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[aoibhealfae]

Wasn't there an ending mod that show Shepard inside the Normandy in the end?

[JoltDealer]

Here's a fun fact. There's actually a group of people who still believe the Earth is flat. They're called "The Flat Earth Society. Google it. I bring them up because they believe what they believe in spite of all evidence to the contrary. You can believe whatever you want, just don't expect it to be true.

[straykat]

Here's a fun fact. There's actually a group of people who still believe the Earth is flat. They're called "The Flat Earth Society. Google it. I bring them up because they believe what they believe in spite of all evidence to the contrary. You can believe whatever you want, just don't expect it to be true.

 

What does that have to do with Mass Effect?

[JoltDealer]

What does that have to do with Mass Effect?

You seriously don't see what I'm getting at? The whole, "Shepard is alive and here's how Mass Effect 3 really ended," despite what we as players saw, what the developers have said, and years of this discussion being done to death. Topics like this are ridiculous because it's somebody posting their unrealistic and delusional expectations for all to see, that, upon the game's release, they'll ultimately be disappointed by said expectations not being met.

[straykat]

You seriously don't see what I'm getting at? The whole, "Shepard is alive and here's how Mass Effect 3 really ended," despite what we as players saw, what the developers have said, and years of this discussion being done to death. Topics like this are ridiculous because it's somebody posting their unrealistic and delusional expectations for all to see, that, upon the game's release, they'll ultimately be disappointed by said expectations not being met.

 

No, I don't get it. Because Shepard doesn't always die. And you don't need belief to justify it. It actually happens.

 

And to be so Matter of Fact about it is strange to me.

[wright1978]

It showed a torso inhaling before immediately cutting to black.  It's nothing but a massive vagary that goes nowhere.  Maybe Shepard is a vegetable?  Maybe Shepard is now a quadriplegic? Or perhaps it's the last gasping breath before he/she finally expires for good.  Being told after the fact that Shepard "lives" without actually seeing it in the game's ending is about as satisfying as listening to someone talk over the phone about how much fun they're having at Disney World while you're stuck in a snowstorm up north. 

 

No one wants to hear that.  It's pointless.  Just as there is no point in giving some half-assed scene which merely implies Shepard lives without expanding on it.   Why even put that in there?  I'd argue that's more malicious than if they had left it out entirely. 

 

Highly malicious not to expand on it in EC and instead have an epilogue that acts as if it doesn't exist apart from scumbag squaddies having a moments pause at prematurely celebrating Shep's death.

[in it for the lolz]

I'll let Sten handle this.

[VillainQueen]

I think Shepard is alive in that one ending too (I worked my ass off and sacrificed the Geth for it, so she better was alive lol) but it doesn't matter anymore. In ME:A Shepard is dead either way. It is supposed to be so many years after the events of the trilogy. Shepard might have died years after the war but the result is the same. And I think that is good. I bet we hear about him/her in Andromeda like we would hear about some legend, but nothing more.

[Midnight Bliss]

Wasn't there an ending mod that show Shepard inside the Normandy in the end?

Yeah JAM fixes it to be what they should have done (others do too, but they usually add tons of extra content sooo...), and what the actual canon would almost certainly be if you had the EMS to survive.

 

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I don't know why people are still speculating "if Shep survived" In that ending. Bioware already answered ages ago and said she did survive if you get that scene, and most likely reunites with her LI too. This is buttressed by the fact the LI looks up and refuses to put her plaque on the wall, I guess psychically knowing she's alive, and then the Normandy speeding away to go find her. Once you add everything up the non modded ending actually feels alot more modded than alot of the mod endings end up doing. (No other scene is so awkward and pointless in that ending, not even the little kid)

The whole thing was either laziness or them trying to be pointlessly mysterious. Judging by the tidal wave of unnecessary revelations with the Starchild I'd guess it was the latter..

 

Thank god for mods that fix it.

[Iakus]

Highly malicious not to expand on it in EC and instead have an epilogue that acts as if it doesn't exist apart from scumbag squaddies having a moments pause at prematurely celebrating Shep's death.

What, you don't think in inexplicably Force Sensitive LI adds "clarity and closure"?  

[Commander Rpg]

What, you don't think in inexplicably Force Sensitive LI adds "clarity and closure"?  

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Nothing inspires confidence that the conversation you're about to have will be reasonable more than someone opening with the statement "I refuse to believe that the dead person is dead."

[wright1978]

What, you don't think in inexplicably Force Sensitive LI adds "clarity and closure"?  

 

Since my LI wasn't considered worthwhile enough by them to be allowed to be force sensitive, i have even less time for less traitorous squaddie A's moment of force sensitivity.

[straykat]

Since my LI wasn't considered worthwhile enough by them to be allowed to be force sensitive, i have even less time for less traitorous squaddie A's moment of force sensitivity.

 

I like to think Jack and Miranda know Shep isn't stupid enough to pick anything but Destroy.

 

No Force necessary.

[Al Foley]

It's a Schrodinger's Cat at best and a headcanoner's wet dream at worst. 

