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BioWare can we please have the option to say no to sex but yes to relationships?


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Hey times are changing and I think eventually people are going to demand more adult content in games in the future.

 

Here's something you possibly don't want to think too hard about...

 

If you're in your 30s in Britain:

 

It's quite possible your mum lived through the swinging 60s - invention of the contraceptive pill, free love and all that.

 

Her mum lived through the War - with many local lads away at war and an availability of US servicemen over here.

 

... and so on.

 

 

I suspect that each passing generation is actually getting more inhibited than the last...


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Why go to the moon?

Or more on topic why reveal Tali's face?

Cant leave everything to the imagination all the time.

 

 

Tali's face... LOL.  I would rather have left that to the imagination.


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Tali's face... LOL.  I would rather have left that to the imagination.

 

I thought the backlash there was because you didn't get to actually see her face and it was just a photoshopped image lol


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I thought the backlash there was because you didn't get to actually see her face and it was just a photoshopped image lol

 

The image was the reason for the backlash. 



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Tali's face was 100% unnecessary for Talimancers such as myself. The attraction to Tali was always based on how lovable she was as a person. If they were going to reveal her face at all, it should've been done using in-game graphics. Maybe Shep could have kissed her during that scene where she takes her visor off on Rannoch.
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Tali's face was 100% unnecessary for Talimancers such as myself. The attraction to Tali was always based on how lovable she was as a person. If they were going to reveal her face at all, it should've been done using in-game graphics. Maybe Shep could have kissed her during that scene where she takes her visor off on Rannoch.


I enjoyed most of her appearances in the series. But the repeated drunk routines, and that singing in The Citadel have kept me from exploring any romantic arc.

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They made her a little too over-the-top in parts of ME3, for comedic effect. I wasn't a fan of drunk Tali (or drunk Ashley). She's a very sweet girl though, and that's why I love her.


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Hey times are changing and I think eventually people are going to demand more adult content in games in the future.

I'd rather have grownup content than 'adult content", thanks.


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I don't see the issue if it's just an option. But if it's forced on everyone, like it happens with Josephine in DAI and where you have no idea if the characters involved had sex or not, nope, thanks. I shouldn't have to count on headcanon to know / to be sure if something happened between my character and his romance or not. What kind of lame thing is that kind of story told ? However as an option, it could be interesting if it would be possible to continue a romance without having necessarily the sexual act. ( for those who'd consider it gladly )

 

At the same time, while it's something else, I'd like the possibility to have sex with my partner without the whole thing necessarily becoming suddenly overly dramatic. My inquisitor just flirted with Cassandra, being quite romantically interested, yes, but not more than that, not yet in love. He spent one night with the lady seeker, and just after that, the romance seemed already very serious , with some dramatic words quite bold while they just started to be lovers. I wouldn't have been annoyed if the sex scene didn't lock anything. 

 

 On the opposite you have no way to tell to Cassandra to slow down without breaking the romance, telling her you don't feel anything for her. You have no choice but to be locked in a very serious relationship without even having time to really fall in love in the romance story or you break her heart. Sex is hardly what make people fall in love, at least not alone. How about I spend more time with a character as my Li first ? Was quite annoyed. I had sex with this character, and my inquisitor is already  " I love you ? "  and I am forever bound to remain with her ? 

 

What I appreciated with the romance with Morrigan, it's that my character had a lot of sex with her, and considered her as a fun distraction at the beginning of their relationship, being able to stop their little game at anytime, before being really love with her ( the same for her ), their love relationship getting very serious after a while. I like to see when a relationship can evolve, and I felt it was realistic actually. But with Cassandra no time for this. Flirt, she requires me to read her poesy, to kneel before her feets before being possibily available... sex, and just one night changes everything, we are suddenly the best lovers ever, bound to remain together, despite my character having big disagreements over her involvement with the chantry as a divine... 

 

At that point, we should have had the possibility to break up with her if she persists, since her decision also matters for our relationship. Not only she dismisses the feelings of the inquisitor, but we are bound to be passive with only the possibility to whine, instead of choosing ourselves as her lover before such event if we want to be a part of her plans or not. Yes, we can't decide for her if she can be divine or not, but we should be free to decide what we are able to stand or not. 

 

As such, with such annoying example happening, I'd like to remove for once and for all the impossibilty to break up with a character at any point. Unless it has anything to do with important plot story regarding the romance as well, but otherwise, I should be able to break up whenever I want and if I want to, for example because I finally disagree a lot with my LI, whether the sexual act happened or not. It was possible with Miranda in M2.



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I thought the backlash there was because you didn't get to actually see her face and it was just a photoshopped image lol


That was all I cared about.

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I thought the backlash there was because you didn't get to actually see her face and it was just a photoshopped image lol

It was, they could of used what they wasted on Dianna Allers' man-face to have a better introduction to her face reveal.


