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[Akrabra]

Because it negatively affects the choice for the wider player base for what appears to be a tiny minority who wish to avoid sex. If the norms of society were polar opposite to what they are i wouldn't expect such a mainstream game to be built with sex heavily present.

But if it was just a choice? It wouldn't really harm anyone and it would just add more to the game for people that want the emotional connection to be established on a deeper level before making that move, or if they ever want to make that move at all. 

[wright1978]

But if it was just a choice? It wouldn't really harm anyone and it would just add more to the game for people that want the emotional connection to be established on a deeper level before making that move, or if they ever want to make that move at all. 

 

But making it a choice you make it not a definite, which means that makes it much harder to have any later romance dialogue reflective of state of romance being sexual. So yeah i'm leery of this sort of choice within what is already an optional content because i doubt they'd invest sufficient resources to sculpt deep romances with multiple consistent paths.

[Undead Han]

It's like Shepard's crewmates are all whoremongers when they say that they love you one line, then when you say 'no' not now let's not have sex, the person who 'loves' you so much breaks up with Shepard because she can't have sex.... Come on BioWare I know your writing is better than this.

 

Whoremongers?

 

So a character who values sex and thinks it is a vital part of a healthy relationship, is totally the same as someone who frequents prostitutes? Okay then....

[Puddi III]

But will they have the option to say no to a sexless relationship?

[Remix-General Aetius]

One word: Masturbation 

 

Well then you might as well:

 

Spoiler

youtube.com/watch?v=BIR6xcvEpec

[LexXxich]

BW is most certainly guilty of another thing. Remember in ME2, Shepard would talk to some squadmates, get to know them better and improve relationship until it came to point of forking into romance or friendship? But there was no friendship. If your Shepard wanted to spar with Garrus literally instead of metaphorically, turian just stopped talking to you completely, becoming obsessed with calibrations.

[I Am Robot]

After reading every response, I still don't understand why this matters.

[Undead Han]

After reading every response, I still don't understand why this matters.

 

I think its another request for asexual or demisexual LIs, but just worded slightly differently and paired with a heaping dose of sex negative judgement. 

[Puddi III]

Oh I didn't bother to read that stupid OP, now I feel bad for even posting in this thread.

[Battlebloodmage]

I think having the option to skip it is ok but to have a relationship with no sex is a no-no. It's not even about seeing the sex act since I'm ok with fade to black but it is about headcanon, I don't ever see any of my characters to ever be in a relationship with no sex. It is a big part of the relationship for most people and can cause issues that result in break up. 

 

It's funny how asking for a feature, the OP also s lut shaming people who enjoy something wired to them biologically and expected part of any regular relationship. If one thing they shouldn't copy is how DAI turned into a PC crapfest; I'm saying that as a liberal. The game goes so far as to not offend people that it feels so bland and robotic. I find a lot of hypocrisy from certain fans and the developers in that game, but that's a different topic entirely. 

[Shechinah]

I think its another request for asexual or demisexual LIs, but just worded slightly differently and paired with a heaping dose of sex negative judgement. 

 

I see it more as a request for optional sexual content and frustration over the only avaliable option to avoid the content seemingly being to end the romance it features in. Said frustration seemingly being expressed through a dose of unnecessary shaming and a misuse of the word 'whoremonger' which may or may not also violate the forums rules about appropriate language.
 

[SolNebula]

OP the moment you'll find in real life a human specimen (of both genders) that wants a romantic relationship without sex then please contact the WWF because you a got a rare specimen there.

 

Sex is not something to be ashamed of, it is part of nature...........deal with it and with all the religious mumbo jumbo that was taught to you.

[Wulfram]

Does saying no to sex in ME3 before the suicide mission end the relationship? It doesn't seem like it should.

I do think it reasonable to have the option to not have sex now without ending a relationship. Though more from an "its too soon in our relationship" point of view than an asexual one from my perspective. I had a Warden in DAO who waited until she was betrothed, for example.

People being in a hurry made sense in the rather apocalyptic circumstances of the original trilogy, but maybe that won't apply in Andromeda?

[SolNebula]

Does saying no to sex in ME3 before the suicide mission end the relationship? It doesn't seem like it should.

I do think it reasonable to have the option to not have sex now without ending a relationship. Though more from an "its too soon in our relationship" point of view than an asexual one from my perspective. I had a Warden in DAO who waited until she was betrothed, for example.