 

If you need to tell the player that something happened in the ending, rather than show it, than the HIGH EMS ending didn't do its job. In other words, Shepard may have technically lived according to the word of God but it doesn't really matter in the long run because he may as well be dead for all intents and purposes.

They did show it.  Yet inexplicably some people still thought he was dead which forced the devs to answer this question.  

 

I like to think Jack and Miranda know Shep isn't stupid enough to pick anything but Destroy.

 

No Force necessary.

The Force is always necessary my young padawan.

[Derrame]

Shepard does survivive with the "destroy" ending, but ME:A is set in another galaxy with another threat, so there is no relation nor connection btween the end of ME and ME:A

[Iakus]

They did show it.  Yet inexplicably some people still thought he was dead which forced the devs to answer this question.  

 

Because a faceless torso taking a breath isn't exactly reassuring"?

 

Also didn't help when the "It could be Shepard's last breath" comment came about

[Al Foley]

Because a faceless torso taking a breath isn't exactly reassuring"?

 

Also didn't help when the "It could be Shepard's last breath" comment came about

Was for me.  Though I suppose I was a bit annoyed when they did not give us more with the EC.  But we know they are alive at least.  To go back to become space marine bad ass marines and save the galaxy from evil corporations and galactic plots...wait...that's fan fiction. 

[sjsharp2011]

Oh, brother.

Exactly what I was thinking because in my opinion Shepard is dead regardless of the ending. Yes he may be breathing come theend of the desrtoy ending but I kind of consider that he/she is likely dead by the time anyone finds him/her. Besides I've put Shepard's story behind me anyway and will likely be sneaking a few more playthroughs at some point this year before MEA comes out.

[Andrew Lucas]

Absjajfabfjsn.

There's just one person happy with every ending thread.

Anyways, Shepard is alive and sells ice cream.

[wright1978]

Because a faceless torso taking a breath isn't exactly reassuring"?

 

Also didn't help when the "It could be Shepard's last breath" comment came about

 

Crazy logic. Breath shep, hey you've got closure enough apparently because faceless torso is reassuring. Clearly dead Shep, **** you need a tonne of extra closure via a specially crafted death celebration scene and Reaper fireside chat in control.

 

Yeah even post EC, there were devs trolling with the well it could be his/her last breath.

[aoibhealfae]

Yeah JAM fixes it to be what they should have done (others do too, but they usually add tons of extra content sooo...), and what the actual canon would almost certainly be if you had the EMS to survive.

I downloaded an ending mod once and meh... replacing LI with Shepard and EDI with LI doesn't work for me. At least it make everyone happy.

 

Normally, I record and edit my own endings and during the memorial scene with the LI, I just add more flashbacks of Shepard that span around the trilogy and I have her voice over with; "I will be waiting for you, you better show up" and then the smile would take on a very different meaning. Now that there's that N7 day video, at least there's some new materials for me to play with.

[Scarlett]

I agree with straykat... My shepard is alive, period.
Since the Normandy can still fly, I believe she will reunit with the crew. That's pretty obvious to me, the way Garrus (my Love interest) kindly smiles when he reads her name on the memorial plaque he holds (like "sweetie, you rocks, you really did it !" XD) and never put it on the wall ! he knows she's alive (big difference with the other endings where her name is on he wall with Anderson's.. BTW I always asked myself: how did they know Anderson was dead ? Pretty sure space communications are still working ). And then the Normandy flies away. Pretty obvious to me she's alive and the crew is coming back on Earth to get her. So basically I say the exact same thing than what Skarbrand wrote ... and there's no point to make her breath on this ending if she isn't alive. she clearly passed away on all the other endings and we don't have this sequence.

 

Bioware already answered ages ago and said she did survive if you get that scene, and most likely reunites with her LI too.

 

really ? well that's pretty cool and matching with everything I understood

 

Also, I don't see what the problem is with MEA, especially because I don't think there will be any influences of the ME trilogy's endings on MEA. I think the crew from MEA left the milky way before ME ending (during the 2 years when Shepard was dead, maybe) so ... what's the point to argue on Shepard been dead or alive ? Of course I can't be sure when MEA starts, it's just my theory, but I think it would be really strange to start the game after the ME trilogy (or you have to do it a VERY long time after everything !). The ending has too much consequences on the whole univers. How to deal with that ? MEA is a fresh start, I'm pretty sure of that, so they won't bother themselves to deal with the so controversial endings (so no save import)~ I'm not even sure the new crew will be in contact with the Milky way ...

[Heathen Oxman]

Shepard is dead because I killed her.

 

Then I ate her brains with jam on toast.

[Midnight Bliss]

I downloaded an ending mod once and meh... replacing LI with Shepard and EDI with LI doesn't work for me. At least it make everyone happy.

 

Normally, I record and edit my own endings and during the memorial scene with the LI, I just add more flashbacks of Shepard that span around the trilogy and I have her voice over with; "I will be waiting for you, you better show up" and then the smile would take on a very different meaning. Now that there's that N7 day video, at least there's some new materials for me to play with.

That sounds lovely. If only I knew how to edit videos, I'd probably take a run at something like that.

 

Anything to feel less depressed after that heartbreaking goodbye between Shep & Kaidan.