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I Refuse To Believe Shepard's Death, here is the real ending to ME:3 and intro to ME:A™


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#51
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No, I don't get it. Because Shepard doesn't always die. And you don't need belief to justify it. It actually happens.

 

And to be so Matter of Fact about it is strange to me.

 

Aside from the devs calling it the "Shepard Lives" ending, there isn't much to support that he/she is even truly alive.  Even so, that's not all of what I'm ridiculing here.  Saying that Mass Effect 3's "true ending" isn't one of the endings that were in the game is insane and wildly incorrect.  The ending is the ending, no matter what you get or what you think of it.  No amount of fan edits or happy ending mods are going to change that.


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Aside from the devs calling it the "Shepard Lives" ending, there isn't much to support that he/she is even truly alive.  Even so, that's not all of what I'm ridiculing here.  Saying that Mass Effect 3's "true ending" isn't one of the endings that were in the game is insane and wildly incorrect.  The ending is the ending, no matter what you get or what you think of it.  No amount of fan edits or happy ending mods are going to change that.

 

I thought the OP was joking. And it's funny to see someone get all defiant about it.

 

As for the the breath scene, there is plenty of support: It simply exists. It would be idiotic to show it, yet go "Aha!!! You thought they lived. No, they die later", but never say that. Like it's some Monty Python skit or something.


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kylo ren killed shepard.


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JoltDealer

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I thought the OP was joking. And it's funny to see someone get all defiant about it.
 
As for the the breath scene, there is plenty of support: It simply exists. It would be idiotic to show it, yet go "Aha!!! You thought they lived. No, they die later", but never say that. Like it's some Monty Python skit or something.

Trust me. You frequent this board long enough and you will get sick of jokes like these.
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Refuse all you want buddy, it's not like it's going to change.

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Aside from the devs calling it the "Shepard Lives" ending, there isn't much to support that he/she is even truly alive.  Even so, that's not all of what I'm ridiculing here.  Saying that Mass Effect 3's "true ending" isn't one of the endings that were in the game is insane and wildly incorrect.  The ending is the ending, no matter what you get or what you think of it.  No amount of fan edits or happy ending mods are going to change that.

Except for the fact statements they made said later make their own ending feel more incorrect than some of the modded ones. So yes, the ending is "the ending" And someone fixing the scenes to better reflect "the ending" Would be just as valid as going back and making a mod for a older game in a series to reflect changes to lore from sequels.

 

 

Maybe they intentionally made the original ending janky so people would talk about it until the end of time like this, it's actually quite brilliant if so.



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I didn't watch the video but I am sure it made as much sense as the actual endings ofr ME3, which was hardly any sense at all. 



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Shepard is dead.

 

Your LI is a drug addict and dead.

 

Anderson never loved you. He is also dead.


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Shepard is dead.

 

Your LI is a drug addict and dead.

 

Anderson never loved you. He is also dead.

Comedy's dead, and you can't do anything about it at all.



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Anderson thinks I'm going to be a good mother. I can't be dead yet.



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kylo ren killed shepard.

 

lol No way...

 

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NOPE. NOPE. NOPITY NOPE NOPE.

 

That's all a cover up.  A lie.

 

The Reaper War was an inside job.

 

It was a plot by the Council.  The Reapers were designed by Council forces, particularly the Spectre program, and designed in order to create an enemy that all the galaxy would have to unite against.  Doing this, they would be able to form a new galactic order in which the asari, the turians, and the salarians ruled over all other species with an iron fist.

 

Commander Shepard and Saren were the spearheads of this operation.

 

 

Trust no one.  Believe in Cerberus.  

 

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Except for the fact statements they made said later make their own ending feel more incorrect than some of the modded ones. So yes, the ending is "the ending" And someone fixing the scenes to better reflect "the ending" Would be just as valid as going back and making a mod for a older game in a series to reflect changes to lore from sequels.

 

 

Maybe they intentionally made the original ending janky so people would talk about it until the end of time like this, it's actually quite brilliant if so.

 

See, this is the issue that a lot of people don't understand -- it doesn't matter if the official ending feels "incorrect."  Yes, there are good and bad versions of each ending, but the only legitimate or "correct" endings are the ones that were included in the original game and modified version that came with later DLC releases.  No how strongly the author feels, fanfiction will never be considered canonical in any universe.  No matter how valid your reasoning may be or how popular your alternative is, it is not legitimate or canon unless the people with the rights to the franchise say it is.  You can disagree with that idea if you wish, but Intellectual Properties just don't work like that.

 

That being said, it would be one of the biggest marketing ploys ever if what you suggested was true.  Every time there's a discussion of fan satisfaction or fans demanding a change in a game, Mass Effect 3 is mentioned.  Truly brilliant if true.  Yet, much like legitimate endings, it's just a wild, conspiracy theory unless somebody from Bioware confirms it.  Although, there's nothing wrong with donning a tinfoil hat every now and then.



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See, this is the issue that a lot of people don't understand -- it doesn't matter if the official ending feels "incorrect."  Yes, there are good and bad versions of each ending, but the only legitimate or "correct" endings are the ones that were included in the original game and modified version that came with later DLC releases.  No how strongly the author feels, fanfiction will never be considered canonical in any universe.  No matter how valid your reasoning may be or how popular your alternative is, it is not legitimate or canon unless the people with the rights to the franchise say it is.  You can disagree with that idea if you wish, but Intellectual Properties just don't work like that.

 

That being said, it would be one of the biggest marketing ploys ever if what you suggested was true.  Every time there's a discussion of fan satisfaction or fans demanding a change in a game, Mass Effect 3 is mentioned.  Truly brilliant if true.  Yet, much like legitimate endings, it's just a wild, conspiracy theory unless somebody from Bioware confirms it.  Although, there's nothing wrong with donning a tinfoil hat every now and then.

Yeah, I hear you. Ultimately it probably doesn't matter much in the grand scheme anyway, since people should probably just do what makes them most happy and not worry about whether it's valid or not.

 

Mmmhm, either they have some evil genius on that design team or it was dumb luck borne from them being too stubborn to fix what needed to be fixed, but I guess imagining the latter is true feels more satisfying since it's better than the alternative.



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Shepard never died to begin with, if you chose Destroy and didn't suck (which isn't hard).

 

Even a developer called high ems destroy the "Shepard Lives" ending.

 

I don't know why this is such a hard thing to understand.  Tully Ackland confirmed this on the old board.  The leaked script confirms it.  Hell! Other mediums that use this type of trope confirm this (i.e. regaining consciousness marked by a sudden gasp of air).



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Hell, yes. In any other medium every single viewer would know exactly what that scene meant. I don't know why games are supposed to be different.

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Hell, yes. In any other medium every single viewer would know exactly what that scene meant. I don't know why games are supposed to be different.

Because games give the viewer a greater sense of ownership in the protagonist.  You aren't passively watching a character on a screen, you are directing it.  You designed the character's appearance.  You decided on the backstory.  You chose what to say, what choices to make, who to romance.  What happens is because you made it happen.  

 

So if the character walks into a fireball while committing genocide  and ends up a gasping faceless torso, it's because you did that to them (or were forced to do it because terribad writing).

 

 

This isn't a difficult concept.

 

But as the tweet says "Player choice is very important to us"  /sarcasm  <_<



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Will the ME3 ending be discussed until the end of time? It makes me wonder...

 

It will be discussed even after!!  :devil:


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It will be discussed even after!!  :devil:

They wanted an ending that would be talked about... :rolleyes:

 

They probably shouldn't have used that monkey's paw to make the wish though  :D