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If the species of the current cycle can reach Andromeda, then the Reapers and Leviathans can do it, too


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#276
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On a serious note.  I'm indifferent about hairstyles.

 

Minimalist look of buzz cut Shep ftw



#277
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Your hair must look like crap irl.

My hair sucks in RL, it's a frizzy, curly mess, so video game hair is a relief from dealing with it. 



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My hair sucks in RL, it's a frizzy, curly mess, so video game hair is a relief from dealing with it. 

 

 

I'd pay good money and someone's first born for a mirror of transformation. Imagine just being able to snap your fingers and *poof*, you can just swap different hairstyles. 


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I'd pay good money and someone's first born for a mirror of transformation. Imagine just being able to snap your fingers and *poof*, you can just swap different hairstyles. 

Oh if the emporium existed - it'd actually cost so much money to actually go there... 



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For most of the time, the Reapers reside outside the Milky Way Galaxy... in dark space.

 

 

Dark space (or intergalactic space) is the name of the physical space between galaxies in the same way as interstellar space is the space between stars within a galaxy. Dark space is completely dark, as it contains little to no stars and makes up almost the entire volume of the universe,

 

There is certainly nothing to say that the Reapers could not have reached Andromeda and harvested it in cycles similar to how they harvested the Milky Way.  There is nothing really that says that Mass Relays can't already exist in the Andromeda Galaxy or another Citadel, etc.  Although, if Mass Relays existed outside the Milky Way, why would the energy of the Crucible stop at the galactic boundary?  Do we even really know that firing it had absolutely no effects outside the Milky Way?

 

The other thing I've noticed is an apparent reluctance to mention something very obvious to me from the trailer... the enemies we see are very similar to Brutes and Harvesters... both enemies from the Reaper War in the Milky Way.

 

To quote Shepard:  "Don't pretend you know where this is going." (to Petrovsky in the Omega DLC).  It might be some rather good advice for us... we really just don't know where Bioware is eventually taking this series.



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The Reapers have no reason to go to Andromeda when they're focusing on the MW. ;)

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The Reapers have no reason to go to Andromeda when they're focusing on the MW. ;)

 

Sure they did. The Catalyst was searching for a solution to his big problem. For millions of years, I imagine.

 

If it was actually in his capability to go to Andromeda and there was a history of life there, it'd be smart to examine when/how/if they came up with solutions of their own. At the very least, just to add to it's data. No good researcher would willingly ignore a large source of information.

 

Catalyst cared about an abstract subject, so it would apply knowledge from anywhere. It didn't care only about the Milky Way, but the Synthetic problem, period.


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Sure they did. The Catalyst was searching for a solution to his big problem. For millions of years, I imagine.

If it was actually in his capability to go to Andromeda and there was a history of life there, it'd be smart to examine when/how/if they came up with solutions of their own. At the very least, just to add to it's data.

Catalyst cared about an abstract subject, so it would apply knowledge from anywhere. It didn't care only about the Milky Way, but the Synthetic problem, period.

It's bull. They go back to darkspace to hibernate. They leave a vanguard and come back. They built the mass relays and citadel. Unless they built a super mass relay it would take them more than 50 thousand year to get there. They were created by MW races to solve their problem. They don't have the time or the programming to go to Andromeda. The catalyst is in the MW. They aren't concerned about other galaxies cause that's not their purpose. If they go to Andromeda they have to go to all the other galaxies and purge which is unrealistic considering the time in between harvests. They do that every 50,000 years to let civilizations evolve and hibernate. That's lore. If they went to other galaxies surely we would know by now. They're not gonna be in Andromeda so it's confirmed. No more reapers. Unless they put that in Andromeda which is highly unlikely then no Reapers. Oh yeah let's solve the synthetic problem by going to every galaxy. No.

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It's bull. They go back to darkspace to hibernate. They leave a vanguard and come back. They built the mass relays and citadel. Unless they built a super mass relay it would take them more than 50 thousand year to get there. They were created by MW races to solve their problem. They don't have the time or the programming to go to Andromeda. The catalyst is in the MW. They aren't concerned about other galaxies cause that's not their purpose. If they go to Andromeda they have to go to all the other galaxies and purge which is unrealistic considering the time in between harvests. They do that every 50,000 years to let civilizations evolve and hibernate. That's lore. If they went to other galaxies surely we would know by now. They're not gonna be in Andromeda so it's confirmed. No more reapers. Unless they put that in Andromeda which is highly unlikely then no Reapers. Oh yeah let's solve the synthetic problem by going to every galaxy. No.

 

What kind of reply is that? "Bull".

 

I didn't say they DID go there necessarily. I'm saying they'd have a reason to go there. You said they had no reason. I offered one. Everything about the Catalyst's problem is bigger than the Milky Way alone. 

 



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What kind of reply is that? "Bull".

