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[Seboist]

to add to that, you know why not a lot of people would own up to not enjoying sex and/or not always enjoying sex? Because apparently it's considered as something abnormal, shameful, something that has to be cured or else you can never have a working relationship ever because everybody has to love the old in and out. So there might be people out there that just suck it up and f*ck, not enjoying themselves just because they think it has to be that way. Does that sound right? 

 

Adults, not ashamed of their sexuality, sexual desires, sexual needs and emotions would talk about it. Figure out if they can work with each other. That's how it should be. Don't just assume things. Maker's breath ... seriously. 

'Cause they're not doing it right.

[SentinelMacDeath]

'Cause they're not doing it right.

that has literally nothing to do with it 

[Cyonan]

Romantic Relationship with no sex?

 

[Elhanan]

^ Says the .gif wrapped up to prevent infection....

[Cyonan]

^ Says the .gif wrapped up to prevent infection....

 

You know the rules.

 

Wrap it before you tap it.

[Elhanan]

You know the rules.
 
Wrap it before you tap it.

And yet the percentage of those that become sick and or die from such practices seems to be somewhat higher than those that do not practice at all....

[Cyonan]

And yet the percentage of those that become sick and or die from such practices seems to be somewhat higher than those that do not practice at all....

 

A lot of things increase your chance of death.

 

A lot of those things also are fun to do, however.

[Malthier]

A lot of things increase your chance of death.

 

A lot of those things also are fun to do, however.

 

ooh, I know. riding in an airplane. roller blading. driving a car. turning on a stove. going for a walk. painting.

 

and none of those things are as basic a human drive as the biological urge to get diagonal with one another

[Elhanan]

A lot of things increase your chance of death.
 
A lot of those things also are fun to do, however.

Uncertain how one qualifies the 'fun' of some possible results.

[Laughing_Man]

And yet the percentage of those that become sick and or die from such practices seems to be somewhat higher than those that do not practice at all....

 

There is a difference between being reasonably cautious and having hypochondria.

[Cyonan]

Uncertain how one qualifies the 'fun' of some possible results.

 

That's what the rules are for, to minimize the risk of certain results while allowing for the fun to take place.

 

If you avoid everything that increases your chance of death no matter how small, life would be boring.

 

Life isn't supposed to be boring.

[Quarian Master Race]

Sex is deadly, and humans should obviously stop having it so they don't all die off.

[Puddi III]

So is asexual due to fear of STDs an actual thing, or is this just Elhanan being himself.

[Laughing_Man]

Sex is deadly, and humans should obviously stop having it so they don't all die off.

 

Living has a 100% mortality rate...

[Laughing_Man]

So is asexual due to fear of STDs an actual thing, or is this just Elhanan being himself.

 

Today everything tends to be a thing, it's called the specialis snowflakolous syndrome. Extremely virulent.

Main transmission agent: Social media.

[wright1978]

What the Frak?

 

What is this? What ADULT healthy romantic relationships have no sex? Seriously people do not behave this way. Adults do not as a rule have a long protracted romantic relationships with no sex. It might seem that way to virgins and teens that sex is the "prize" or that people are reluctant to have sex but that isn't the norm at all.

 

Adults have sex rather quickly in their romantic dealings. There is a reason that is a three date unwritten "rule." The third date is the date adults normally take things to a sexual level. No the rule doesn't actually exist and a third date doesn't actually mean sex, but it is there because adults have sex EARLY in a relationship where love is the 'prize' not sex. Some budding relationships have sex earlier some later than three dates but it isn't three months or longer when adults start having a sexual component to their relationships. So why does a mature franchises like DA or ME treat sex like the prize?

...

 

I don't need a sex scene for a romance but for the love of god bioware stop making sex a fraking prize to be earned and won. If you want a sex scene to be for later in the game for dramatic effect then fine just don't make it the couple's first sexual experience with each other. Make it clear that the couple are romantically and sexually involved before hand without the need for on screen sex per say.

 

I agree that sex shouldn't be used as some sort of prize at the end of the romance. It just should be part of the deepening process.

Don't agree regarding sex scene not being shown, i think it's pretty important to at least make some sort of an effort to represent that element of the relationship.

[Elhanan]

So is asexual due to fear of STDs an actual thing, or is this just Elhanan being himself.

Add in unplanned pregnancy, and the gifts keep on appearing. Just ask Jacob.

But it would seem that I am not alone; nor is the problem strictly fictional:

http://freebeacon.co...-has-on-herpes/

[Cyonan]

Add in unplanned pregnancy, and the gifts keep on appearing. Just ask Jacob.

But it would seem that I am not alone; nor is the problem strictly fictional:

http://freebeacon.co...-has-on-herpes/

 

So do you avoid anything that might have a negative outcome or it is just sex you have an aversion towards?

