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OK, so I was discussing this with someone, and we were thinking.

 

In Mass Effect 3, we were given the three options: red, green or blue control, synthesis or destroy. All which have a big effect on the Galaxy. Two of which involve Reapers walking around, and one were everyone is a synth.

 

Mass Effect: Andromeda is going to be set way after ME3. So we thought; which one is going to be cannon?

 

Now, we could be wrong, and Bioware will probably make a Dragon Age Keep kind of thing (which would be awesome). But think about it.

 

If we chose synthesis, will the protagonist be green? If we chose control (or possibly synthesis) will there be Reapers walking about? Destroy really has no effect.

 

And just as I'm writing this it occured to me: there is the refusal/ trying to shoot star brat option. WTF happens then?

 

Or I could be completely wrong and they've announced it already.

 

But I thought that's a good topic to discuss so.. yeah. Please be friendly!



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If they leave before the crucible fires none of those endings count for anyone outside the MW.

Which is probably the whole point.
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If they leave before the crucible fires none of those endings count for anyone outside the MW.

Which is probably the whole point.

This.

My theory is they left MW beferore ending...this explains N7 day video,which Shepard talk to the next protagonist.



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This.
My theory is they left MW beferore ending...this explains N7 day video,which Shepard talk to the next protagonist.


I had thought the same thing about the video. But turns out Bioware didn't mean it that way. Or so they say.

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This.

My theory is they left MW beferore ending...this explains N7 day video,which Shepard talk to the next protagonist.

That would actually make sense. Would also save bioware a lot of time and money.



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I personally doubt there will be canon ending.



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I had thought the same thing about the video. But turns out Bioware didn't mean it that way. Or so they say.

If BW didn't mean that way...then what was the purpose of the video?To me is very clearly:Shepard talks to the next protagonist,just before the final Reaper War.The next protagonist reach the Andromeda wouldn't know what happen in MW.And there so,there will not be a cannon ending,and everbody will be happy.



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If BW didn't mean that way...then what was the purpose of the video?To me is very clearly:Shepard talks to the next protagonist,just before the final Reaper War.The next protagonist reach the Andromeda wouldn't know what happen in MW.And there so,there will not be a cannon ending,and everbody will be happy.

Shepard isn't saying farewell to the new protagonist, they are saying farewell to the player. 

 

And leaving before the endings won't make me or quite a few others happy, so no everyone will not be happy. 



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If BW didn't mean that way...then what was the purpose of the video?To me is very clearly:Shepard talks to the next protagonist,just before the final Reaper War.The next protagonist reach the Andromeda wouldn't know what happen in MW.And there so,there will not be a cannon ending,and everbody will be happy.


You're preaching to the choir here on that.

It was apparently Shepard passing the torch to you the player and the new protag. Which makes the whole thing pointless.

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That's what the person I was talking to was saying. Bioware probably just wants to leave ME3 alone and never speak of it again! xD



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OK, so I was discussing this with someone, and we were thinking.

 

In Mass Effect 3, we were given the three options: red, green or blue control, synthesis or destroy. All which have a big effect on the Galaxy. Two of which involve Reapers walking around, and one were everyone is a synth.

 

Mass Effect: Andromeda is going to be set way after ME3. So we thought; which one is going to be cannon?

 

Now, we could be wrong, and Bioware will probably make a Dragon Age Keep kind of thing (which would be awesome). But think about it.

 

If we chose synthesis, will the protagonist be green? If we chose control (or possibly synthesis) will there be Reapers walking about? Destroy really has no effect.

 

And just as I'm writing this it occured to me: there is the refusal/ trying to shoot star brat option. WTF happens then?

 

Or I could be completely wrong and they've announced it already.

 

But I thought that's a good topic to discuss so.. yeah. Please be friendly!

For Synthesis, just have the circuits fade in time so they look the same as the other endings. Maybe have all people on the trip get cybernetic implants, like the Quarians do.

For the Reapers, have them stay in the Milky Way if they are still alive. 

Treat Refuse the same way they treated Shepard dying at the end of Mass Effect 2. 

There, issues dealt with without needing a canon ending. 



