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If the species of the current cycle can reach Andromeda, then the Reapers and Leviathans can do it, too


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We don't know if the Intelligence's grand experiment ever included Andromeda, but do you think the Leviathans had an interest in moving beyond the Milky Way? I find it hard to believe that the galaxy's most advanced species never established a presence in Andromeda. Unless they were content to run just one galaxy. 

 

Also, it's worth reminding everyone that mass effect technology is Reaper technology. Thus, is it possible that the Reapers will always have some role to play in the future of this series?


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The Reapers are no longer a threat



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It's possile. In fact the discovery of civilization from previous 'cycles' in Andromeda may even be a subplot or even part of the main plot of the game.


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We don't know if the Intelligence's grand experiment ever included Andromeda, but do you think the Leviathans had an interest in moving beyond the Milky Way? I find it hard to believe that the galaxy's most advanced species never established a presence in Andromeda. Unless they were content to run just one galaxy. 

 

Also, it's worth reminding everyone that mass effect technology is Reaper technology. Thus, is it possible that the Reapers will always have some role to play in the future of this series?

It's going to take some serious handwaving to explain why there are no Leviathans or Reapers in Andromeda.


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We don't know if the Intelligence's grand experiment ever included Andromeda, but do you think the Leviathans had an interest in moving beyond the Milky Way? I find it hard to believe that the galaxy's most advanced species never established a presence in Andromeda. Unless they were content to run just one galaxy.

Also, it's worth reminding everyone that mass effect technology is Reaper technology. Thus, is it possible that the Reapers will always have some role to play in the future of this series?


Considering that the Reapers we're nothing more than the Milky Ways galactic janitors for some star brat

I find it very believe able
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It's going to take some serious handwaving to explain why there are no Leviathans or Reapers in Andromeda.


No it isn't
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I can see Bioware having the Reapers having visited Andromeda in the past, maybe harvesting it like they do the Milky Way. That would solve quite a few things too, like how we can suddenly get to Andromeda, why there isn't a Leviathan-tier or higher species dominating it, and letting us have iconic Mass Effect stuff like the Mass Relays. 



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Has BioWare said anything about Andromeda being a stand-alone game? Exploring a whole new galaxy seems too big for just one game. I also kind of suspect that the Mass Effect series will eventually take us back to the Milky Way. It would make a lot of sense to return to the cradle of humanity after being away for a long time.


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No it isn't

"Resources"  Or lack therof?


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Has BioWare said anything about Andromeda being a stand-alone game? Exploring a whole new galaxy seems too big for just one game. I also kind of suspect that the Mass Effect series will eventually take us back to the Milky Way. It would make a lot of sense to return to the cradle of humanity after being away for a long time.

From the sounds of it, there will be more games than just this one set in the Andromeda galaxy. Mac Walters and Aaryn Flynn discussed how this game will explore a small part of the Andromeda galaxy, and future games will explore more and more of it. However whether this game is the first in a duology, trilogy, or saga rather than a stand-alone hasn't been discussed yet. 



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"Resources" Or lack therof?


Or just not going there because they're nothing more than Galactic Janitors for the Milky Way
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It's going to take some serious handwaving to explain why there are no Leviathans or Reapers in Andromeda.


Why? The Reapers/Starbabby are demonstrably stupid, and the Leviathans were alpha predators that got spanked down to the bottom of an ocean in the middle of nowhere. Why assume that they would think of everything our cycle's scientists could come up with? That's entirely illogical. If breakthroughs worked like that we would have had flying cars and free energy by now.
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To be honest, I just can't see BioWare ignoring the ME3 endings. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the plot is the mystery of what happened in the Milky Way. And if there is evidence of Reapers in Andromeda, then that makes the mystery even more compelling. It would also be really cool if your ending choice somehow influences the future of Andromeda. So instead of ignoring the endings, BioWare can acknowledge the true scale of those choices. Their consequences would be so enormous that we feel them all the way in Andromeda. An unique concept for a sequel: witnessing the results from a distance, instead of ground zero.



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To be honest, I just can't see BioWare ignoring the ME3 endings. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the plot is the mystery of what happened in the Milky Way. And if there is evidence of Reapers in Andromeda, then that makes the mystery even more compelling. It would also be really cool if your ending choice somehow influences the future of Andromeda. So instead of ignoring the endings, BioWare can acknowledge the true scale of those choices. Their consequences would be so enormous that we feel them all the way in Andromeda. An unique concept for a sequel: witnessing the results from a distance, instead of ground zero.