I didn't say they DID go there necessarily. I'm saying they'd have a reason to go there. You said they had no reason. I offered one.

I was talking about them actually going not what you said. A reason? Maybe so but its beyond their concerns.

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I was talking about them actually going not what you said. A reason? Maybe so but its beyond their concerns.

 

It is not beyond their concerns.

 

Do you understand concrete problems vs abstract ones? The Catalyst was wholly focused on the latter. He's a godlike AI. The ME3 ending was intended to be grand-scale. The Milky Way was a stage, but the scope was the nature of life and existence itself.



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It is not beyond their concerns.

Do you understand concrete problems vs abstract ones? The Catalyst was wholly focused on the latter. He's an godlike AI. The ME3 ending was intended to be grand-scale. The Milky Way was a stage, but the stakes were the nature of life and existence itself.

True but they haven't found a permanent solution.

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True but they haven't found a permanent solution.

 

I don't believe they did on their own. But he thought he found it in Shepard (Synthesis).



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I don't believe they did on their own. But he thought he found it in Shepard (Synthesis).

Well that's how you do it. Synthesis is alright but are the green eyes and lines necessary? They look pretty but I wouldn't want to live like that. But you have to adapt to change.

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Well that's how you do it. Synthesis is alright but are the green eyes and lines necessary? They look pretty but I wouldn't want to live like that. But you have to adapt to change.

 

I don't like it either. For the very reason the Catalyst says.. people have to be ready for it. I know I'm not.

 

But my point is, if he was on such a grand quest, then they should have looked in all kinds of places. And not just wait for some soldier, from an ape like species in the middle of nowhere.



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I don't like it either. For the very reason the Catalyst says.. people have to be ready for it. I know I'm not.

But my point is, if he was on such a grand quest, then they should have looked in all kinds of places. And not just wait for some soldier, from an ape like species in the middle of nowhere.

We'll be ready for it in a billion years. It would've been better if we just had some glowy mark on our back or somethin.

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We'll be ready for it in a billion years. It would've been better if we just had some glowy mark on our back or somethin.

 

That's what I like about destroy.. it's not that I hate the others.. It's just the one that promotes independence and normal evolution. Maybe it'll all happen eventually, but people will do it themselves, in their own time. 



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Of course they could have. The Reapers lived in the dark space between galaxies already, if they could fly towards one they could certainly fly towards another. Simplest explanation I can think of is; assuming space is infinite, and therefore the amount of galaxies are infinite, if the Reapers chose to do the same to every other galaxy what they've done the MW then their task would never be complete. They would never accomplish the order and equilibrium they're obsessed with. By artificially limiting the scope of the universe to a single galaxy, they can achieve absolute control.

 

Every cycle is limited to 50k years, approximately. Any given species evolves along predictable scientific guidelines and is culled before they can go too far beyond. Reapers live in the dark space on the outskirts preventing anything from getting in, or getting out. The Milky Way is a perfectly contained and planned out ecosystem. The Reapers simply have no desire to go anywhere else, they've got everything figured out here.

 

Fortunately for the Ark program, when all the Reapers in dark space converged on the inhabited systems of the galaxy, that gave them their window to escape. Had they tried it too soon, no doubt they'd be stopped by Reapers on the border.



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That's what I like about destroy.. it's not that I hate the others.. It's just the one that promotes independence and normal evolution. Maybe it'll all happen eventually, but people will do it themselves, in their own time.

True,I get that. I dont like it because you have to sacrifice Edi and the Geth. It's sad to me. I'd pick control to use the Reapers to protect and defend the galaxy. But yeah they should've just had an ending telling the catalyst to screw off and let us find our own solution and to evolve on our own.

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I soooooo don't wanna find Reapers in Andromeda. Leviathans? Maaaybe.



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I soooooo don't wanna find Reapers in Andromeda. Leviathans? Maaaybe.

Doubt We'd find leviathans. They hide in the MW.

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Simplest explanation I can think of is; assuming space is infinite, and therefore the amount of galaxies are infinite, if the Reapers chose to do the same to every other galaxy what they've done the MW then their task would never be complete.

 

I guess that works, but like I was saying above, I would think the Catalyst would want to learn and collect info at least. Maybe controlling everything is out of their scope, but it just makes the Catalyst even more flawed than I thought... if it willingly cut itself off a source of information.


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#298
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You know what would be actually kind of cool?

Discovering that the Reapers did reach Andromeda, and got driven out by something even scarier than them.



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You know what would be actually kind of cool?

Discovering that the Reapers did reach Andromeda, and got driven out by something even scarier than them.

What could possibly be worse than the Reapers, though?

 

Tyranids?

Daleks?

Yuuzon Vong?


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What could possibly be worse than the Reapers, though?

Tyranids?
Daleks?
Yuuzon Vong?

White Walkers?
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