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Why I believe Anora still runs Gwaren


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At the end of Origins, if Anora is Queen with either the Warden or Alisdair as consort, she still normally runs Gwaren as Teyrna.

 

If Alistair rules alone, he imprisons the Dowager Queen and can grant Gwaren to the Warden if he requests riches and power as a boon. However, we know the Warden departs Ferelden on his long quest, so it would be normal to appoint a steward in his absence to kep things ticking over (we know for a fact that he relinquished control of the Grey Warden Arldom of Amaranthine to another Warden Commander). For Gwaren, I suggest that Anora would be the ideal individual to take up the reigns, given her knowledge and connections with the territory.

 

Even if it isn't awarded to the Warden, we never hear of its fate. Alistair would be within his rights to strip it from Anora due to her father's treachery, but I don't think that's his style, as indicated by his treatment of her. I suspect she would be left with the tile, thus becoming one of the most powerful heiresses in Thedas.

 

What I'm saying is that Bioware don't have to worry too much about continuity with Gwaren: Anora can be ruling it whatever happens - either as Queen and Teryna, Dowager Queen and Teryna, or Steward to the Hero of Ferelden, Teryn of Gwaren.

 

Simples!



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I certainly hope this is the case, and it's definitely my headcanon. Especially in the world state where my Warden married Alistair - she didn't really want to make an enemy of Anora in the first place, and was hoping she could mollify her a little by making her a powerful Teryna.



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No. She's a book clerk in my game.

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ShadowLordXII

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Is it confirmed if Anora lives on if she's ousted as queen?

 

Either wise, I can see her getting stripped of her inheritance and title for refusing to yield to the Landsmeet's authority or for renouncing her claim to the throne (a claim that was weak anyway as she had no royal blood)


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Is it confirmed if Anora lives on if she's ousted as queen?

Either wise, I can see her getting stripped of her inheritance and title for refusing to yield to the Landsmeet's authority or for renouncing her claim to the throne (a claim that was weak anyway as she had no royal blood)


Strip the daughter of a war hero of the very rights, lands and wealth he gained in service to the crown and passed on to his popular heir...I doubt it. Rebellions start for less.

Plus I doubt the Landsmeet has the power to strip nobility of their houses.

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Alistair was always hardened and king in my games and I always assumed he executed her or arranged an accident involving several flights of stairs. That or his new queen did. ~shrug~


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Pretty sure this annoying broad is living in another country in my continuity, riches or not.


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Not in my games since she is to busy to be the Queen, Gwaren was left to my warden who married her and i suppose that in those years of DAI it was left to some trusted seneschal

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The HoF can be the Teyrna/Teyrn of Gwaren, if they request a title and wealth as their boon.

That still remain in headcanon territory since we never saw Gwaren and the Warden never went there.

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ThePhoenixKing

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Simply put. there's no way Anora would remain in control of Gwaren if Alistair is King. Remember that, above all else, Anora wants the throne over Ferelden, and at several points throughout Origins, she's willing to betray others, including her own father, if it gets her closer to that goal. She even straight up tells Eamon that she won't swear loyalty to Alistair, and even if she did, could she really be trusted to hold to that oath?

 

Second, Gwaren is simply too powerful to be put into the hands of anyone who's not loyal to Alistair. Not only could Anora raise men to fight him from there, because the only real land route is through the Brecilian Passage (anything else either being too rugged to move an army through and/or overrun with monsters), it's very defensible. Having control of Gwaren would allow Anora a chance to become a threat again, and if only to avoid civil war, Alistair would never let that happen.

 

Third, if there's any organized rebellion against Alistair's rule, it's clear that Anora would be a part of it in some fashion. Even if she doesn't personally kick things off, she represents a genuine threat to Alistair's authority, and such rebels would try to seek her out regardless. She'd be a focal point, "the rightful ruler deposed by the bastard Prince", a symbol they could rally behind. Why give them the chance to do so?

 

If anything, I'd wager that Alistair gives Gwaren to a loyal supporter, and one that's lost his lands in the Blight, to further solidify the friendship between them.


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My warden wouldn't allow Alistair to rule a nug pin so, he/she has him to marry Anora.



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GoldenGail3

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My warden wouldn't allow Alistair to rule a nug pin so, he/she has him to marry Anora.


..... Looks at canon. Looks back. My King Alistair rules with my Cousland? So all is well, probaly.

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AedanStarfang

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Alistair was always hardened and king in my games and I always assumed he executed her or arranged an accident involving several flights of stairs. That or his new queen did. ~shrug~

Sounds like this particular scenario could have taken place in Orlais...of course if it did disposing  deposing of a Queen would be much easier what with the grand game and all ;) 



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My prince consort is the Teyrn of Gwaren.

Also the Warden-Commander of Ferelden, Arl of Amaranthine, and brother to the Teryn of Highever. And the queen's husband.

Or so I prefer to believe. :)

But yeah, he's probably gone on his quest, so...