Never gonna happen. It's not realistic at all.

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Simple...The Reapers/Leviathans Came, They saw... They got their asses kicked by something in the Andromeda Galaxy -Behemoths.... Space Marine versions of Deathclaws... Yes DeathClaws in power armor!- and turned tail and ran back to the safety of the Milky way

 

 

Basically if the Reapers show up in any capacity it would be used to prop up the new villains or the overall dangers of the Andromeda Galaxy... Even Reapers wouldn't come here... Thus We who have come to make it our new home will do what even the Reapers could not do... Thrive... Thus their defeat is Two fold.

 

 

I mean Other then being a bonus faction in the Mplay mode.


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To be honest, I just can't see BioWare ignoring the ME3 endings. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the plot is the mystery of what happened in the Milky Way. And if there is evidence of Reapers in Andromeda, then that makes the mystery even more compelling. It would also be really cool if your ending choice somehow influences the future of Andromeda. So instead of ignoring the endings, BioWare can acknowledge the true scale of those choices. Their consequences would be so enormous that we feel them all the way in Andromeda. An unique concept for a sequel: witnessing the results from a distance, instead of ground zero.


You're really over thinking this one imo

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Considering that the Reapers we're nothing more than the Milky Ways galactic janitors for some star brat

I find it very believe able

The Reaper's mandate is to "preserve all life" it didn't specify a particular galaxy so it would be logical to expand it to other galaxies.


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The Reaper's mandate is to "preserve all life" it didn't specify a particular galaxy so it would be logical to expand it to other galaxies.

 

Forgive their lack of accuracy in that one particular statement but I'm fairly certain they were referring to the Milky Way only.

 

We've been told they hibernate between the climax of the cycle, so we have no reason to believe that they take galactic side trips.


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You're really over thinking this one imo

Better than underthinking it. There is far too much cynicism about the series after ME3, which is a tragedy. I really liked the ending concepts, and it would be great to see BioWare explore their consequences in unexpected ways.



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Up until this last cycle, the Intelligence failed to solve the problem the Leviathan gave it in its mandate. Considering that, why would it bother investing time and resources into other galaxies when it's yet to fix the current one? Also, the Intelligence relies on a ruse in the form of the mass relay network in order to facilitate its plans, which also requires a hub designed to lure spacefaring species. Would it have copied itself and built a Citadel Mk. II in Andromeda? Just how long would this even take? Just how long were the reapers really around that they would have had time to accomplish this? 

 

As for the Leviathan, there's any number of possible reasons that they couldn't leave the galaxy. When the Intelligence betrayed them, they may have lost the resources necessary to even attempt the feat. After all, they rely on other species to do the work for them, species that were undoubtedly wiped out by the reapers. They may have been pinned down for eons, relying on their space pilantirs to observe and occasionally hijack a few minds to help them, but never enough to get the ball rolling for the cuttelfish exodus. 


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Up until this last cycle, the Intelligence failed to solve the problem the Leviathan gave it in its mandate. Considering that, why would it bother investing time and resources into other galaxies when it's yet to fix the current one? 

Because another galaxy may have the solution to the problem for this galaxy. 


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Does it makes sense from in-game perspective? Sure.

 

However, EAware is interested in salvaging their potentially lucrative franchise from the ruins of the ME3 ending,

therefore they are going to distance themselves from everything connected to this disaster as much as possible.


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Forgive their lack of accuracy in that one particular statement but I'm fairly certain they were referring to the Milky Way only.

 

We've been told they hibernate between the climax of the cycle, so we have no reason to believe that they take galactic side trips.

At no pointed did the mandate refereed to the MW in particular just "preserve all life" add to that the reaper's existed for billions that's more than enough time to establish a presence in other galaxies.



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Because another galaxy may have the solution to the problem for this galaxy. 

 

What meaningful difference would there be between the two galaxies that the solution it seeks would be more apparent in one than in the other? The laws of nature wouldn't change between them. 



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At no pointed did the mandate refereed to the MW in particular just "preserve all life" add to that the reaper's existed for billions that's more than enough time to establish a presence in other galaxies.

 

In even a billion years (I don't recall any reference that determines that they were around for multi-billion), the reapers may not have been around long enough, or have the numbers to build the mass relay network in multiple galaxies. The Andromeda galaxy would have only been in the low single digit age beyond that, so may not even have anything of interest to make the endeavor worth it.