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[dragonbif]

ME3 spoiler, if you have not finished yet.

 

At the end of ME3 you have 4 options that will change everything. I take it because 2 of the 4 really change everything so those are not going to be used in Andromeda and so we are left with 2 other options. I take it BioWare is going to chose which one was picked for us making our choice at the end of ME3 pointless. Not that it matters much, I went back and did all 4 within the first 2 weeks of release. Oh, and I find the 4th option on my first ending which shocked me a bit because I was goofing off and didn't expect it.

 

If you are wandering what the choices I am talking about are, here is the list and my take on them:

 

1) Take control of the Reapers. The boy tells you that you can control the Reapers and they will do what you say but your body will be destroyed. To me, only Shepard's body is gone but the mind or intelligence is just transfigured. Not sure where but Shepard should still be around. Being that the Reapers are still around rebuilding the travel infrastructure would be a snap.

 

2) Destroy the Reapers. Shepard just dies in this case. It will also take forever for long distance travel to be put back into place. This is one of the two that would not be used in Andromeda.

 

3) Shepard merges with the catalyst. I would think Shepard would still exist in one form or another. The fact that Shepard would merge with something else would imply the existence would continue but in what form is the question. Just like controlling the Reapers the infrastructure could be rebuilt quickly. I would think this option would be the best for Andromeda as it gives them the most options and it would be interesting to see Reapers helping out. Also, the Reapers have experience traveling in deep space.

 

4) Don't pick any of the first 3, just shoot the kid. This option will defiantly not be used as the Reapers wipe out everyone and the next intelligent life forms find the Liara boxes with the information on them and are able to defeat the Reapers because of it.

 

 

Anyone have any ideas how BioWare is going to handle this? I personally think #3 is what they are going to do.

[Novak]

Look up the Ark theory. Basically circumvents the endings with the idea that they launched the mission before ME3 ended so it wouldn't affect them. We have some evidence for that as well as sense because they probably don't want to properly address what happened to the milky way and so on. Truth be told I'm not a fan of this, doesn't seem like closure to me (some disagree I know) but seems like Bioware is heading that direction.

 

Welcome to the fun house btw. 

[ArabianIGoggles]

If they were to make an ending choice canon it most likely wouldn't be synthesis.  

[Rascoth]

I take it BioWare is going to chose which one was picked for us

Everything but that. Please.

[LightningPoodle]

Simplest way to do it, leave it ambiguous. Why do the people we will be interacting with, people in a new Galaxy, have to know what happened to the Milky Way? Short answer, they don't. They don't need to know. It doesn't affect them in the slightest. It's happening billions of light years away. Our protagonist, doesn't need to know, much less care. They are never going to see the Milky Way again. Just leave it ambiguous. If you must reference it, do it through rumour alone.

[wright1978]

Simplest way to do it, leave it ambiguous. Why do the people we will be interacting with, people in a new Galaxy, have to know what happened to the Milky Way? Short answer, they don't. They don't need to know. It doesn't affect them in the slightest. It's happening billions of light years away. Our protagonist, doesn't need to know, much less care. They are never going to see the Milky Way again. Just leave it ambiguous. If you must reference it, do it through rumour alone.

 

Disagree leaving it ambiguous would be terrible. The andromeda expedition needs a backstory.

Amateurs have managed to create theories to accomodate an ark prior to the end of me3. There's no reason professional writers can't create a compelling one.

[Battlebloodmage]

Making an ending canon would go against artistic integrity and EDI's camel. 

 

If there were a canon ending, it would likely to be Destroy since it's the ending required the most efforts, ending where Shepard lives, ending where most people choose, and an ending that gives the most closure and maintain original forms rather than a mixture of robotic and human or space God. 

 

I doubt they would choose an ending since it would defeat the entire reason why they run away to Andromeda. It's not the ME people that run away, it's the developers running away from the fan mobs by building a spaceship and run away millions of lightyears away where the fans can't reach them.

[KingofTime]

Make destroy canon or dont bother with the OT ever again, leave it in the bin where it rightfully belongs.

[xAmilli0n]

If they were to make an ending choice canon it most likely wouldn't be synthesis.  

 

I think it would be interesting to see them pick one of the worse endings, like low EMS destroy. Be all like "S*** happens, time to gtfo of the Milky Way."

[Ascari]

Why not retcon the endings and make them all canon

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

No... the worst ending possible.

 

"I fight for freedom, mine and everyone's. I fight for the right to choose our own fate. And if I die, I'll die knowing that I did everything I could to stop you. And I'll die free."

