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[Hanako Ikezawa]

What meaningful difference would there be between the two galaxies that the solution it seeks would be more apparent in one than in the other? The laws of nature wouldn't change between them. 

It is only logical for an experiment to have as large a sample size as possible both to test different variables and observe results. The other galaxies would have had life and societies evolve differently and may have even come to a solution. If not, the Reapers could do a different test to see if that is more or less effective, like say maybe a harvest every 100,000 years rather than 50,000.

[Scofield]

ppl are putting far to much thought into connecting this STANDALONE game with the other STANDALONE trilogy, only thing that needs connect them is the name on the box

[Hanako Ikezawa]

ppl are putting far to much thought into connecting this STANDALONE game with the other STANDALONE trilogy, only thing that needs connect them is the name on the box

They need much more than that. They need things like the lore, the races, the technology, etc. 

[DarthSliver]

Lets be honest here MEA is being treated like Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens was, its probably going to mostly pretend MEtrilogy didn't exist like The Force Awakens did to the Star Wars Prequels. They are separating the bad blood from the good blood so the ME series can be brought back, the ME3 ending really tainted the blood of ME series. The only things MEA will have that relates to MEtrilogy is the stuff that it needs to make it a good game and set in the ME universe. 

[Undead Han]

"Resources"  Or lack therof?

 

The Reapers not going to Andromeda could boil down to programming. The Catalyst was designed to monitor the Milky Way, so its own coding might prevent it from having an interest in affairs outside its parent galaxy. That is of course assuming that the Reapers never went to Andromeda. It may turn out once Andromeda ships that the Reapers were active in the entire Local Group, and they're the reason why the Remnant became the Remnant. 

 

The Leviathans not colonizing Andromeda wouldn't necessarily be implausible either. The Milky Way is incredibly vast, with between 100 and 400 billion stars, most of which are likely to have orbiting planets. There would be no compelling reason to leave on such a long and dangerous intergalactic voyage, when your parent galaxy provides more than enough resources than you'd ever need and with many more planets than you could probably ever colonize. If the Leviathans did go intergalactic, there are also other galaxies closer to home than Andromeda.  The Magellanic Clouds should be the next stop after the Milky Way, if exploration and colonization is the goal. 

 

On that note I'm hoping the Reaper War is the reason why the Milky Way colonists set out for Andromeda. I think that works as a more compelling reason to go so far from home than exploration, particularly when less than 1% of the Milky Way was explored by the current cycle and the Magellanic Clouds are closer.

[ZipZap2000]

I'll say this.

If the plot for Andromeda is: Just joking there really is a deeper meaning behind the Reapers and this was all part of a ruse before the real, really real truth is revealed.


I will be pissed.

[Remix-General Aetius]

It's possile. In fact the discovery of civilization from previous 'cycles' in Andromeda may even be a subplot or even part of the main plot of the game.

 

HA that's what I said a few days ago.

 

http://forum.bioware...ve-an-ark-ship/

[wright1978]

Why would the reapers slep all the way over there when they know their favourite organic burger and fries joint will be serving them each cycle.

Remaining Leviathans are just trying to syat under the radar. Making a break for Andromeda when reapers were likely watching would be bad and during cycle Reapers seem pretty excited at prospect of a whale burger.

[ZipZap2000]

It's possile. In fact the discovery of civilization from previous 'cycles' in Andromeda may even be a subplot or even part of the main plot of the game.

Maker, no I can see it now.

That muddies the waters enough that we aren't the invading bad guys we're just playing catch up to everyone else who made it out.

Please don't let it happen.

[HSomCokeSniper]

It's possile. In fact the discovery of civilization from previous 'cycles' in Andromeda may even be a subplot or even part of the main plot of the game.

 

 

Maker, no I can see it now.

That muddies the waters enough that we aren't the invading bad guys we're just playing catch up to everyone else who made it out.

Please don't let it happen.

 

As I see it, this is the only way to ensure this Andromeda expedition makes any sense.

Some knowledge that previous cycles went there, how they did it and most importantly WHERE they went.

 

Even a discovery of mass relay link to Andromeda would make more sense than just traveling there haphazardly.

Either that or the new expedition combs new solar systems with conventional FTL drive for hundreds of years without finding a single habitable planet or a lifeform, after which they conclude that this place is just a tad too big for us to explore.

[Ahriman]

Maker, no I can see it now.

That muddies the waters enough that we aren't the invading bad guys we're just playing catch up to everyone else who made it out.

Please don't let it happen.

Spoiler

-We must accelerate our plans. Begin landing more troops. I should go.

[Iakus]

Why? The Reapers/Starbabby are demonstrably stupid, and the Leviathans were alpha predators that got spanked down to the bottom of an ocean in the middle of nowhere. Why assume that they would think of everything our cycle's scientists could come up with? That's entirely illogical. If breakthroughs worked like that we would have had flying cars and free energy by now.

While the Reapers were stupid, they were also stupidly focused on their mandate to "preserve life at any cost"

 

And the Leviathans were once the alpha species, and had a huge empire.

[Iakus]

Why would the reapers slep all the way over there when they know their favourite organic burger and fries joint will be serving them each cycle.

Remaining Leviathans are just trying to syat under the radar. Making a break for Andromeda when reapers were likely watching would be bad and during cycle Reapers seem pretty excited at prospect of a whale burger.

THere is no way in hell the Reapers could have watched the entire galactic perimeter.  That on top of ships in ftl being untrackable anyway.