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For Synthesis, just have the circuits fade in time so they look the same as the other endings. Maybe have all people on the trip get cybernetic implants, like the Quarians do.

For the Reapers, have them stay in the Milky Way if they are still alive. 

Treat Refuse the same way they treated Shepard dying at the end of Mass Effect 2. 

There, issues dealt with without needing a canon ending. 

But then that's the issue; laziness. Some fans probably won't mind, but then there's the "Our choices don't matter," situation.



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But then that's the issue; laziness. Some fans probably won't mind, but then there's the "Our choices don't matter," issue.

It's less lazy than ignoring them completely by having them leave before or during the Reaper War. As for choices not mattering, there could still be Codex entries and a few conversations that are different depending on what ending occurred so they still influence the game thus matter. 


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"Cannon" ending? Yeah... :rolleyes:

 


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It's less lazy than ignoring them completely by having them leave before or during the Reaper War. As for choices not mattering, there could still be Codex entries and a few conversations that are different depending on what ending occurred so they still influence the game thus matter. 

True. As I said before, they are probably trying to get away from Mass Effect 3.

But I have to admit, it would be cool for the protagonist to have glowing circuits under their skin. :)



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"Cannon" ending? Yeah... :rolleyes:

 

I want one.



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Holy crap, I didn't expect this to take off so fast!



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Andromeda galaxy was probably used to escape canon ending in the first place. So there won't be no canon ending for sure.



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For Synthesis, just have the circuits fade in time so they look the same as the other endings. Maybe have all people on the trip get cybernetic implants, like the Quarians do.

For the Reapers, have them stay in the Milky Way if they are still alive. 

Treat Refuse the same way they treated Shepard dying at the end of Mass Effect 2. 

There, issues dealt with without needing a canon ending. 

 

But... trivializing something like Synthesis into some fading tattoos is even worse than ignoring the ending entirely,

ironically it underlines the fact that choices didn't matter even more...


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If there was ever to be a canon ending, I'm guessing that it would be destroy, it takes care of all the loose ends without leaving an immortal army of machine gods floating around without any real purpose or direction.

 

As for the ending that works best with ME:A, it mostly depends on when the "Ark" left.

If they left before the end, than it will remain a mystery.

 

However, it could also work with a refuse ending, the Ark initiative being a one last desperate plan due to the failure of the crucible.


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For Andromeda itself they have a very clear way to go,they simply leave before the events of ME3. Its simple, easy way of completely ignoring the endings and yet still making them all "relevant". 

However if they will ever want to develop a sequel to ME3 that is set in the Milky way galaxy they will have to canonise Destroy in some form because it presents the least amount of problems from the storytelling point of view. 

Another way would be for them to rewrite the ending of ME3 completely. Make the first mission of ME4(or 5 if you think MEA is 4) to be the last mission of ME3, Can preserve pretty much everything up to the "run into the teleport beam" part of it. 


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But... trivializing something like Synthesis into some fading tattoos is even worse than ignoring the ending entirely,
ironically it underlines the fact that choices didn't matter even more...


Best to avoid the whole thing by leaving early. My guess is in the two years that Shepard is dead.

At which point the following scenario's become canon when playing from MCs perspective. They don't know what you do.


Milky Way is safe, all is well.

Reapers never even showed up.

Shepard never ascended to near godhood.

The Geth are evil machines who attacked the citadel. The Hero of the Citadel was later KIA, no biggie.

Council choice inconsequential.

All Krogan have the Genophage.

Quarians stay in their suits having never lived on Rannoch.

Asari reliance on Prothean beacon remains hidden.

No "The Shepard."

No Crucible.

No Catalyst.

No endings.

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But... trivializing something like Synthesis into some fading tattoos is even worse than ignoring the ending entirely,

ironically it underlines the fact that choices didn't matter even more...

How does having something minimized but still affect things like the Codex and some conversations make the choice matter less than throwing the choice away? 



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But... trivializing something like Synthesis into some fading tattoos is even worse than ignoring the ending entirely,

ironically it underlines the fact that choices didn't matter even more...

 

Agree trivializing would be much worse choice than ignoring the ending or even canonising.



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Whichever ending managed to kill Liara is most welcome canon ending for me.


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