 

"So be it. The cycle continues."

 

Hackett: "What the ****? The Crucible.... Shepard failed.... execute project Arkcon! .... Get the hell out of here!"

[Mummy22kids]

I think Andromeda will start well before the end of ME3 (I think late ME1-early ME2) so there will be no record of the ending, since those on the Ark will be long gone before the end of the reaper war.  I more and more believe that it will be after Shepard dies- in the 2 years she was dead before being reanimated by Cerberus.  hat means Bio can ignore the endings and give a codex entry with Shepard as dead (since technically she would be when the Ark leaves) and have a clean break from the old games.

[xAmilli0n]

Why not retcon the endings and make them all canon

 

The multiverse approach....why the hell not?

 

No... the worst ending possible.

 

"I fight for freedom, mine and everyone's. I fight for the right to choose our own fate. And if I die, I'll die knowing that I did everything I could to stop you. And I'll die free."

 

"So be it. The cycle continues."

 

Hackett: "What the ****? The Crucible.... Shepard failed.... execute project Arkcon! .... Get the hell out of here!"

 

I like it. Bioware, make it so!

[LinksOcarina]

Disagree leaving it ambiguous would be terrible. The andromeda expedition needs a backstory.

Amateurs have managed to create theories to accomodate an ark prior to the end of me3. There's no reason professional writers can't create a compelling one.

 

This presumes you consider the ARK theory to be good in the first place. 

[Mistic]

This presumes you consider the ARK theory to be good in the first place. 

 

It isn't? As far as theories go, it solves practically every problem Bioware may have and it would be a perfect starting point for newcomers. So it's not just that it may be narratively desirable, but it would be desirable from a purely game-developing point of view.

[Balsam Beige]

I think Andromeda will start well before the end of ME3 (I think late ME1-early ME2) so there will be no record of the ending, since those on the Ark will be long gone before the end of the reaper war.  I more and more believe that it will be after Shepard dies- in the 2 years she was dead before being reanimated by Cerberus.  hat means Bio can ignore the endings and give a codex entry with Shepard as dead (since technically she would be when the Ark leaves) and have a clean break from the old games.

"Codex entry with Shepard as dead." and "ignore the endings".

I could get on board with this.

[AutumnRose]

Control ending.

But we are actually indoctrinated and we go to purge andromeda as reapers.

[OutlawJT]

Either the Andromeda expedition leaves before the end of ME3 (my money's on between mid-ME2 and beginning of ME3 if they go this route) or it leaves a century or more later so the ending results of ME3 could have normalized so whatever did happen can safely be referred to ambiguously. Given the scale of destruction in the galaxy regardless of ending choice it's reasonable to assume that accurate records of the war no longer exist.

[CronoDragoon]

The entire point of going to Andromeda is to not use any of ME3's endings. Otherwise, they'd just pick an ending and stay in the Milky Way.

[HSomCokeSniper]

Going to Andromeda makes no sense whatsoever anyways. At least without some serious explaining so I don't think the endings matter all that much.

I'm more interested in their reasons for leaving in the first place.

[BennyORWO]

Going to Andromeda makes no sense whatsoever anyways. At least without some serious explaining so I don't think the endings matter all that much.

I'm more interested in their reasons for leaving in the first place.

The reasons of leaving,is the fear to lose the war against Reaper,and so,destruction of all species.

What if,when they discovered the plans of Crucible on Mars,they also found the plan for the ARK,and use for backup in case they lose the war?

[N7M]

The Andromeda mission could return to the Milky Way at some point and confront the dodged end state chosen by the player for the first trilogy. Escalation not canonization. 

[7twozero]

They've already said there's no canon ending to me3

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The reasons of leaving,is the fear to lose the war against Reaper,and so,destruction of all species.

What if,when they discovered the plans of Crucible on Mars,they also found the plan for the ARK,and use for backup in case they lose the war?

If that's what they go with, I lose all faith in them as writers since that is a terrible idea. The Mars Archive has already been a dual Deus Ex Machina, so having it get a DEM hat trick is ridiculous. 

[Chardonney]

I'm pretty sure BioWare is not going to address the stupid endings in any way and - in my opinion - that's the way it should be.

 

2) Destroy the Reapers. Shepard just dies in this case. It will also take forever for long distance travel to be put back into place. This is one of the two that would not be used in Andromeda.

 Not true in high EMS destroy. This is a really old news but...

 

BioWare’s Tully Ackland: Shepard is alive.

"You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together."