Aller au contenu

Photo

Why A Human Protagonist Makes Sense


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
126 réponses à ce sujet

#76
Kabooooom

Kabooooom
  • Members
  • 3 996 messages

Get back to me when your testicles are worth 40,000 credits.

Somebody's making a killing out there.


This is only 10,000 credits per testicle though. Which sounds like a lot, but account for inflation in 2186 and...I think the Krogan might be getting ripped off. And I'm not just talking about their testicles.

#77
ZipZap2000

ZipZap2000
  • Members
  • 5 265 messages

This is only 10,000 credits per testicle though. Which sounds like a lot, but account for inflation in 2186 and...I think the Krogan might be getting ripped off. And I'm not just talking about their testicles.


All I'm hearing here is that your smaller, less numerous and comparatively inefficient testicles aren't worth anything.

Grow a quad pyjack.

#78
Derrame

Derrame
  • Members
  • 196 messages

embrace perfection

 

i don't agree with cerberus, at all, they are monsters, but i do agree with a human protagonist

 

ME:A needs a character (enemy or not) to resemble harbinger, what a great character so charismatic and that voice! one of the things i miss the most of this trilogy



#79
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 806 messages

Almost 16000 is for scrubs =P

 

I know, right? 



#80
Novak

Novak
  • Members
  • 370 messages

So bioware has actually stated something for once on that front

 

http://www.inquisitr...plains-bioware/



#81
DarthSliver

DarthSliver
  • Members
  • 3 335 messages

So bioware has actually stated something for once on that front

 

http://www.inquisitr...plains-bioware/

 

sounds pretty bogus response, many people hoped that since Shepard story is over they would allow Alien race options. Not to mention ME3 MP seem to play on Alien customization a bit. 


  • Hanako Ikezawa aime ceci

#82
Draining Dragon

Draining Dragon
  • Members
  • 5 492 messages
You humans are all racist!

#83
Novak

Novak
  • Members
  • 370 messages

sounds pretty bogus response, many people hoped that since Shepard story is over they would allow Alien race options. Not to mention ME3 MP seem to play on Alien customization a bit. 

 

Well since Mass Effect and especially the new one will be about exploration it kinda makes sense to make it a human story. Nobody cares about the exploration efforts of others. But I got the feeling that this doesn't satisfy you. So look at it like this. To make a convincing narrative like make effect does you would basically need to make a different game of each species then to make it fitting. That's a lot of work and you can't just choose another default species, because then you get a lot of cry babies from multiple parties. "Oh man why not quarian" or "No Krogan again? That sucks!" or "For some ****** reason I want drell!". No that doesn't work might as well choose human since we all have that in common and I suspect the majority of players will choose anyway. (No not the majority on BSN but the Majority of players who play the game overall)


  • sjsharp2011 et Kamal-N7 aiment ceci

#84
In Exile

In Exile
  • Members
  • 28 738 messages

sounds pretty bogus response, many people hoped that since Shepard story is over they would allow Alien race options. Not to mention ME3 MP seem to play on Alien customization a bit. 

 

When you say alien, you mean rubber-forehead alien with culture identical to some IRL historical culture, right? Because that's every single alien in ME, and every non-human in fiction with some rare exceptions. 


  • Hadeedak et Steelcan aiment ceci

#85
Battlebloodmage

Battlebloodmage
  • Members
  • 8 698 messages

It's more relatable to be human and since all of Bioware games with data released often show people play humans the most, so it's more cost efficient to focus on them. Unlike DA, the aliens may require different body and facial animation. Hell, even femShep looks weird with maleShep's animation. I would love to play as a turian above human, but I understand why they choose humans instead. 



#86
VillainQueen

VillainQueen
  • Members
  • 55 messages

I'm fine with having a human protagonist. We'll have to expand the reach of humanity after all. I rather have a cast of other races in my squad than playing one myself. Imagine the animation work they have to do if we get to chose other races and one of two genders for each (aside Asari). The NPC have a base body and animations, for the PC they would have to do so much more. While they did it for DAI they did it before in origin. And yet I rather played as human too. So I'm not salty about it, I rather have good animations for the female PC and not the same we got for the male. Rather they do one thing right than many half assed.



#87
Felya87

Felya87
  • Members
  • 2 960 messages

I would have loved playng as a badass female Turian  :(

Surely the chance to play some of the ME races would have made me more exited for Andromeda. For now, I'm just relatively curious. Whoever will be the new protagonist, it will feel like Shepard 2.0.


  • Hanako Ikezawa aime ceci

#88
Hanako Ikezawa

Hanako Ikezawa
  • Members
  • 29 692 messages

Well since Mass Effect and especially the new one will be about exploration it kinda makes sense to make it a human story. Nobody cares about the exploration efforts of others.