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It was, they could of used what they wasted on Dianna Allers' man-face to have a better introduction to her face reveal.

that wouldn't have been worth an extra .5 of review score from IGN, tho.

Still, they could have at least spent more than 3 seconds on the photoshop, and a poor human girl might not have had half of her hand cut off in the process if they had.


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Young people believe in these things still?
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Young people believe in these things still?

 

:D



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I'd rather have grownup content than 'adult content", thanks.

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I'd rather have a game that is fun to play, is engaging, completely supports the target hardware with a good GUI interface and user defined save points.

 

Plus, mission restarts with the option to change your squad, a game with random events, user choices that unlocks different paths/areas for re-playabiliy and allows the modding community to mod the game



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I'd rather have a game that is fun to play, is engaging, completely supports the target hardware with a good GUI interface and user defined save points.

 

Plus, mission restarts with the option to change your squad, a game with random events, user choices that unlocks different paths/areas for re-playabiliy and allows the modding community to mod the game

That too  ;)



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I'd rather have grownup content than 'adult content", thanks.


Pffft grown up content is going to have some adult content. But each to his own.
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I'd rather have a game that is fun to play, is engaging, completely supports the target hardware with a good GUI interface and user defined save points.

 

Plus, mission restarts with the option to change your squad, a game with random events, user choices that unlocks different paths/areas for re-playabiliy and allows the modding community to mod the game

Modding is not really up to Bioware but up to EA since they own the engine, and I don't think they would allow their engine to be made available for the common folks, not that Frostbite is easy to mod in the first place anyway.



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OP the moment you'll find in real life a human specimen (of both genders) that wants a romantic relationship without sex then please contact the WWF because you a got a rare specimen there.

 

Sex is not something to be ashamed of, it is part of nature...........deal with it and with all the religious mumbo jumbo that was taught to you.

 

HA! Wow, so you think asexual's are just a bunch of brainwashed christian freaks ? or you know, maybe they aren't sexually attracted to people. Asexuality does exist and I don't understand why it can't be an option, then again this is bioware and it took them until ME3 for same sex relationships. I've never heard an asexual condemn sex, so again ... wtf are you taking about ?


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HA! Wow, so you think asexual's are just a bunch of brainwashed christian freaks ? or you know, maybe they aren't sexually attracted to people. Asexuality does exist and I don't understand why it can't be an option, then again this is bioware and it took them until ME3 for same sex relationships. I've never heard an asexual condemn sex, so again ... wtf are you taking about ?

Same reasons why there aren't any gay romance until ME3. The audience just isn't enough to justify such an investment. Sometimes I like to poke fun at ME for not include gay option for too long but I know that it wouldn't turn them a profit and just eat up into the resources. More than that, there are too many variables. Even asexual people are either gay, bi, or straight. Then talking about other sexual that haven't been implemented yet like transexuals. There are so many sexualities out there, and resources are limited. The number of options are very limited in the first place. Include options for variations of the sexual ones like straight, gay, and bi would really depend on the writers, seeing as how Josephine was written to be ambiguous, so people could decide her as whatever. 


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Same reasons why there aren't any gay romance until ME3. The audience just isn't enough to justify such an investment. Sometimes I like to poke fun at ME for not include gay option for too long but I know that it wouldn't turn them a profit and just eat up into the resources. More than that, there are too many variables. Even asexual people are either gay, bi, or straight. Then talking about other sexual that haven't been implemented yet like transexuals. There are so many sexualities out there, and resources aren't limited. The number of options are very limited in the first place. Include options for variations of the sexual ones like straight, gay, and bi would really depend on the writers, seeing as how Josephine was written to be ambiguous, so people could decide her as whatever. 

 

Uhh, yes they are. Resources are very limited. That's the entire reason things like budgets exist.


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Uhh, yes they are. Resources are very limited. That's the entire reason things like budgets exist.

Typo. That's my entire argument, resource limitation.


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Modding is not really up to Bioware but up to EA since they own the engine, and I don't think they would allow their engine to be made available for the common folks, not that Frostbite is easy to mod in the first place anyway.

Technically, Frostbite belongs to DICE, and both them and Bioware have said that if they have the time and resources, they will release a toolkit. Also, releasing a toolkit, like GECK for FO3/4 or REDKit for Witcher 2 (both used with proprietary game engines), is very different from releasing the whole engine.



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Also on subject, I keep forgetting to watch it, but BW already said during a panel they would look into including asexual and polyamorous relationships in the future.

http://www.polygon.c...e-relationships



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Also on subject, I keep forgetting to watch it, but BW already said during a panel they would look into including asexual and polyamorous relationships in the future.

http://www.polygon.c...e-relationships

 

Do you mean poly as in banging the whole crew in one playthrough? I heard people did that in me2 lol