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[Remix-General Aetius]

As I was checking out the ME wiki to see what names they used for other alien species, I couldn't help but pore through the lore behind those species Javik mentioned in passing. And it got me thinking.

 

The Ark is hardly an original idea, so who's to say other races in previous cycles didn't do the same? Just because, say, the Innusannon disappeared from the Milky Way doesn't mean they're not somewhere else.

 

Personally I don't like mentioning things in passing like they don't matter. The Innusannon, for example, were practically instrumental in the Prothean rise, as their empire was built upon the ruins of the Innusannon. Just because the Protheans were far too crippled to do anything about it doesn't mean other races weren't any luckier. The Leviathans managed to stay hidden, more or less.

 

I think it'd be damn cool to encounter remnants of failed species in Andromeda.

[Chealec]

Remnant confirmed to be Innusannon.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Remnant confirmed to be Innusannon.

 

Nice try, babe, got an IQ of 121. But if Bioware went down that route, I'd love it.

[SolNebula]

Personally nope I'm done with the old triolgy, Reapers, indoctrinations and other legacy of the Milky Way. What we bring with Arks is what should be there from the past anything more will only cheapen our journey to get there and make the galaxy less fresh to explore and inevitably binded by the past events of trilogy.

 

A fresh start is the reason for BW to be on Andromeda, they brought what the fans love (milky way aliens) to make them more accustomed with the new galaxy but I feel that ultimately they want to move on and introduce new elements to this franchise.

[Remix-General Aetius]

A fresh start is the reason for BW to be on Andromeda, they brought what the fans love (milky way aliens) to make them more accustomed with the new galaxy but I feel that ultimately they want to move on and introduce new elements to this franchise.

 

I hope you still feel that way if Cerberus shows up in Andromeda

 

[Heimerdinger]

The problem with arks is this - everyone uses mass effect tech. The one Reapers want you to use. You cant go 3 star systems that way without some serious logistics involving drive discharge. Going to another galaxy...problematic.  Unless you can reverse engineer a reaper FTL drive, but we know reapers don't really lose ships (the old take the Citadel first and isolate the rest tactic) so not many chances to work with it. 

 

This cycle has the remains from Sovereign. Is it enough to reverse engineer the drive? Maybe. The time frame is short though 2183-2186. Are there enough resources for both an Ark and Crucible in 2186? Highly unlikely. We'll just have to wait and see what they do with it. Expect heavy lore butchering.

[SolNebula]

I hope you still feel that way if Cerberus shows up in Andromeda

 

Well if that will be the case then they failed to innovate the franchise, listening to their fans (99% of them against Cerberus) and personally I will be disappointed/losing interest in the game..

[azarhal]

Does it matter? They would have left over 100k years ago at the minimum. That's a very long time in term of social evolution and social memory. The chance they would remember being from outside Andromeda by that point is very slim actually.

[Guanxii]

Does it matter? They would have left over 100k years ago at the minimum. That's a very long time in term of social evolution and social memory. The chance they would remember being from outside Andromeda by that point is very slim actually.

 

The Remnant are long gone. Only ruins remain. If the Remnant were the first milky way refuges to backwards engineer a reaper that would be a pretty neat plot twist. Provided that's where the reaper connection begins and ends. As for why they are now extinct I believe they were probably wiped out by much more advanced species who didn't have reapers in their galaxy to curtail their socio-technological evolution.

[Ahriman]

The Remnant are long gone. Only ruins remain. If the Remnant were the first milky way refuges to backwards engineer a reaper that would be a pretty neat plot twist. Provided that's where the reaper connection begins and ends. 

But how does it help our plot?

[Guanxii]

But how does it help our plot?

It might provide background and context for our own survival as we face the same challenges in Andromeda as they did. Knowing why and how they failed would be useful information to have.

[NM_Che56]

Someone has to be first.

 

After all, we were the first to defeat the Reapers. 

[goishen]

Maybe that's their point.  As species begin to regale other less advanced species, they begin to add in wondrous and not so fully formed elements that they have thought of themselves.  The protheans that came to earth might have had in mind that they should get on a ship and flee, but were too loyal to the empire to do it. 

 

So, they told us a story about an ark.  When, previously, they learned from each preceding cycles that strength was the overcoming factor.

