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[Vanel]

I am aware that BW "sheded" the protagonist in every game. But I heared that originally they had planned Hawk to be the PC of Inquisition as far as I know. Also the business seemed very unfinnished, between Solas and Inq.

Sure the Inq might have lost an arm, but there might be enchantments or similiar to replace the lost limp. Plus it seemed to me that the arm hasn't "disappeared", but become faded?                                                                 

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So, what are the ods? 

Personally I'd prefer to play as inque, the story felt so incomplete and we barley scratched on Lavellans persona.

Letting someone just continuing a half eaten story would be kind of ... weird.

Also having a protagonist that has fallen from grace would be quite the twist in the usual,

 

Random Dude Hero > Fate Twist > Super famous > Saves the day > Happy ever after

 

I mean the Herostocks must have skyrocked the last >10 years in Thedas ever since the blight, popping up like mushrooms.

Kind of ... unrealistic... also letting someone with so much impact on future events just dissapear or become NPC is kind of lame.

 

Also if the mark was truely only stuck to her hand... urgh.......how did it connect to the magic power source thing like meridians/Soul or what ever...... idk so, the inque would just end up a bum somewhere?

 

Thoughts?

[Abyss108]

Inquisitor needs to be back. She specifically said she was going to kill/save Solas, so that's what she's gonna do.

 

For the people that argue about the "new protagonist each game" thing Bioware has going, I'll point out that the plan for Inquisition was to be twice as long, and they had to cut the plot in half. AKA, the original plan was for the Inquisitor to fight Solas. So no matter what Bioware does they are going against their original plan. They have a good reason to break the "one protagonist" plan for narrative reasons, the only reason to break to break the Inquisitor vs Solas plan is "because that's what we do".

[correctamundo]

Damned if I know the odds, but the way Trespasser ended with kill or redeem him, I don't see a DA4 without the IQ.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Inquistor lost hand and dragon age ain't deus ex and by that it would mean severe class cripple in da 4.

Just because Inquistor said s/he will stop Solas doesn't mean s/he will be one to kill/stop him , i may say that i will kill Obama but doesn't mean i will kill him.

[themikefest]

I would like to have the Inquisitor in the next game. The chances of that happening are extremely low. Of course it depends on what BioWare wants to do for the next game. Time will tell.

[-leadintea-]

I'd rather have a new protagonist - someone who would be a better fit for Tevinter and actually care about the issues more than the Inquisitor, who's basically just passing through to deal with one person. The IQ can deal with Solas, but leave everything else to someone new. I'm also hoping that Solas is the "Act 2" boss (like the Arishok or the Fear Demon where Hawke helped out with it and promptly left), so that someone else (hopefully someone more grounded and more politically based) can be the big bad.

[Goatmanwashere]

I would love to see the INquisitor in a big role in the Next Dragon Age, but I would much prefer to play as a new protagonist.

[BSpud]

Ode to Inquisitor being djinn in DA4.

 

Someone make THAT thread.

[Riot Inducer]

Ode to Inquisitor being djinn in DA4.

 

Someone make THAT thread.

Or a the new "inquisitor" brand gin takes Thedas by storm. 

[lynroy]

Or a the new "inquisitor" brand gin takes Thedas by storm. 

Drinkquisition approved.

 

 

Sorry, OP. Back to your discussion.

[Sah291]

I don't know if Hawke was ever considered for the protagonist of DAI... Hawke's story was supposed to be continued in a DA2 expansion pack that got cancelled, so they folded some of those plot elements into DAI, so that may be why it kind of feels like it was written for Hawke....at least at the beginning....because of parts of it probably were. But they still may have had plans for a new character also at that point.

Anyway, I think DA4 has a higher chance of bringing the protagonist back than either D2 or DAI had, due to circumstances, but it really depends what direction they decide to take the story now.

I thought the whole hand getting cut off would be a huge blow to the IQ at first. Then I saw Charlize Theron's character in Mad Max....so yeah. Not necessarily.

[WobbleLikeAJelly]

I would love it if they have us play Inquisitor (or ex-Inquisitor) next game. I know a lot of people would prefer someone new, but I think the story could be awesome if they put the work in to bring the Inquisitor back and have to make sense for all choices.

In Sera's epilogue slide, if you tell her you'll be a Jenny, the Inquisitor has a little bow and arrow mechanism placed where their anchor hand used to be. They could make some sort of weapon-extension for every class, unique to the Inquisitor. One that has a dagger for DW rogues, a shield for S&S warriors, etc. Or not. I guess they could just give us a claw/hook thing that can act as a normal hand for weapon holding purposes.

