.


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Maybe? I dunno.

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I believe if ever there was an outside chance of a Mass Effect game hitting 10 million sales it's this holiday season because the competition is shocking this year.

 

Cod: ghosts 2 - will still do retarded numbers - but it's the unwanted sequel to the worst of the worst

Gears 4 - exclusive to trailing platform, second rate exclusive

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided - very niche series unfortunately, sells poorly

Watch Dogs 2 - could tank Ubisoft?

Titanfall 2 - multiplatform this time. I suspect this will be the breakout hit this year.

 

Also, no other big budget AAA RPG in sight. Might even be Game Of The Year at this rate. If not 10 mil it certainly it has the potential to eclipse the numbers of any previous release in the series by some margin.


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Probably. 

 

DA:I had a big release, despite following on the heels of DA2.

 

I think Bioware's reputation might be in serious trouble however if the game ends up being a disappointment with fans. After DA2, the ME3 ending controversy, the disastrous release of SWTOR, and the polarizing reaction to DA:I among fans...they need a game that's both a hit commercially and praised by both fans and critics. They seemed to have lost some of their mojo in recent years.

 

The last game they released that was a commercial hit and didn't trigger significant criticism from fans was Mass Effect 2, way back in 2010. That's practically ancient history, by industry standards.


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I loved ME3, yeah its ending sucks, the animation is terrible specifically eye-dotting even by biowares standards and the minial quests are pointless. With that said its still one of my favourite games of all time.


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Controversy isn't necessarily a sign of trouble for games. People complain about BioWare games at length, but people are also interested in BioWare games and some people apparently buy them. A lot of successful franchises have forums full of people people complaining about them. Unsuccessful franchises on the other hand tend to have no one talking about them at all. 


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I think Bioware's reputation might be in serious trouble however if the game ends up being a disappointment with fans.

Reputation is a myth in modern industry. Just take EA and Ubisoft reputation, rectal DRM, 60% of the game in DLCs, constant buggy releases, bunch of other PR failures for each company and guess what? They are doing fine.


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I hope that MEA takes as long as DAI to complete but hopefully without the MMO-style fetch quests. Not that I am completely against them but there needs to be moderation of types of quests that can be done. More variety. 

Also even if there were games that could really compete with MEA on its release the whole point is there is no other games like it. For example Dragon Age competes for the market with the Witcher games and a lot of other sword & magic rpg's, there are tons of mmorpg's which is why SWTOR didn't really get the reception they wanted. But Mass Effect is alone. There is nothing like it. Gears of War doesn't count since its not an rpg even in the slightest. 

And the scary thing is, they probably understand that, both EA and Bioware. That they are basically the only ones providing this product so no matter what fans of scifi wanting to play a cool RPG will come and buy the game. 


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Reputation is a myth in modern industry. Just take EA and Ubisoft reputation, rectal DRM, 60% of the game in DLCs, constant buggy releases, bunch of other PR failures for each company and guess what? They are doing fine.

 

Yeah Ubisoft seems to have been the worst this year with the whole DRM and unfinished(because that is what they were) Assasins Creed games. And the whole "season pack" thing seems to be doing fine no matter how many people complain. Look at Star Wars Battlefront. Or Battlefield 3 and 4, there is so much DLC that you can basically make a whole game out of it. Yes people complain and rage about it but then quite a few of them go and buy the DLC. And we can't really do much about it because it's impossible to organise enough gamers to stop buying DLC so that developers understand that this is not a good practice.

 

Well one developer does understand, creators of Witcher.


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Reputation is a myth in modern industry. Just take EA and Ubisoft reputation, rectal DRM, 60% of the game in DLCs, constant buggy releases, bunch of other PR failures for each company and guess what? They are doing fine.


Well, if you're bad enough you become Konami, give up, and start making pachinko machines instead.
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Well one developer does understand, creators of Witcher.

The fact that they sell Season Passes while being praised by fans shows that they indeed understand how it works.



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The fact that they sell Season Passes while being praised by fans shows that they indeed understand how it works.

 

What I meant was that their DLC are actually worth it. They are not just one mission with extra character tucked in that is quite important to the story(ME3) or alternate looks for the team (ME2), 

I am completely fine with developers charging for something like Leviathan, Citadel or Omega, what I am not ok with is them charging for something like the DAI - spoils of the qunari. Frankly they items are useless. The stats are not high enough and it should have been included with the big DLC like the Trespasser. 