[Iakus]

The Reapers not going to Andromeda could boil down to programming. The Catalyst was designed to monitor the Milky Way, so its own coding might prevent it from having an interest in affairs outside its parent galaxy. That is of course assuming that the Reapers never went to Andromeda. It may turn out once Andromeda ships that the Reapers were active in the entire Local Group, and they're the reason why the Remnant became the Remnant. 

 

There is zero evidence limiting Reaper programming to the Milky Way.  Just the opposite, in fact, as their mandate is to "preserve life at any cost"  No limitations to any particular area.

 

 

 

The Leviathans not colonizing Andromeda wouldn't necessarily be implausible either. The Milky Way is incredibly vast, with between 100 and 400 billion stars, most of which are likely to have orbiting planets. There would be no compelling reason to leave on such a long and dangerous intergalactic voyage, when your parent galaxy provides more than enough resources than you'd ever need and with many more planets than you could probably ever colonize. If the Leviathans did go intergalactic, there are also other galaxies closer to home than Andromeda.  The Magellanic Clouds should be the next stop after the Milky Way, if exploration and colonization is the goal.

 

Such evidence can just as easily be why humanity wouldn't bother with Andromeda.

 

If the Leviathans couldn't or wouldn't go there, why would be?  It's the general problem with shifting to that galaxy to begin with.  What's our compelling reason?

 

 

On that note I'm hoping the Reaper War is the reason why the Milky Way colonists set out for Andromeda. I think that works as a more compelling reason to go so far from home than exploration, particularly when less than 1% of the Milky Way was explored by the current cycle and the Magellanic Clouds are closer.

Which of course leads to "How the frak did we get the tech to go there"?

[wright1978]

THere is no way in hell the Reapers could have watched the entire galactic perimeter.  That on top of ships in ftl being untrackable anyway.

 

Or Maybe a simpler explanation

 

[Beerfish]

Ah yes Reapers and Leviathans.....

 

[ThomasBlaine]

I agree, if this Ark thing could get somewhere then the Reapers could too. Since they apparently haven't, it leads me to believe that the Reapers weren't interested in expanding their activities that far, or at least not until they had grown in sufficient numbers to do so without losing their grip on our galaxy. As machines programmed for a singular unrelated goal, the never-being-satisfied-with-what-you-have tendency of sentient species probably doesn't apply to them.

[Killroy]

While the Reapers were stupid, they were also stupidly focused on their mandate to "preserve life at any cost"
 
And the Leviathans were once the alpha species, and had a huge empire.

Yes, Reapers are stupid and single-minded. Hardly the engines for great breakthroughs. And the Leviathans are essentially parasites that grew an empire, not omniscient scientific minds.
There is no coherent argument that can be made in defense of "whatever our cycle might come up with the Reapers/Leviathans/past cycles would have already done it." It's entirely illogical.

[N7Jamaican]

I don't mind hints that the reapers came to Andromeda. Maybe even a side-quest chain where you're sent to investigate "a strange artifact that resembles Reaper technology," then you could either destroy it, use it for research, or leave it alone. But I don't want it to be Mass Effect Andromeda with a recycled plot line from the original trilogy.

[9TailsFox]

It's going to take some serious handwaving to explain why there are no Leviathans or Reapers in Andromeda.

Species resistant to Indoctrination and more powerful weapons/shields. Remnants beat crap out off every reaper who come to Andromeda until they stopped coming.

[Iakus]

Yes, Reapers are stupid and single-minded. Hardly the engines for great breakthroughs. And the Leviathans are essentially parasites that grew an empire, not omniscient scientific minds.
There is no coherent argument that can be made in defense of "whatever our cycle might come up with the Reapers/Leviathans/past cycles would have already done it." It's entirely illogical.

 

Except the Reapers (and, quite likely, the Leviathans) are master of mass effect technology.  The very tech that's the basis of the advanced tech of all the other races.  Whatever we had, they had, and had better versions of.

[Iakus]

Species resistant to Indoctrination and more powerful weapons/shields. Remnants beat crap out off every reaper who come to Andromeda until they stopped coming.

So we get to Andromeda and find it's ruled by something even more powerful than the Reapers.

 

How is this better?  We weren't even allowed to "win" against the Reapers without RGB space magic.

[9TailsFox]

So we get to Andromeda and find it's ruled by something even more powerful than the Reapers.

 

How is this better?  We weren't even allowed to "win" against the Reapers without RGB space magic.

We couldn't win because Bioware made reaper OP and invincible when they wasn't. I still don't understand why with so much reaper tech we couldn't find how reapers shield works because without shields you can just one shot them. Fine developers said they invincible because we need space magic ok. But looks like Remnanats not even in Andromeda any more maybe they left to explore further. 

 

Or simple. If force A is stronger than force B, force B stronger than force C, it don't automatically mean that force A stronger than force C.

And everyone in human council, citadel council, quarians council are idiots you get what I mean everyone in our galaxy in charge more or less is moron. If they listen to Shepard galaxy would have prepared. Maybe remnants just competent.

[Iakus]

ppl are putting far to much thought into connecting this STANDALONE game with the other STANDALONE trilogy, only thing that needs connect them is the name on the box

If it was a truly standalone game, it wouldn't have "Mass Effect" in its title.

[NM_Che56]

I don't think the question is "can they", but rather "why would they" (i.e. they were content with their space in the Milky Way).

 

But that doesn't matter.  BioWare has made it clear that this will be a new story, with new characters in a new setting and will not have anything to do with the events of the trilogy.