Playing through Pillars of Eternity, I can appreciate how the hard limit forces me to use powers very deliberately. Of course, I do find the system a bit too restrictive, which is why I restarted the game as a Cipher.
Yeah, same here. That said, Cypher kind of seems closer to the topic of the game, so there's more than just a gameplay reason to choose it.
From a balance point of view... I don't mind being a special overpowered snowflake in single player. A full biotic team (Liara, Javik, Shepard) in ME3 was unstoppable, everything died before I could use my gun. I don't think people seriously complained about that then, so why do it now?
A lot of people wanted more challenge out of single player.
The player character being more powerful than other characters when compared one on one isn't a big deal. The issue is when the player is so powerful that squadmates are largely redundant and encounters with 8 enemies at once are near trivial. That is what the difficulty setting in the options menu is for.
A lot of people wanted more challenge out of single player.
The player character being more powerful than other characters when compared one on one isn't a big deal. The issue is when the player is so powerful that squadmates are largely redundant and encounters with 8 enemies at once are near trivial. That is what the difficulty setting in the options menu is for.
I suppose a lore-friendly way would be to allow biotics to do one or two absolutely devastating attacks, then be exhausted and effectively useless for the rest of the mission.
I don’t understand that, nor do I accept it as true.Logically, I understand that the classes must be balanced as much as possible, not just because MP, but because the other classes should be equally viable.
This problem would go away if all the characters followed the same rules.A lot of people wanted more challenge out of single player.
The player character being more powerful than other characters when compared one on one isn't a big deal. The issue is when the player is so powerful that squadmates are largely redundant and encounters with 8 enemies at once are near trivial. That is what the difficulty setting in the options menu is for.
If the lore says Jack should be more powerful than Shepard
Except it doesn't. Writers never compare them due to Shepard's Schrodinger biotic abilities.
+ 1 approve of your profile pic lol
Anyway while you are at "Why can't I do it" stuff, I would like that this time our protagonist acted as his/her class.
I mean it always bothered me to no end that all classes just felt like huge cosmetic slap on soldier class. I mean remember when you were saving 'Grissom Academy' and when Jack used her biotics to shatter glass in order to save Rodriguez while your Shepard(even adept one that "could have pulled same stunt) relayed more on trying to break glass with rifle rather then use the damn power he/she had instead.
So please BW, let us feel the class we are playing in here don't do this:
If biotics was suppose to be OP i don't think Jack would be the last of our worries when we got Asaris
natural born Biotics, lets not forget about the Justicars
You didn't, I was just saying you could have left it out and it would still have been accurate.
Cause destruction magic in Skryim is really weak in general =P
Yep, bandit chief wearing full elven armor against your destruction magic, YA DONE.
Like I said earlier on, I think it comes down to how they designed the gameplay and they need to change it so we don't feel like we're playing as a brick that can't move, slide or jump. To be able to be like Jack and Samara in their cut scenes, the game would have to play more like Infamous or Uncharted. None of this standing there and pulling singularity as if you're glued to the ground.
Yep, bandit chief wearing full elven armor against your destruction magic, YA DONE.
Like I said earlier on, I think it comes down to how they designed the gameplay and they need to change it so we don't feel like we're playing as a brick that can't move, slide or jump. To be able to be like Jack and Samara in their cut scenes, the game would have to play more like Infamous or Uncharted. None of this standing there and pulling singularity as if you're glued to the ground.
If you want movement there's always Vanguard...
Also, it's not like Samara or Jack just started flying inFamous style. At most, Biotics can fall gracefully.
If the protagonist is always biotic, it would work out. I mean, Shepard was always biotic, even if they didn't use it. (Which is yet another plothole)
Infiltrator Shepard with Tactical Cloak > Flare (Aria's unique OP biotic power) took out entire groups instantly, there was zero balance.
MP (well, do we even know that there will be an actual MP?) doesn't have to feature characters like that, we could play just the normal grunts again.
Well, I really hope we have MP, and I really hope I can play something like the ME3 vanguard. 
I think it would be foolish for them not to do MP, because it does seem like it makes a lot of money.
Mainly because the Asari would kick everyone's arses. Although there is some in game lore justification for that anyway, e.g.:
The Serrice Guard set out to stop Blood Pack mercenaries attempting to enslave asari colonies in the Terminus Systems. After a ship-to-ship fight, the commandos and mercs crash-landed. With no means to contact Thessia, the surviving asari continued to engage the grounded Blood Pack, whittling down the frustrated slavers with traps, ambushes, and nighttime offensives. After nine days and more than 100 casualties, the Blood Pack surrendered. And the mercenaries were astonished to learn they had only been battling five asari commandos. Although the Guard downplayed their heroics, they became instant celebrities upon their return to Thessia.