 

Anything's possible.  

[Osena109]

I don't see how a arc ship would work  the  reapers would have chased it down and destroyed it.

[Mcfly616]

We certainly could be the only ones to have managed creating an ark ship. We're the only cycle that got any warning the Reapers were coming. Every other cycle was caught by surprise with the Citadel Relay trap.

[NM_Che56]

I don't see how a arc ship would work  the  reapers would have chased it down and destroyed it.

Here's the thing: a contingent from the Milky Way is migrating to Andromeda.   We'll be in Andromeda along with other races from the Milky Way.  If you look at the N7 2015 trailer, you see a huge ship going from one galaxy to another. 

This kinda kicks the legs out from under this argument. 

 

[Dantriges]

The other civilisations went to other, closer (mini) galaxies with a less catchy name as they didn´t had to consider marketing reasons. Perhaps we meet some in ME: Magellan or so.

[pkypereira]

Here's the thing: a contingent from the Milky Way is migrating to Andromeda.   We'll be in Andromeda along with other races from the Milky Way.  If you look at the N7 2015 trailer, you see a huge ship going from one galaxy to another. 

This kinda kicks the legs out from under this argument. 

 

 

I think Osena109 means if species from the previous cycles tried to run in an ark ship the Reapers would have caught them. Since we were the only cycle that were able to put up a decent fight against the Reapers, it makes sense that previous attempts to send ark ships would have failed as the races of previous cycles were taken by surprise and easily defeated, having no chance of creating an ark contingency.

 

However, some races may have sent arks to other galaxies as a means of exploration and curiosity to what was in other galaxies and not because they were running away from the Reapers. Maybe they could have sent arks before the Reaper invasion. If this were to happen then there could be mass effect technology in Andromeda, possibly even mass relays.

[Ahriman]

I don't see how a arc ship would work  the  reapers would have chased it down and destroyed it.

Ships traveling on FTL are undetectable. That's established in the lore.

[Iakus]

We certainly could be the only ones to have managed creating an ark ship. We're the only cycle that got any warning the Reapers were coming. Every other cycle was caught by surprise with the Citadel Relay trap.

And as the Council demonstrated, that warning was almost completely disregarded.

[Iakus]

Ships traveling on FTL are undetectable. That's established in the lore.

And if it was so easy to build a ship that could traverse galaxies, the Reapers never would have completed a single harvest.

[NM_Che56]

Ships traveling on FTL are undetectable. That's established in the lore.

Also, the Reapers aren't making a perimeter around the entire galaxy.   Considering they were all coming through the same relay, they were probably all congregated in the same area in dark space.  So it's very likely that you could leave the galaxy safely  if you're not exiting at a certain point.  

[DarthSliver]

 

Well  from what I recall the Protheans only lost because of the Citadel trap. From what I recall Protheans gave the Reapers a run for them money by a few centuries because they had good strives in technology. Vigil I think states that the Reapers were still too active in the galaxy for him to start open stasis pods and he had to instead start shutting them down by priority of their races survival once he could open them becuase of power issues. 

[Iakus]

Well  from what I recall the Protheans only lost because of the Citadel trap. From what I recall Protheans gave the Reapers a run for them money by a few centuries because they had good strives in technology. Vigil I think states that the Reapers were still too active in the galaxy for him to start open stasis pods and he had to instead start shutting them down by priority of their races survival once he could open them becuase of power issues. 

 

The Protheans were barely able to slow the Reapers down.  It took over a century to harvest the Protheans only because they were more far-flung than the current cycle and thus, more worlds to harvest.

[Vortex13]

Also, the Reapers aren't making a perimeter around the entire galaxy.   Considering they were all coming through the same relay, they were probably all congregated in the same area in dark space.  So it's very likely that you could leave the galaxy safely  if you're not exiting at a certain point.  

 

 

To add to this, even if the Reapers had a ship for all 100 - 400 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy (they don't, not even close) they still couldn't cover the entire volume of intergalactic space surrounding our galaxy. 

 

As long as said ARK ship was running dark there is no way that the combined Reaper fleet would be able to physically sweep the entire volume of a galaxy which has a diameter of 100,000 light years.