Did you even read the rebuttal to your little post?
I did and I pointed out that building a ship to carry what could be the last thousand individuals of a several species etc. the is not as simple as building a dreadnought like ship. There is a lot riding on the project.
I did and I pointed out that building a ship to carry what could be the last thousand individuals of a several species etc. the is not as simple as building a dreadnought like ship. There is a lot riding on the project.
Apparently not as I said crafting a single vessel to carry a set amount of a single species isn't the same as the proposed venture. If anything its far more feasible, and likely in the proposed time frame.
Hence why I ignored what you wrote in reply, no sense in replying to someone who won't even read what was written.
It is possible. The plot of Mass Effect was that Humans Are Special. We could reverse engineer a Reaper drive and build an ark in 3 years.
Apparently not as I said crafting a single vessel to carry a set amount of a single species isn't the same as the proposed venture. If anything its far more feasible, and likely in the proposed time frame.
Hence why I ignored what you wrote in reply, no sense in replying to someone who won't even read what was written.
What you said is no different its still going to be a relatively large scale project that will still need years of preparation with no room for error.
It is possible. The plot of Mass Effect was that Humans Are Special. We could reverse engineer a Reaper drive and build an ark in 3 years.
Shepard was special, closely followed by TIM. Humanity was nothing special. Your average asari, turian, quarian, etc was better than your average human in terms of cultural and technological achievements.
But they're genetically diverse!Shepard was special, closely followed by TIM. Humanity was nothing special. Your average asari, turian, quarian, etc was better than your average human in terms of cultural and technological achievements.
But they're genetically diverse!
Says who? Mordin? Mordin doesn't know what he's talking about.
Heh you gotta love the BSN. One little thing and they'll launch into a week-long discussion about anything. It's just refreshing compared to other gaming forums where everyone is at each other's throats, like the Battle.net. What a sewer.
This thread is arguing against the game itself.
We were not the first cycle to build the crucible, which means we weren't the first to fight or be warned in advance. Heck dead reaper mission itself would argue there were some pretty big fights going on.
The cycle repeats itself.
We've seen its construction many times.
A splinter group argued we should control the Reapers. They later turned out to be indoctrinated.
The cycle has repeated itself many times.
We did not design the crucible, it has been handed down by successive cycles. Each has added to it.
Everything happens over and over again. The reapers count on predictability and reading the patterns within the cycle.
Even Javik was a Prothean Shepard with his own team.
Since they're handing down Crucibles an ARK isn't a bad second option. In fact its a safe bet that successive cycles have left all kinds of neat doodads behind to play with if you can find them.
BUT seeing as how we're the first to defeat catalyst.
Maybe its the first ship not to be chased down by the Reapers.
Or launched by the citadel relay into dark space and reverse engineered from sovereign. Which makes more sense.
And that's exactly why I made this thread. My curiosity was piqued. This isn't the only cycle smart enough to realize there need to be contingency plans in case things go pear-shaped.
The only way that makes sense to me other than a Deus Ex Machina would be that instead of designing a core that surpasses Reaper tech, they instead just use Reaper tech, from either a Reaper ship like the Troop Transports and Harvesters, a Collector ship, or maybe even from an actual Reaper.
But yeah, if the ship was made after the Reaper War they have all the time in the world to design and build one.
Yeah, design-wise a postwar Ark makes far more sense. Not only will technology have naturally advanced, the galaxy will have heaps of Reaper corpses to poke around in so that they can develop the advanced intergalactic drive.
The problem comes with the motive for the expedition, and how they handle the endings. Maybe the best course of action is to pull a Deus Ex and force a canon, so they can deal with the fallout of the endings as little as they please. ''reapers were reaping, we stopped them from reaping, the end''. Not like that many people are going to clamor for the endings to feature in or influence Andromeda anyway.
Yeah, design-wise a postwar Ark makes far more sense. Not only will technology have naturally advanced, the galaxy will have heaps of Reaper corpses to poke around in so that they can develop the advanced intergalactic drive.
The problem comes with the motive for the expedition, and how they handle the endings. Maybe the best course of action is to pull a Deus Ex and force a canon, so they can deal with the fallout of the endings as little as they please. ''reapers were reaping, we stopped them from reaping, the end''. Not like that many people are going to clamor for the endings to feature in or influence Andromeda anyway.
In my galaxy, there are no heaps of Reaper corpses because my Shepard chose Control. And if you chose Destroy, then you're being ruled by the Leviathans now. ^^
I still think the ark ship is build after the ME3 ending. The ship in the N7 trailer look like it has some kind of crucible device in its core. They don`t have this technik befor ME3. And they definitley not build the original crucible and an ark ship whit a drivecore based on the crucible in the same time (while they don`t know what the crucible is exactly).