I can just imagine how that would go down on the BSN.
Yet more proof of asari superiority.
#AsariMasterRace
Just because they beat some barely sapient krogan and vorcha troglodytes in a mere 100v5 (effectively 20-1 odds)? Congratulations, with your amazing space magic you've the same sort of individual effectiveness as.........some totally not magic Russian Conscripts (unless you include the magic of a crushing Orwellian depression induced and vodka fuelled zapoy).
https://en.wikipedia...e_for_Hill_3234
How about those 17,000,000 quarians who take out literally billions of geth networked platforms and possibly trillions of their programs before the Reapers get involved on the side of their loser machine bretheren and spoil the fun (though optionally not for long if you take their Pinnochicode back away, as you should). If we just assume 7 billion networked geth platforms (seems very conservative given that they stole a half dozen systems while modern Earth alone has more human bodies than that) we get.......
412-1 odds, and even if you traitorously give the toasters the code and we lose solely because they used a douchey Shepard ghosting on our team, and then teamstacked way more players than us, we still get to keep that unassailable K/D ratio. Further, our reputation is untouched either way, because none of the Lesser races managed to beat our toasters, either (unless you pick destroy, which doesn't count because no one did it by themselves, with their own tech) so our superiority continues to live on.
Asari Master Race? Please, y'all can't even bring 800 war assets to the table (y'know, the one with the stripper pole, which we could run you off of easily if we really felt the need to sink so low just to prove it). Here's a credit chit to stick in your thong for your services though....I took it from a dumb volus.
#Keepdreamin'T'soni. #TrueMasterRace
tho this does bring up the counterpoint that using this logic, Starbrat has the Highest K/D ratio in intergalactic history and is actually the Supreme Master Race status, but we'll ignore that.
Oh yea, biotics or something. They suck аss, which is why quarians don't even bother with them even tho we totally could, and we still end up the best. Even the toasters modeled in our glorious image, and endowed with the infinite processing power of a mind the size of a galactic arm, judged that biotics were useless, instead inventing the brilliant thermal clip (which you can thank us for as well, I suppose).
Glorious, intellectually endowed Tech Master Race> Biotic Peasant races.
Just because they beat some barely sapient krogan and vorcha troglodytes in a mere 100v5 (effectively 20-1 odds)? Congratulations, with your amazing space magic you've the same sort of individual effectiveness as.........some totally not magic Russian Conscripts (unless you include the magic of a crushing Orwellian depression induced and vodka fuelled zapoy).
https://en.wikipedia...e_for_Hill_3234
How about those 17,000,000 quarians who take out literally billions of geth networked platforms and possibly trillions of their programs before the Reapers get involved on the side of their loser machine bretheren and spoil the fun (though optionally not for long if you take their Pinnochicode back away, as you should). If we just assume 7 billion networked geth platforms (seems very conservative given that they own a half dozen systems while modern Earth alone has more human bodies than that) we get.......
412-1 odds, and even if you traitorously give the toasters the code and we lose solely because they used a douchey Shepard ghosting on our team, and then teamstacked way more players than us, we still get to keep that unassailable K/D ratio. Further, our reputation is untouched either way, because none of the Lesser races managed to beat our toasters, either (unless you pick destroy, which doesn't count because no one did it by themselves) so our superiority continues to live on.
Asari Master Race? Please, y'all can't even bring 800 war assets to the table (y'know, the one with the stripper pole, which we could run you off of easily if we really felt the need to sink so low just to prove it). Here's a credit chit to stick in your thong for your services though....I took it from a dumb volus.
#Keepdreamin'T'soni. #TrueMasterRacetho this does bring up the counterpoint that using this logic, Starbrat has the Highest K/D ratio in intergalactic history and is actually the Supreme Master Race status, but we'll ignore that.Oh yea, biotics or something. They suck аss, which is why quarians don't even bother with them even tho we totally could, and we still end up the best. Even the toasters modeled in our glorious image, and endowed with the infinite processing power of a mind the size of a galactic arm judged that biotics were useless, instead inventing the brilliant thermal clip (which you can thank us for as well, I suppose).
Glorious, intellectually endowed Tech Master Race> Biotic Peasant races.
Human Master Race, tho.
But Quarians can always tag along because they have such sexy voices
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Meh. Not very convincing.
I miss the potency of ME's biotic powers.
Lifting a colossus is pretty extreme. I mean, how does someone who can do this not utterly crush enemies like overripe avocados?
It is never said in the games that the Protheans made the Asari biotics. Javik only says that the Protheans taught the primitive Asari mathematics and defended the planet from both an asteroid strike and invasion. He never says that the Protheans genetically engineered them.