This is objectively wrong. History is full of people caring about the exploration efforts of others. 

 

To make a convincing narrative like make effect does you would basically need to make a different game of each species then to make it fitting.

Also wrong. All the species of Mass Effect are currently in the same position in Andromeda, so the same narrative fits each race.  


  • Lee80 aime ceci

#89
Novak

Novak
  • Members
  • 370 messages

This is objectively wrong. History is full of people caring about the exploration efforts of others. 

 

Also wrong. All the species of Mass Effect are currently in the same position in Andromeda, so the same narrative fits each race.  

 

1. Yes about other people. But the struggle of other species isn't quite as relatable. 

2. Still different, social system is different, priorities are different so on and so forth a lot of work to work in multiples and that wouldn't be money well spent on the publishers part. (Most only make one run with one character)



#90
Hanako Ikezawa

Hanako Ikezawa
  • Members
  • 29 692 messages

1. Yes about other people. But the struggle of other species isn't quite as relatable. 

2. Still different, social system is different, priorities are different so on and so forth a lot of work to work in multiples and that wouldn't be money well spent on the publishers part. (Most only make one run with one character)

1. How do you know? We have had no interactions with other species. The closest we have is different nations, and that has all the same characteristics just on a smaller scale. 

2. Priority is the same: Create a new home in Andromeda. You have no idea what the social system would be. For all you know, and most likely, is that the Milky Way races are working together for their common goal, hence being on the same ship. So they are all a part of the same social system. 


  • BaaBaaBlacksheep aime ceci

#91
Hanako Ikezawa

Hanako Ikezawa
  • Members
  • 29 692 messages
 

But to the extend of a main character with tons and tons of dialog, and then do that like what 6 times or even more if you got female and male for each species. What publisher in their right mind would approve this?

And social interactions and simply the culture of each species would have to be specifically worked out, it's not just the same thing with another skin on top. And if they did it would be as convincing as caitlyn jenner

Bioware again has done this on more than one occasion. 

The culture will be changed since the situation is changed. Plus they can do what DAI did where you get a special dialogue option to express how that race would think in certain situations. 

Considering many people are very convinced that Caitlyn Jenner is a woman, that's a good sign. 



#92
Novak

Novak
  • Members
  • 370 messages

1. How do you know? We have had no interactions with other species. The closest we have is different nations, and that has all the same characteristics just on a smaller scale. 

2. Priority is the same: Create a new home in Andromeda. You have no idea what the social system would be. For all you know, and most likely, is that the Milky Way races are working together for their common goal, hence being on the same ship. So they are all a part of the same social system. 

Yea, have you ever been to asia? Vastly different. And that would increase more than ten fold if you go to other species. Yes some of the core priorities are the same but it's the little things that make it seem somewhat real. And those would need to be different. You'd have the main missions which are the same but many other things if they were the same, I wouldn't buy it. Also try fitting that in the epic story narrative. Sure works theoretically but practically not the same impact. Core believes and traits are also not simply changed, and if they were it wouldn't be cool since the distinctions between the races just fall behind.

 

How about we call it a day, nobody is going to change their respective opinion on this. 



#93
Hanako Ikezawa

Hanako Ikezawa
  • Members
  • 29 692 messages

Yea, have you ever been to asia? Vastly different. And that would increase more than ten fold if you go to other species. Yes some of the core priorities are the same but it's the little things that make it seem somewhat real. And those would need to be different. You'd have the main missions which are the same but many other things if they were the same, I wouldn't buy it. Also try fitting that in the epic story narrative. Sure works theoretically but practically not the same impact.

 

How about we call it a day, nobody is going to change their respective opinion on this. 

The scenario is not really equivalent, and fits more if we were playing as one of the native Andromeda races. In Mass Effect: Andromeda, there is only one society for the Milky Way races: that of the ship. So a better example would be say an aircraft carrier, where while there is a diversity of people most of the things about their lives are the same since they are all part of the ship's society. 

 

Yeah, until we know more about the mission we can't really say any more. 



#94
DarthSliver

DarthSliver
  • Members
  • 3 335 messages

Yea, have you ever been to asia? Vastly different. And that would increase more than ten fold if you go to other species. Yes some of the core priorities are the same but it's the little things that make it seem somewhat real. And those would need to be different. You'd have the main missions which are the same but many other things if they were the same, I wouldn't buy it. Also try fitting that in the epic story narrative. Sure works theoretically but practically not the same impact. Core believes and traits are also not simply changed, and if they were it wouldn't be cool since the distinctions between the races just fall behind.

 

How about we call it a day, nobody is going to change their respective opinion on this. 