I guess ME:A will about 10 years after the thriology... and the game will start in the milky way galaxy.
There is no feasible way such a project could be completed in 2-3 years due to the scale and logistics of such a project. It would take decades if not centuries to complete since there can be no room for error given the project's nature. Then there's the council who basically choose to do nothing with the warnings.
I'm not saying it's a well thought out plot. Anybody who's been here for the last few years knows I think the whole Andromeda/Ark deal is a half-witted cop-out. However, in terms of the ridiculous lore that's already established, it is the most plausible scenario that we are the only cycle to achieve intergalactic travel during the Reaper harvests.
I still think the ark ship is build after the ME3 ending. The ship in the N7 trailer look like it has some kind of crucible device in its core. They don`t have this technik befor ME3. And they definitley not build the original crucible and an ark ship whit a drivecore based on the crucible in the same time (while they don`t know what the crucible is exactly).
I guess ME:A will about 10 years after the thriology... and the game will start in the milky way galaxy.
Personally i don't see any chance of this being the case. If the ark leaves post ending they have to account for endings, especially synthesis.
Says who? Mordin? Mordin doesn't know what he's talking about.
No, Creepenger. How could you forget?
“Quarian; considered due to cybernetic augmentation, weakened immune system too debilitating.”
“Drell; useless, insufficient numbers.”
“Human; viable possibility, aggression factor useful if controlled.”
“Asari; reliance upon alien species for reproduction shows genetic weakness.”
“Salarian; insufficient lifespan, fragile genetic structure.”
“Human; viable possibility, impressive genetic malleability.”
“Geth; an annoyance, limited utility.”
“Human; viable possibility, impressive technical potential.”
“Human; viable possibility, if emotional drives are subjugated.”
“Human; viable possibility, great biotic potential.”
“Krogan; sterilised race, potential wasted.”
“Turian; you are considered...too primitive.”
Ergo with how this is worded would it not be plausible that this race somehow managed to enter andromeda? With an AI and not a vi equipped with supercomputers(how many is unknown but I imagine quite a few) and their journey was said to last 8000 years yet no new information is given on their fate.
Timeline on wiki is a mess if you don't know stories it's based upon. Their fate is known. They got an embassy http://masseffect.wi...#09.2F25.2F2010
ah makes sense, and well that's pretty neat. With how much I delve into lore galore games like TES, ME, witcher etc. I should've know this but oh well could be because it's 5am and my brain is just not having it lolTimeline on wiki is a mess if you don't know stories it's based upon. Their fate is known. They got an embassy http://masseffect.wi...#09.2F25.2F2010
No, Creepenger. How could you forget?
Where are those quotes from? Also, Harbinger is even more clueless about biology than Mordin (human Reaper with three eyes!). Guess the writers didn't ask an expert before they wrote all that dialogue.
Plot twist: the Leviathan are actually from Andromeda and the Reapers and their harvest is a reality show.
That would actually be slightly easier to swallow, as that could allow for the possibility of a mass relay between galaxies, built after the Leviathans arrived (how it remained hidden from the Reapers and everyone else for a billion years would be another question)
That would actually be slightly easier to swallow, as that could allow for the possibility of a mass relay between galaxies, built after the Leviathans arrived (how it remained hidden from the Reapers and everyone else for a billion years would be another question)
The question then would be why did the Leviathan didn't go back to Andromeda when they were hunted by the Reapers. Also, why didn't the Reapers know about the mass relay, if they were built to manage all the affairs for the Leviathan (overlooking and regulating the servant species).
I'm not 100% sure but I remember it being said ingame that the Reapers built the Mass Relays, which means they didn't exist prior to their harvest of the Leviathans. Of course, the Reapers lie (or their statements are turned into lies retroactively because the writers have no consistency), since Sovereign stated they had no creator.
The question then would be why did the Leviathan didn't go back to Andromeda when they were hunted by the Reapers. Also, why didn't the Reapers know about the mass relay, if they were built to manage all the affairs for the Leviathan (overlooking and regulating the servant species).
I'm not 100% sure but I remember it being said ingame that the Reapers built the Mass Relays, which means they didn't exist prior to their harvest of the Leviathans. Of course, the Reapers lie (or their statements are turned into lies retroactively because the writers have no consistency), since Sovereign stated they had no creator.
The Reapers built the Citadel, and the relay network, yes. But that doesn't necessarily mean they invented the tech. I mean, they created indoctrination as a copy of the Leviathan ability to control organics, after all. Maybe the Leviathans had relay tech, but the Reapers expanded on it.
But like I said, there are wrinkles to iron out. Maybe all data of the relay was lost (like what happened to Ilos) maybe it was thought to have been destroyed? Perhaps some Leviathans did escape before knowledge of the relay was lost. And their descendants are the 'Remnants"?
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