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Controversy is actually a pretty big selling point for games anyway. GTA is probably the best example of this. It's been blamed for various public shootings, Jack Thompson started his crusade because against gaming because of GTA. The last game made headlines for supposedly encouraging violence against women. Despite all of this, it's an absolute behemoth in terms of sales. So much so that other AAA games are a resounding success if they sell even half of what a GTA title does.

 

On a smaller scale you have a game like Hatred. Something that would have flown under the radar and gotten nothing more than a passing mention in most gaming sites/magazines were it not for the censor brigade kicking up a fuss. It quickly became a best seller on steam due to backlash from players who disagree with the aforementioned censor-happy crowd.

 

Apathy is a killer of sales, not controversy.


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Probably.

I believe the game will do well. Time will only tell of how well
 

DA:I had a big release, despite following on the heels of DA2.

Would that be true if it wasn't released for the PS3 and X360?
 

I think Bioware's reputation might be in serious trouble however if the game ends up being a disappointment with fans.

I'm sure EA has a plan of what they will do if the game doesn't do well
 

After DA2, the ME3 ending controversy,

Would DA2 and that ME3 ending controversy of happened if those games were given more time?



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To date I have never captured a game the likes of ME or DA franshise.

 

There are just "critiques" to be made like for any game.

 

The plusses outways the  minusses so much I honestly don't care about the ending of ME3, like the  game  is just that!!  The in between all of a sudden is vanished because of an "bad" ending.

 

The story + gameplay elements is what Bioware  stands for and yes in other games you mostly get one or the other.  For me none other  games rivels Bioware despite not generating blockbuster sales numbers.

 

I am just gratefull they exist and make games I end up playing for hours and hours.


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What do you mean "despite" ME3?

 

ME3 was a really good game, not without its flaws, but the pluses far outweighed the minuses. On the back of that ME:A is standing on a pretty solid foundation as far as I can tell.


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What I meant was that their DLC are actually worth it. They are not just one mission with extra character tucked in that is quite important to the story(ME3) or alternate looks for the team (ME2), 

I am completely fine with developers charging for something like Leviathan, Citadel or Omega, what I am not ok with is them charging for something like the DAI - spoils of the qunari. Frankly they items are useless. The stats are not high enough and it should have been included with the big DLC like the Trespasser. 

 

I agree with this sentiment. I purchased the season pass for TW3 and so far it was great. I paid 25 bucks (not EA 50$) and got two expansion of 10 hours the first one and according to CDPR 20 hours the second one which is about to release. That would be 30 hours worth of top-notch RPG game for 25$. I don't have problem paying for more story content but the content has to be meaningful and rich in plot.

 

I dislike how in DA:I they sold weapons and armors separately from the story content....like spoils of the Avaar....c'mon include the damn thing inside Jaws of Hakkon. I also support less but meaningful story DLCs for ME:A that include new weapons and armors. I'm even fine paying 25$ for each of these expansions provided the quality of the product is high....I know that CDPR develops its game in Poland where the cost of labour is lower so I'm fine with BW DLC being more expensive.

 

I hope one day we will get again fully fledged expansions instead of these tiny DLCs...you can milk the MP crowd with small microtransactions, I'm fine paying more and upfront for a bigger content.


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Lol: "despite".

 

I still play ME3 and I think I'm not the only one.


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The Johnny Cash song Ghost riders in the sky youtube vid has had 2,000,000+ hits since it was used in the trailer. So there's interest.

Playing Inquisition again as a Female Elf Mage romancing Solas, Pro Elf, pro mage, Hates Vivienne, loves Dorian, taken away by blackwall and Cullen and now becoming besties with Cassandra.

They can still do characters and moving moments very well. They can still do environments and atmosphere. They still do borderline soap opera romance. Deliver on those first two things and it should be enough to do reasonably good numbers. Impress the crowd that waits it out the first week or two and they'll outsell ME3.

People are waiting to see if they can make up for that ending and they really want them to succeed.

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The reason is simple, there is no game like it out there. There are no other scifi rpg out there. Nothing that combines storytelling with galaxy spanning adventure and action like ME games.
I just hope they make MEA better than ME3 I kinda want more games like this.


Don't know if that's enough to make it a hit. It's the only reason it's on my radar when all logic says it's going to be mediocre at best.