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[ExoGeniVI]

[straykat]

Shepard never died to begin with, if you chose Destroy and didn't suck (which isn't hard).

 

Even a developer called high ems destroy the "Shepard Lives" ending.

[Lady Artifice]

Oh, brother.

[Draining Dragon]

Oh look, a thread about the ME3 ending. This takes me back.

[prosthetic soul]

Shepard never died to begin with, if you chose Destroy and didn't suck (which isn't hard).

 

Even a developer called high ems destroy the "Shepard Lives" ending.

It's a Schrodinger's Cat at best and a headcanoner's wet dream at worst. 

 

If you need to tell the player that something happened in the ending, rather than show it, than the HIGH EMS ending didn't do its job. In other words, Shepard may have technically lived according to the word of God but it doesn't really matter in the long run because he may as well be dead for all intents and purposes.

[straykat]

It's a Schrodinger's Box at best and a headcanoner's wet dream at worst. 

 

If you need to tell the player that something happened in the ending, rather than show it, than the HIGH EMS ending didn't do its job. In other words, Shepard may have technically lived according to the word of God but it doesn't really matter in the long run because he may as well be dead regardless. 

 

It did show it. Breath scene.

 

It's pointless to show something like that, only to make Shep die seconds later. lol. That's absurd. Absurdly malicious. That a developer commented on it later just seals the deal. But one should already be optimistic with what's already shown. It makes no sense otherwise.

[prosthetic soul]

It did show it. Breath scene.

 

It's pointless to show something like that, only to make Shep die seconds later. lol. That's absurd. Absurdly malicious. That a developer commented on it later just seals the deal. But one should already be optimistic with what's already shown. It makes no sense otherwise.

It showed a torso inhaling before immediately cutting to black.  It's nothing but a massive vagary that goes nowhere.  Maybe Shepard is a vegetable?  Maybe Shepard is now a quadriplegic? Or perhaps it's the last gasping breath before he/she finally expires for good.  Being told after the fact that Shepard "lives" without actually seeing it in the game's ending is about as satisfying as listening to someone talk over the phone about how much fun they're having at Disney World while you're stuck in a snowstorm up north. 

 

No one wants to hear that.  It's pointless.  Just as there is no point in giving some half-assed scene which merely implies Shepard lives without expanding on it.   Why even put that in there?  I'd argue that's more malicious than if they had left it out entirely. 

[Midnight Bliss]

It showed a torso inhaling before immediately cutting to black.  It's nothing but a massive vagary that goes nowhere.  Maybe Shepard is a vegetable?  Maybe Shepard is now a quadriplegic? Or perhaps it's the last gasping breath before he/she finally expires for good.  Being told after the fact that Shepard "lives" without actually seeing it in the game's ending is about as satisfying as listening to someone talk over the phone about how much fun they're having at Disney World while you're stuck in a snowstorm up north. 

 

No one wants to hear that.  It's pointless.  Just as there is no point in giving some half-assed scene which merely implies Shepard lives without expanding on it.   Why even put that in there?  I'd argue that's more malicious than if they had left it out entirely. 

They confirmed Shep is alive in the proper sense of the word, not dying/diedlater/comatose/ect.

 

Yeah, it is stupid and probably them trying to pointlessly seem mysterious and deep. It's actually a really good example of not being trust your work to speak for itself, because besides that weird thing and the starchild the destroy ending was pretty fabulous (the EC version). It almost seems like they couldn't just trust the emotion to carry the day and worried it wouldn't be enough for people so they tried to force in lots of unsolicited depth and add some higher meaning. Which is a shame, and something you'd expect to see in work of a much, much lower quality.

 

Just install JAM, since the ending is that is pretty much the canon for destroy just presented in a far superior, more logical way.

[straykat]

It showed a torso inhaling before immediately cutting to black.  It's nothing but a massive vagary that goes nowhere.  Maybe Shepard is a vegetable?  Maybe Shepard is now a quadriplegic? Or perhaps it's the last gasping breath before he/she finally expires for good.  Being told after the fact that Shepard "lives" without actually seeing it in the game's ending is about as satisfying as listening to someone talk over the phone about how much fun they're having at Disney World while you're stuck in a snowstorm up north. 

 

No one wants to hear that.  It's pointless.  Just as there is no point in giving some half-assed scene which merely implies Shepard lives without expanding on it.   Why even put that in there?  I'd argue that's more malicious than if they had left it out entirely. 

 

Like I said, you're just inclined to believe in something absurd and malicious. The breath is a suitable enough literary device, if you're not inclined to think the worst of people. They could have more exposition and all that, but the simple fact that Shepard lives is already there. It's like you want one of those drawn out Lord of the Rings endings, where Frodo is smiling in slo-mo, happy to see his friends.