In my opinion, it's doable from a story standpoint, at least! That post-credits scene with the Advisors and your LI, where you stab the map made me feel like "Okay, this is what we're doing next!" It would be pretty disappointing if later, we look back and that scene isn't as important as we thought. And then the big choice when disbanding (or not): If you disband your actions against Solas will be weaker but you're less open to corruption. If you remain the Inquisition, you are stronger but more vulnerable to corruption... I know they can show the results of that decision in some other way besides letting you see it first-hand in the Inquisitor's conflict with Solas, but... I think it would be cool to have that last bit of Trespasser be super important later.

... Although that would be less special for those players who skipped the DLC or start their Dragon Age adventure with DA4, but they can be caught up, right? Sure they can. Heh...

[Brigita387]

I feel like the story would lose momentum if they switched protagonists now. Although I think there is some potential draw in getting to create a new character the conflict between Solas and the Inquisitor is so much more personal than the relationships between previous Dragon Age protagonists and antagonists. A solid DAI play-through is about as long as solid play-throughs of all three Mass Effect games combined; the third game theoretically promises pay offs in the form of resolving Shepard's conflicts with the Reapers and the Illusive Man that would not be narratively possible with anyone other than Shepard. Realistic, sure, but it think genre RPG's trade in tropes and fantasy more than cynical realism, for the most part. Plus, I think the Inquisitor is the most interesting PC of the three games. I would prefer to keep the Quiz as the protagonist.

[Vanel]

Hmm, well being realistic now, the ods are pretty low.

Also I do not belive that we will encounter Solas directly in DA4, afterall it was his suggestion to make a move against Tevinter. (Again being set up in his game, most likely to free the slaves there.)

TBH I hope we won't fight Solas. He is everything but evil, even if it looks brutal. Turning him Evil would be just too much of a cliche and a bad story. 

 

Thanks Folks!

[jlb524]

Odds Inquisitor has a cameo or reference: high

Odds Inquisitor is protagonist: low

[Andromelek]

Without a hand? Unless it's a mage that will turn Inky into a pretty easy target, so my guess is that he'll be a cameo but nothing more, there is also the fact that 99% had a romance on DAI and that would just stomp any chance to romance someone of the new cast

[Ash Wind]

0.03% for Izzy being the PC of DA4

 

Its been said and repeated countless times before, DA isn't about 1 character and there will be a new protagonist for each game.

 

Hand or no hand isn't the issue in a fantasy game with magic, its a simple fact that Izzy lost the one thing that made he/she important in DAI.

 

That doesn't mean he/she can't be in DA4 as an adviser, plotting Solas' destruction or (God I hope not) salvation, but it doesn't mean Izzy will be the one actually doing it. 

 

Hawke was never to be the hero of DAI... However, much of what eventually became DAI was actually supposed to be an expansion for DA2, if I recall correctly, titled Exalted March... which was eventually cancelled, but many of the story points where used in DAI. 

[random_michan]

Not the first to voice this, but... Dual protagonists for DA4 ftw! Certain parts of the game would be playable by a new PC, while other parts/quests would be playable by the Inquisitor? Then near the end of the game, maybe the two could team up for one epic mission (or end up fighting each other)? Admittedly, it might be too problematic/expensive to implement, so... :/ ... but I can dream.

[almasy87]

Yep! I'd love double protagonists..

Like idk.. you start like the Inquisitor and travel to Tevinter. Once there you meet someone who will become your ally/disciple/whatever you wanna call it (as per Inq's last words "we find someone he doesn't know".) and then you play with them while in Tevinter doing whatever the Inquisitor needs you to do or working for them..

It would be interesting if the new character was like an ex slave.. or a magister, we don't know.

In response to @-leadintea-, the Inquisitor does have interest in Tevinter, as they have a strong connection with Dorian as well.

But anyway, ideally I'd like the last confrontation with Solas to be with the Inquisitor and not somebody Solas doesn't even know..

Also.. anyone reading Magekiller? I was thinking there might be a chance that Marius and Tessa might be new companions.. or Calpernia..

[duckley]

The odds are that Solas will be back and someone will be dealing with him either  at the Inquisition's request or through some other means - perhaps Dorian?  . I do not think our Inquisitor will be back however, he/she will likely be made reference to and have a cameo via a codex entry, letter  etc.

[-leadintea-]

Yep! I'd love double protagonists..

Like idk.. you start like the Inquisitor and travel to Tevinter. Once there you meet someone who will become your ally/disciple/whatever you wanna call it (as per Inq's last words "we find someone he doesn't know".) and then you play with them while in Tevinter doing whatever the Inquisitor needs you to do or working for them..