The Protheans being responsible for Asari biotics is rather unlikely actually, considering that Thessia is the most eezo-rich of known planets in the galaxy and that most forms of animal life on the planet also are biotics. It is far more likely that the Asari evolved biotic ability naturally from evolving in an environment permeating with dust-form eezo.
It would also be impossible for the Protheans to have seeded Thessia with eezo. Had the Protheans seeded the planet with eezo (the only means of doing this would be slamming asteroids into it), it would have surely wiped out the Asari and most forms of life. 50,000 years also isn't enough time for life to recover and birth a space-faring civilization into existence.
Actually, it was said by Javik. Also, from wiki/Codex: "The Protheans also genetically altered the asari to grant them biotic capabilities, and defended Thessia from an asteroid strike and the resource-hungry oravores." Naturally occuring Eezo is found after supernovas. I think we can agree that Thessia didn't blow up.
All that aside (and I could write a dozen essays on how non-functional the science behind ME is), once Asari were born on other planets or on ships/stations, they shouldn't be biotic anymore because of the lack of Element Zero exposure. Despite that, every single Asari ever was a biotic, even if some didn't choose to develop that talent.
Lol, if quarians were the master race then mass effect wouldn't have had Shepard a human. Not to mention they would've been smart enough to not be exiled by their own creations but that's clearly not the case. Humans ended up deciding the council's fate, creating an army and ultimately stopping the reaper cycle. Humans>all. Crappy lifespan but what they lack in lifespan they make up for being all every other species isn't.
Humans have the grossly unfair advantage of getting to write the story, so they count about as much as Hitler's opinions on the untermensch in Mein Kampf.
So, the obvious Mary Sues and Marty Stus attempting to big themselves up via inexplicable writer fiat out of the way, lets ask an unbiased in setting observer in Harbinger. He's seen these cycles countless times before and knows what's what when picking who is gonna make the best, most flavorful new Reaper slushie.
See, "considered" and the only contrived "problem" he could come up with against us is something that would have never happened were we not too intellectually endowed with superior technical and scientific abilities for our own good, and could be fixed within a couple generations or even a few years (once we reacquire control of our technologies) by getting back our planet anyway (which happens naturally without Reaper interference).
Look at those lesser species. "Useless", "genetically weak", "an annoyance, limited utility" (this is seriously the funniest one because it's sooo true), "wasted potential", "primitive". Damn right. You can't fix genetic weakness, annoyance, or naturally being primitives. All clearly inferior. It's canon. We're best
Human Master Race, tho.
But Quarians can always tag along because they have such sexy voices
You guys look most like us and make suitable bangin' partners, so you can stay around as the most preferred client race.
Meh. Not very convincing.
Hey it doesn't matter if humans write the story, they're still master race.
Yeah whatever Darth Maul, take the side of the species that associated you with the garbage known as The Phantom Menace, then wrote you to have one of the members of their species chop you in half and throw you in a hole while you played with your lightsaber like a child. I know the tricks they use to make themselves look like special snowflakes even if you don't. At least we know that both quarians and humans are better than lame zabraks. You guys couldn't even get your own emote voice in the new Battlefront like all the other aliens, loser.
Yeah whatever Darth Maul, take the side of the species that associated you with the garbage known as The Phantom Menace, then wrote you to have one of the members of their species chop you in half and throw you in a hole while you played with your lightsaber like a child. I know the tricks they use to make themselves look like special snowflakes even if you don't. At least we know that both quarians and humans are better than lame zabraks. You guys couldn't even get your own emote voice in the new Battlefront like all the other aliens, loser.
oh... Okay
Actually, it was said by Javik. Also, from wiki/Codex: "The Protheans also genetically altered the asari to grant them biotic capabilities, and defended Thessia from an asteroid strike and the resource-hungry oravores." Naturally occuring Eezo is found after supernovas. I think we can agree that Thessia didn't blow up.
All that aside (and I could write a dozen essays on how non-functional the science behind ME is), once Asari were born on other planets or on ships/stations, they shouldn't be biotic anymore because of the lack of Element Zero exposure. Despite that, every single Asari ever was a biotic, even if some didn't choose to develop that talent.
That doesn't explain how everything on Thessia is Biotic. Or how the Asari never noticed their Gods looked like Protheans Or why the Protheans didn't interfere with Humanity etc. Basically Javik shits on the lore big style.
Anyway, another big issue with the Asari is just how few of them there are - I think around 6 Billion or so if you add up all the planet descriptions - for the oldest species in the galaxy, who live over a thousand and who can breed with anything for centuries.
6 Billion? Yeah right.
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