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What do we actually know about Templars in Tevinter? All I can recall is that they don't use lyrium - which means they can't dispel magic at all.

I'm not exactly sure what the point of them is - apart, perhaps, from being an armed order of knights at the Imperial Chantry's disposal. 



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They are experienced knigths who know how and what to do, not a mindless fanatics with lyrium and all have lythanies of Andralla against deamons and mindcontroll

 

They are better than south templars, they are like have a seekers level of profesionalism to deal with problems when they are needed and Imperium mages are not needed, and lyrium is useless against those problems what they do, they are not fight against some untrain weak mages like south templars do. but with those who have much knoledges and know blood magic what makes south templars powers useless and only harm themselfs and make them cost to much to have as military forces

 

Mostly they are a profetional soldiers-knights of the Imperium Chantry with knoleges about magic, lythanies of andralla and without a right to "do all what i wanted for the Maker law"

 

Real problems(by Tevinter standarts when south templars and seekers are useless) with mages and deamons are dealed by Tevinter mages themselfs, and they even have a personal magekillers



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We know that they work for the Tevinter Chantry, have likely been trained to fight against magic but do not have the abilities that the lyrium using southern Templars or the spirit touched seekers have. We also know that they are sometimes called into to purge groups of mages that go too far by Tevinter standards, as Ferris noted the line is drawn differently in Tevinter than the south but it does exist and when its crossed then the purges begin.



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They're the personal enforcers of the Magisters when it comes to issues in the Circle of Magi, I believe. 



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We know that they work for the Tevinter Chantry, have likely been trained to fight against magic but do not have the abilities that the lyrium using southern Templars or the spirit touched seekers have. We also know that they are sometimes called into to purge groups of mages that go too far by Tevinter standards, as Ferris noted the line is drawn differently in Tevinter than the south but it does exist and when its crossed then the purges begin.


"Going too far" also seems to include inconveniencing powerful political factions, according to Dorian. He says something about how reformers coincidentally turn out to be maleficarum all along, as soon as they become troublesome.
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They are basically specially trained soldiers that are under the control of the Black Divine and other senior figures in the Magisterium and do their bidding.    I expect they do have techniques for dealing with mages because of being in an environment steeped in magic.   However, given how phased the attackers on Maevaris were by "real" Templars from the south, it is clear the northern Templars are really only trained soldiers and it is the lyrium that makes the difference when it comes to magical negating abilities.    They do not seem to have the equivalent of Seekers in the north as Lambert was on loan from the southern Chantry when he had his experiences there.


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I'd forgotten that Lambert was attached to the Imperial Chantry. Is there any evidence that an Imperial Templar similarly visited the south?

 

I actually have my own pet theory that the 'third man' in gold armour on the front of the little-known graphic novel, 'Dragon Age: Origins',  is a Templar of Tevinter. It was written by Orson Scott Card and Aaron Johnston, and I managed to contact the latter and enter a correspondence with him, as I'd always found the comic series intriguing: it was pulled after it's first series of six issues with many plot threads unsolved - reminds me a bit of Firefly! The reasons for it's demise were undisclosed, though I have my suspicions - and they're not around sales.

Anyway, having had some plot secrets revealed to me by the co-author, I'm convinced that the guy with the vaguely Dragon-like heraldry is an Imperial Templar. Sadly, he was never introduced to the series before it ended.

 

Feast your eyes!

 

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They're trained soldiers that seem to serve as little more than the enforcers of magisters and the Black Divine according to Dorian, though they also hunt abominations when they happen.

Which makes me wonder if we'll be getting the Templar specialization in DA4 at all.

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Which makes me wonder if we'll be getting the Templar specialization in DA4 at all.


Well it depends on how the story plays out. We could have a templar follower from down south, or migrate to somewhere outside of Tevinter, or something like that. If there is a connection to the Inquisition (the actual organization or its remnants), we might be able to learn it that way.

It would be interesting if DAI has no blood mage spec, while DA4 has no templar spec and seeing the return of blood magic (because, Tevinter).

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Maybe the templar spec would be replaced with a magekiller spec. Different flavor from an RP perspective, but possibly similar abilities.
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But the whole point of the templar spec is to negate magic (silence, dispel). Magekillers, as in the comic, are just skilled fighters; they don't have special anti-magic abilities.

 

Let's just take a line that Iron Bull throws out in Haven after you recruit him. He remarks on the Inquisition soldiers and says that Cullen is putting his templar training to good use. You can then ask how he knew he was a templar, and Bull says that Cullen is teaching them a shield technique to direct magical attacks away from the face, which is something that he also learned in training to fight against Tevinter mages. So one can learn certain martial techniques to specifically combat mages, but the templar's actual use comes in their lyrium granted abilities.


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@nightscrawl:  If the Tevinter don't use Templars to negate magic... they must be relying on the spells that negate magic and have mages who specialize in doing so  (or something completely different).

 

I truly hope so... an anti-mage mage is always my favorite type to play. 

 

Of course... the magekillers are fine too... mages in DA are as easy to kill as anyone else with a little poison or an arrow through the back of the head or a knife in your sleep.

 

And of course... a liberal use of the anti-magic rune. 



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They've done non-templar/non-seeker mage suppression before. Tallis' Qunari training had several anti-magic utilities.