 

I'm not the biggest fan myself, but come on.

[NKnight7]

Will the ME3 ending be discussed until the end of time? It makes me wonder...

[Puddi III]

[ZipZap2000]

Shepard never died to begin with, if you chose Destroy and didn't suck (which isn't hard).

Even a developer called high ems destroy the "Shepard Lives" ending.

There was a post from Bioware somewhere in ME3 forum that said it was intended as an Easter egg and nothing more.

It wasn't until EC the galactic dark age and the Easter egg were 'adjusted' to what the fanbase had interpreted.

It's been some time since I've seen the post, so I might not be 100% accurate.

But destroy was originally one of the worst endings possible. If you didn't kill everyone you set the galaxy back a few billion years and Shep was dead even if got the breathes scene.

The consequences of that ending extended to everything from medigel, to the Quarians suits, to the fate of the fleets.

[AutumnRose]

You need to play the multiplayer for the real ending. It unlocks at N7 2000+

[SlottsMachine]

Did anyone watch the vid? I thought it was kinda fun.

 

Starbrat: "You could simply walk away." Haha. 

[straykat]

There was a post from Bioware somewhere in ME3 forum that said it was intended as an Easter egg and nothing more.

It wasn't until EC the galactic dark age and the Easter egg were 'adjusted' to what the fanbase had interpreted.

It's been some time since I've seen the post, so I might not be 100% accurate.

But destroy was originally one of the worst endings possible. If you didn't kill everyone you set the galaxy back a few billion years and Shep was dead even if got the breathes scene.

The consequences of that ending extended to everything from medigel, to the Quarians suits, to the fate of the fleets.

 

That makes no sense. Why show the breath... just to show them dead.

 

Why??!!

 

Seriously. I can not wrap my head around it.

 

If they wanted them dead so badly, then they should just ****** do it. I have no prob with that.

 

As for setting humanity back, who cares. Humanity is badass. They'll be fine. That's my whole point in choosing Destroy. The whole series is founded on borrowing tech and being a dependent scavenger race. Real humans are better than this. That's why it blows my mind that people hail it as great sci-fi. I have fun with all the Spectre stuff and gallavanting across the galaxy, but it's main themes are stupid.

[ZipZap2000]

That makes no sense. Why show the breath... just to show them dead.

Why??!!

Seriously. I can not wrap my head around it.

If they wanted them dead so badly, then they should just ****** do it. I have no prob with that.

As for setting humanity back, who cares. Humanity is badass. They'll be fine. That's my whole point in choosing Destroy. The whole series is founded on borrowing tech and being a dependent scavenger race. Real humans are better than this. That's why it blows my mind that people hail it as great sci-fi. I have fun with all the Spectre stuff and gallavanting across the galaxy, but it's main themes are stupid.

I think it was originally meant for players who had all three games and had amassed assets over their journey.

Whole trilogy assets = High EMS. = Easter Egg.

In the end it was tied to MP a move that served its purpose in getting people to play MP but ultimately made the EE open for interpretation.

Ironically though had they not tied EMS to MP it might not have been such a success and people would have lost interest a long time ago.

[straykat]

Ironically though had they not tied EMS to MP it might not have been such a success and people would have lost interest a long time ago.

 

I agree there.

 

However, I started kind of late myself. I think a few months after launch. Most of the additions already came out. I didn't need much ems, I think.

[Dantriges]

Did anyone watch the vid? I thought it was kinda fun.

 

Starbrat: "You could simply walk away." Haha. 

 

 

It´s the dialogue you have with an AI on the Citadel in ME1 with your ME 1 squad copy/pasted in the ME 3 decision chamber.

[straykat]

I knew it was the voice from ME1.. but I don't know what the point of that vid was.

[Pee Jae]

Wheels on the bus... something, something... thread and stuff.

[Iakus]

It did show it. Breath scene.

 

It's pointless to show something like that, only to make Shep die seconds later. lol. That's absurd.  

Works for me.  THe endings were both pointless and absurd.  

[Iakus]

That makes no sense. Why show the breath... just to show them dead.

 

Why??!!

 

Why did the Council thank Shepard for saving them from"Saren and the Reapers" just to go "Ah, yes, 'Reapers"  later on?

 

Why does Than find a new desire to live, only to be content to die six months later?

 

Why is Tali's immune system so weak a tiny breach in her suit is potentially deadly, but she can adapt to being with Shepard after sleeping with him twice?

 

By ME3, there is precious little that actually "makes sense"  It's all a dream... or a nightmare.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Obvious denier is obvious.

[The Real Pearl #2]

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[ModernAcademic]

Will the ME3 ending be discussed until the end of time? It makes me wonder...