I see it as a fault when said leaders have conspicuously dropped all pretense of actually carrying out the Order's mandate. "Just following orders" can only go so far.
Indeed and that is a fault in the templars, it's pretty clear also from the events in DA2 with Meredith, Lambert in the book, and the Knight Commander in Cassandra's movie that the order, but also the chantry, is not very good at questioning authority. But this is a human fault and not a plot hole.
But this is a human fault and not a plot hole.
True.
Except for the fact that Denam will be completely transformed into a Behemoth by the time you close the Breach with the mages. So yes, it can corrupt that fast. Also, it was established in Cassandra's quest that Seekers have a high resistance to red lyrium, and are thus deemed unsuitable for red lyrium corruption. It also shows that they can be corrupted physically in their blood somehow as Daniel states. So not only should Cassandra not be red-eyed, but they should have corrupted her with whatever they did to Daniel.
They all would have been exposed to red lyrium immediately after being captured. But the real question is why they were allowed to keep their armor and weapons.
Ugh, it's worse than I thought! In the other games they have you crawl around the castle looking for chests where they stored your armor and weapons. This should obviously be the case with your companions.
A small line like "we were only captured a mere week ago" to explain why the lyrium hasn't completely destroyed them yet would've sufficed.
But that's totally useless. Because they could all become abominations, then just massacre the meatsuits, and then you have an army of demons overrun templars.
A circle is a totally useless building if it does nothing but provide a central base of operations for a demon army, sorrounded by a group of meatsuits who have no ability whatsoever to fight them.
Well templars are equipped to fight them, however. Templars are able to smite - to counter abominations and magic-users.
And I don't think abominations and spirits are so crafty as to be able to secretly possess everyone without manifesting earlier and alerting non-possessed templars to their infiltration and getting smited. As we understand the face, spirits are impatient and eager to manifest. A few cases like Wilmod, but...
Also awesome Cole introduction! I like recruiting the mages though. And Dorian. It's a though one.
Yeah I enjoy both quests although I've done the templar one more than the mage one. I think both quests are done well. i just pick what my character I'm RP'ing would do.
^ Perhaps "personal" isn't the correct word in that instance. While I agree about Envy, I think IHW is more... heartbreaking perhaps? because of Alexius and why he's doing it. Alexius was a great man once, and he fell very far after a tragedy in his life. My Inquisitor really can't be pissed at Alexius for trying to kill him. The whole thing just comes across as too pathetic to allow that.
That's just my perspective, of course.
I agree. Alexius was the best antagonist in the game, IMO, followed by Calpernia. Must be the mage leadership which makes an antagonist appealing
I haven't read all answers, so sorry if I am repeating someone. As I recall from playing DA2, Bartrand became crazy in act 2, which is three years after they found the lyrium idol. The events in future Redcliff took place just one year forward, which could explain why the companions were not as mentally muddled. Add to that the fact that their willpower was probably a lot stronger than Bartrand's. Some might argue that Bartrand became immediately crazed the minute he touched the idol, but he seemed lucid to me, and him acting so greedily was hardly that much out of character. Also, Hawke touched the idol for about the same amount of time and was not affected.
So I would guess that the effects of the lyrium is dependent on length of exposure, proximity (and whether or not you ingest it) and the character's strength of will.
Do I think it could have been shown better, or the plot better crafted? Yes. Do I think that this makes the quest impossible to enjoy? Absolutely not, it's fascinating to see what Corypheus' world would look like (although I'm admittedly wary of time-travel in general).
I think Bartrand had the idol for a few years when we saw him, so it had longer to affect him. Same with Meredith. Future!Redcliffe is just one year in the future, right? So maybe red lyrium madness takes a while.
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