People being in a hurry made sense in the rather apocalyptic circumstances of the original trilogy, but maybe that won't apply in Andromeda?

 

It does break a relationship because if you are flirting with someone and then this potential romance wants to have sex with you (for the first time) but you reject him/her...you can expect said person to believe you don't find him/her attractive and consequently leave you.

[Zazzerka]

Jon and Darla Crocker for LIs in ME:A.

 

[SolNebula]

Jon and Darla Crocker for LIs in ME:A.

 

 

Well I pity them....they don't know what they are missing......also...religion.....tsk

[Helios969]

It does break a relationship because if you are flirting with someone and then this potential romance wants to have sex with you (for the first time) but you reject him/her...you can expect said person to believe you don't find him/her attractive and consequently leave you.

That's a legitimate risk however at the same time you should be able to respond with something like..."I really, truly like you...but I'm not ready for that yet."  Happens in real life all the time.  If that person really likes him or her they'll be patient.

[MileyChicken]

Ok, I just have one question. Why does this matter?

Why does anything on this forum matter?

[SolNebula]

That's a legitimate risk however at the same time you should be able to respond with something like..."I really, truly like you...but I'm not ready for that yet."  Happens in real life all the time.  If that person really likes him or her they'll be patient.

 

ha in real life what will happen is that you get dumped in the next game

[MileyChicken]

Jon and Darla Crocker for LIs in ME:A.

The abstinence was probably because "Jon" is an ugly **** lmao

[Wulfram]

It does break a relationship because if you are flirting with someone and then this potential romance wants to have sex with you (for the first time) but you reject him/her...you can expect said person to believe you don't find him/her attractive and consequently leave you.

The psychological nature of the situation is rather complicated what with the whole galaxy being on Shepard's shoulder and the LI would be pretty shallow not to understand that. Or Shepard might just not want to have pre-marital sex or something, that's not unreasonable.

Liara gets to play the "I'm not ready" card, and Shepard doesn't take that as indicating a lack of attraction. And it might not be the first time - they could be an established couple from ME1.

[Panda]

BW is most certainly guilty of another thing. Remember in ME2, Shepard would talk to some squadmates, get to know them better and improve relationship until it came to point of forking into romance or friendship? But there was no friendship. If your Shepard wanted to spar with Garrus literally instead of metaphorically, turian just stopped talking to you completely, becoming obsessed with calibrations.

 

That's true, Bioware tends to have bit lacking friendships especially when compared to romances. Some friendship arcs are good though like Garrus' in ME3.

[SolNebula]

The psychological nature of the situation is rather complicated what with the whole galaxy being on Shepard's shoulder and the LI would be pretty shallow not to understand that. Or Shepard might just not want to have pre-marital sex or something, that's not unreasonable.

Liara gets to play the "I'm not ready" card, and Shepard doesn't take that as indicating a lack of attraction. And it might not be the first time - they could be an established couple from ME1.

 

Please Liara it's a bad example she is basically waiting for the right moment to jump on Shepard.....although you are right if we are going to have an established couple by the beginning of the game. That would make sense.

[Helios969]

ha in real life what will happen is that Jacob Taylor find your substitute the next game.

Well the cheatin' bast*rd does that regardless.  Frankly I'm alright with stuff like that happening...I just want the ability to pummel him repeatedly.

 

I'm good with OP's request.  But I also what to do the opposite and roleplay as a wh*remonger or be able to cheat on a love interest with another companion who doesn't care that I'm in a romance.

[Shechinah]

It does break a relationship because if you are flirting with someone and then this potential romance wants to have sex with you (for the first time) but you reject him/her...you can expect said person to believe you don't find him/her attractive and consequently leave you.

 

Let me see if I understand this example; Someone is basically pressuring someone else into having sex on the threat of ending the relationship based on personal insecurities if the other person do not agree to have sex even though the other someone does not want to for different reasons that are not necessarily tied to religion.

 

One reason that applies to Mass Effect 2 could be incredible poor timing given that they are about to embark on a suicide mission and Shepard is possibly under a great deal of stress as well as potentially dealing with guilt over what happened to the crew meaning that they understandably may not to be in the mood and may be more interested in emotional support that is not tied to the sexual variety.

 

Additionally, I believe  there is also a duty-first reason since with some of the romances, there are factors that could result in some of the crew or Shepard themselves becoming incapacitated if they engage in a sexual act meaning it may compromised the combat and mental performance of Shepard or the crew thereby lowering the chances of the mission's success.