It would be interesting if the new character was like an ex slave.. or a magister, we don't know.

In response to @-leadintea-, the Inquisitor does have interest in Tevinter, as they have a strong connection with Dorian as well.

But anyway, ideally I'd like the last confrontation with Solas to be with the Inquisitor and not somebody Solas doesn't even know..

Also.. anyone reading Magekiller? I was thinking there might be a chance that Marius and Tessa might be new companions.. or Calpernia..

 

The Inquisitor's interest in Tevinter is only due to Solas. They don't care about the goings-on in the country nor will they have a particularly strong connection to it. Also, not every Inquisitor ended on good terms with Dorian, which to be honest, doesn't really matter because even if the Inquisitor was friends with Dorian, he doesn't represent Tevinter as a whole and has also pummeled the Inquisitor with his biases on Tevinter. A new protagonist with actual ties to Tevinter (a slave, an Altus, an Ambassadorian dwarf, etc) would be much better than the Inquisitor, who's knowledge about the country comes from someone who hates how the country is run.

[NaclynE]

I am aware that BW "sheded" the protagonist in every game. But I heared that originally they had planned Hawk to be the PC of Inquisition as far as I know. Also the business seemed very unfinnished, between Solas and Inq.

Sure the Inq might have lost an arm, but there might be enchantments or similiar to replace the lost limp. Plus it seemed to me that the arm hasn't "disappeared", but become faded?                                                                 

                                                                           v

 

 

So, what are the ods? 

Personally I'd prefer to play as inque, the story felt so incomplete and we barley scratched on Lavellans persona.

Letting someone just continuing a half eaten story would be kind of ... weird.

Also having a protagonist that has fallen from grace would be quite the twist in the usual,

 

Random Dude Hero > Fate Twist > Super famous > Saves the day > Happy ever after

 

I mean the Herostocks must have skyrocked the last >10 years in Thedas ever since the blight, popping up like mushrooms.

Kind of ... unrealistic... also letting someone with so much impact on future events just dissapear or become NPC is kind of lame.

 

Also if the mark was truely only stuck to her hand... urgh.......how did it connect to the magic power source thing like meridians/Soul or what ever...... idk so, the inque would just end up a bum somewhere?

 

Thoughts?

 

Well all I can say is the DRAGON AGE games were intended to be a trilogy which was stated shortly after DRAGON AGE ORIGINS came out.

 

Now I feel anything can happen since technically four games came out.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well all I can say is the DRAGON AGE games were intended to be a trilogy which was stated shortly after DRAGON AGE ORIGINS came out.

 

Now I feel anything can happen since technically four games came out.

Dragon Age was never intended to be a trilogy. Mass Effect was the franchise originally intended to be a trilogy, thus the vastly different results in choices. Originally it wasn't even known if Dragon Age would be a series, hence the epilogue slides in Origins that go way into the future that had to be retconned. Once it was decided it was to be a series, there are rumors of a five game plan, meaning we have two more games coming if true. 

[Brigita387]

I get that the DA franchise has traditionally changed protagonists between games, but I don't think continuing that trend would be a narratively prudent decision. Sure, you want to introduce new characters and romance options, but I think Mass Effect proved that's not really all that hard. Also the Inquisitor's hand could potentially be fixed; you have an experimental arcanist sitting in Skyholds basement. As someone who originally played a mage and kept the Inquisition, the Inquisitor's line about her adventuring days being over seemed very forced. The Inquisitor, even if the Inquisition has been disbanded, has political cache that could get them into Tevinter, especially if Dorian is willing to help. Dropping the Solas quest-line or resolving it too quickly would also be a huge mistake; you'd lose so much narrative tension. Imagine if DAI had begun "oh and after we resolved that little Mage and Templat tiff something new happened." DA2 had to start up a plot line from scratch but why throw away something that's been set up so carefully?

I think dual protagonists would be difficult to pull off in a BioWare-style game, considering how invested the games ask you to become in relationships and in your choices. I'm not totally against the idea, but I think it would take a lot of work to make it fun.

And I don't think that the Quiz is off the table as a protagonist, regardless of the line about adventuring days. The shot through the grating at the end of Trespasser recalls the shot into the prison at the beginning of the game, implying a new beginning going out from there. Personally, I think it would be interesting to watch the Inquisitor struggling with waning power and collapsing infrastructure and reflecting on who they are without the power of the mark. But we'll see what the devs decide.

[Milan92]

I approve of the Hellsing reference.