 

Well I feel the fault of Mass Effect was following one protagonist through three games and it wasn't that idea that was bad it was that Bioware didn't make choices matter to a noticable degree. They were too focused and bringing in a new fanbase with each installment. They ultimately didn't fulfill the promise and point of the series so I feel they should go the route the DA team goes and new protagonist each game. This would allow them a easier time to have race option in Mass Effect. Frankly I don't know if I want to follow the same protagonist for three games only to have it end in misery like ME3 ending. 

 

As for the race option they should do a poll and do the popular 2 races with human. But the options would obviously be limited to the famous combat races,which are Human, Asari, Turian, Quarian, and Krogan. 



#95
straykat

straykat
  • Members
  • 9 196 messages

Well I feel the fault of Mass Effect was following one protagonist through three games and it wasn't that idea that was bad it was that Bioware didn't make choices matter to a noticable degree. They were too focused and bringing in a new fanbase with each installment. They ultimately didn't fulfill the promise and point of the series so I feel they should go the route the DA team goes and new protagonist each game. This would allow them a easier time to have race option in Mass Effect. Frankly I don't know if I want to follow the same protagonist for three games only to have it end in misery like ME3 ending. 

 

As for the race option they should do a poll and do the popular 2 races with human. But the options would obviously be limited to the famous combat races,which are Human, Asari, Turian, Quarian, and Krogan. 

 

I just think they should have done it right. I don't think they need to do Dragon Age. That sucks even more, the way it's been done.

 

But I agree they tried too hard at "being a new game for new players" with each installment.



#96
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 806 messages

As for the race option they should do a poll and do the popular 2 races with human. But the options would obviously be limited to the famous combat races,which are Human, Asari, Turian, Quarian, and Krogan. 

 

It's a fair guess that the only aliens to make the cut would be turians and asari, if they ever made the option to start with. It would certainly be the most efficient combo in terms of the sheer amount of voiceover needed. 



#97
LPPrince

LPPrince
  • Members
  • 54 883 messages

Normality is over-rated, embrace the weirdness son. Also pfft 16,000 posts, chump change, come back to me when you compare it to LPPrince's e-peen. Perhaps now that the OT section has been taken out back and shot someone here will finally over take him. Sh*t-post at will folks.

 

 

I'd be posting more often if there was anything to talk about but considering there isn't...

 

*shrugs*

 

I'm only here all the time because a tab's always open to this place. I'm rarely if ever around for anything but the rare personal message.



#98
SlottsMachine

SlottsMachine
  • Members
  • 5 529 messages

You're terribly serious Novak, can we be friends? Come on I'll grow on ya, I'm not the worst here. ;)  If you spend a few years on BSN all of these bizarre threads won't even phase you anymore. I've seen weirder requests, you'll build up a unique tolerance for it all. Who knows maybe even a greater contempt for your fellow fans, this place is magical. 

 

I suppose another option would be to develop some deviant tastes of your own. Personally, I'm now fascinated by corpses and am also attracted to fishmen. Haven't got around to creating threads about it though.



#99
Atomkick

Atomkick
  • Members
  • 329 messages

Obviously a human protagonist makes sense because the trilogy was fairly based on humanity's growth in the galaxy(ME1, becoming a Spectre was the first step). Later in the story after defeating Sovereign(Alliance Fleet also played a major role in here), humans became so important that the Reapers perceived humans as a bigger threat than any other species which explains why ONLY humans were abducted by the Collectors in ME2(they were even building a Human Reaper on their base, HOLY ****) and Reaper's FIRST attack on Earth in ME3. Not only those but many other like curing the genophage, saving the rachni, peace between krogan-turian and geth-quarian. All this shows us the capability of humans and the impact of humanity over the galaxy. These accomplishments became possible through Commander Shepard, a human that we play as in the trilogy and of course, with the help of his/her alien crew as well.

 

Keeping that in mind... If ME:A is going to have even a little connection with the decisions that we chose in trilogy(definitely there is a connection IMO) then all of this would make sense on playing as a human again. Otherwise, a human protagonist just because we are humans lol. I also like the idea of playing as another species in single-player but that will change my view of Mass Effect universe from story perspective. So yeah, human protagonist makes more sense to me.

 

Maybe it is possible actually.

Spoiler

Something similar in ME:A with the side quests or maybe even main quest(s) related would be nice to make us all happy.


  • Kimarous et DarthSliver aiment ceci

#100
Halfdan The Menace

Halfdan The Menace
  • Members
  • 2 295 messages
Human the real supreme master race always been the coolest characters of all time.

Tribute song for humans


Viking
Spoiler


Roman
Spoiler


Samurai
Spoiler


Mongols
Spoiler