[Elhanan]

So do you avoid anything that might have a negative outcome or it is just sex you have an aversion towards?

Not everything; still post here....

[Cyonan]

Not everything; still post here....

 

but we wont hurt you. We'll just slowly drive you insane until you become one of us.

 

Although really, a lot of things in life have potential bad outcomes. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do them. Life would be boring without risks, you just should be minimizing the chance of those risks having a bad outcome.

[Elhanan]

but we wont hurt you. We'll just slowly drive you insane until you become one of us.
 
Although really, a lot of things in life have potential bad outcomes. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do them. Life would be boring without risks, you just should be minimizing the chance of those risks having a bad outcome.

But those are not my only reason, as others have already indicated various possibilities.

Personally, Romances in games are a secondary concern. And as one can develop strong feelings of friendship towards certain NPC's in various Bioware titles without sex being an issue (eg; Varric, Aveline, Mordin, EDI, etc), the idea that sex being necessary is apparently invalid. Yes; sometimes friends can be enough.

And in the case of Romances, sexual intimacy is not required to have a fulfilling relationship. And I support the idea of making this optional if needed, though it already may be to a large degree.

What I dislike is Romance being tied to survival (eg; Miranda), being accidently accessed (eg; ME1), and other linked mechanics. These tend to be more annoying, IMO.

Also, have known at least one RL couple that had issues with the male Player becoming involved with every possible female in the game. It was soon after their discussions that he also was discovered to be doing much the same in their relationship. In this case, the female Player simply bolted. However, perhaps in game this situation should be reflected by having Ash, Liara, Miranda, Tali, etc having access to their abilities in which to better clarify their idea of loyalty.

[Cyonan]

But those are not my only reason, as others have already indicated various possibilities.

Personally, Romances in games are a secondary concern. And as one can develop strong feelings of friendship towards certain NPC's in various Bioware titles without sex being an issue (eg; Varric, Aveline, Mordin, EDI, etc), the idea that sex being necessary is apparently invalid. Yes; sometimes friends can be enough.

And in the case of Romances, sexual intimacy is not required to have a fulfilling relationship. And I support the idea of making this optional if needed, though it already may be to a large degree.

What I dislike is Romance being tied to survival (eg; Miranda), being accidently accessed (eg; ME1), and other linked mechanics. These tend to be more annoying, IMO.

Also, have known at least one RL couple that had issues with the male Player becoming involved with every possible female in the game. It was soon after their discussions that he also was discovered to be doing much the same in their relationship. In this case, the female Player simply bolted. However, perhaps in game this situation should be reflected by having Ash, Liara, Miranda, Tali, etc having access to their abilities in which to better clarify their idea of loyalty.

 

Well I have nothing against strong friendships like Garrus being your space bro.

 

As for romantic relationships without sex, it can be hard to argue against pretty much anything that is 100% optional because I can always opt to just not do that thing. I will however note, that line of thinking leads to trying to give something for everybody which makes what content you do add very thin.

 

To that end, I would rather see fewer romances that may have required sex scenes in them but are overall much better story arcs over lots of romances that are trying to give everybody options. Then we could have romantic relationships which have sex, but where sex isn't the final "prize" of the whole thing.

 

Although I think that in general, the game should be more clear about what your actions will be from a certain dialogue choice. The dialogue wheel isn't always very clear about the tone and intention of the line. DA:I did a better job of things with the icons in the center giving the general tone of the dialogue.

[wright1978]

Well I have nothing against strong friendships like Garrus being your space bro.

 

As for romantic relationships without sex, it can be hard to argue against pretty much anything that is 100% optional because I can always opt to just not do that thing. I will however note, that line of thinking leads to trying to give something for everybody which makes what content you do add very thin.

 

To that end, I would rather see fewer romances that may have required sex scenes in them but are overall much better story arcs over lots of romances that are trying to give everybody options. Then we could have romantic relationships which have sex, but where sex isn't the final "prize" of the whole thing.

 

Pretty much my reasoning, hence why i'm against such unconnected content that such optionality would likely lead to without heavy resource increases for alternate paths.

Equally I'm all in favour of deeper romances with sex being integrated fully into the relationship rather than a final prize at the end.

[CronoDragoon]

Equally I'm all in favour of deeper romances with sex being integrated fully into the relationship rather than a final prize at the end.

 

So, most BioWare romances? If not all of them? Struggling to think of some where you don't have sex until the very end.

[Cyonan]

So, most BioWare romances? If not all of them? Struggling to think of some where you don't have sex until the very end.

 

Mass Effect's romances are notably pretty bad for being "1st flirt -> 2nd flirt -> We'll bang, okay? -> post-sex conversation -> Wait till next game"