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#26
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Now you are speaking my language   .. I consider the Slayer 2be my signature character    

I heartily endorse this product and/or service!  :wub: I really, really do. 

 

Most host dependent kit in the game.

QFT. You can play him off host, but mostly it's just painful. I have already been in some matches where the experience was almost as good as on host, but honestly, those are very rare. Every Vanguard is best played on host, but for the Slayer it's essential. On the other hand, when you host again after some off host matches, you feel like a god.  :D

It's really a shame that you only seldom see a well played Slayer in pugs. Most of them spend their time slashing behind walls or even in the open and dying.  :mellow: And of course, you don't get to see that many Slayers at all, if there is one in the match, it's usually the host. 


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I heartily endorse this product and/or service!  :wub: I really, really do. 

 

QFT. You can play him off host, but mostly it's just painful. I have already been in some matches where the experience was almost as good as on host, but honestly, those are very rare. Every Vanguard is best played on host, but for the Slayer it's essential. On the other hand, when you host again after some off host matches, you feel like a god.  :D

It's really a shame that you only seldom see a well played Slayer in pugs. Most of them spend their time slashing behind walls or even in the open and dying.  :mellow: And of course, you don't get to see that many Slayers at all, if there is one in the match, it's usually the host. 

 

I hosted a match with a 2nd Slayer present. Also a Demolisher. It was almost an N7 team :P



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I always knew that invaderjaun was a cheater :)

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3. Shield Recharge Cells


WAT.

Er coots pls :P


I don't own a Talon yet. Went for Phalanx.
I never take Shield Recharge Cells on Vanguards. Why do you recommend this?


Because he's either trolling you or he's a n00b :lol:

Most host dependent kit in the game.

On host PD build Slayer (with an Acolyte) may be the most powerful single kit in the game .. it's that powerful

Use a light weapon with Incendiary or disruptor ammo


A Talon actually works much better than an acolyte on him :)

So I could vary between Power Eff, Cyclo and Shield Boost...

Tks!


Nah, power amp is where it's at. Although you might want to stick to cyclonics while you're still learning the ropes for him :)

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A Talon actually works much better than an acolyte on him :)
 

 

 

 

Ya I've used that several times also, I personally found the Acolyte more effective as it strips shields / barriers faster and primes a group of together enemies.

 

I admit, the Talon is better if you are too lazy to switch to your anti armor sidearm while using the Acolyte

 

Lol at shield power cells, I assumed that was just a joke



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WAT.

Er coots pls :P



Because he's either trolling you or he's a n00b :lol:


A Talon actually works much better than an acolyte on him :)


Nah, power amp is where it's at. Although you might want to stick to cyclonics while you're still learning the ropes for him :)


Tks on the tips.

I also assumed he was joking but then it seemed serious.

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You probably haven't tried the Slayer with Power Cells and 50% chance on Charge. It's a blast. Much more fun than full barrier and power amp or crutchlonic. 

 

And the survivability is not bad if you know what to do. 



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No disrespect for Nightman and Deerber for liking this kit, but I always feel dirty after each on host Gold match I play with him. Maybe he's much better as a Platinum only kit.

 

I have to agree with Sinful on this, and not just because I want a free like

 

If I'm hosting a lobby with competent players it just feels dirty using this kit. Only when it looks like a huge carry lobby will I sometimes use the Slayer



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slayer is an edgy 12 year old kid who watches too much anime,

The only animuuuu sword fighter you should use is the shadow pearl

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I have to agree with Sinful on this, and not just because I want a free like

 

If I'm hosting a lobby with competent players it just feels dirty using this kit. Only when it looks like a huge carry lobby will I sometimes use the Slayer

 

And there are other games than a huge carry with PUGS?  :blink:  :wacko:



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^ On PSN there are many competent players.

 

Maybe I'm just lucky that way; I find it rare to actually be in a lobby with 3 players whom are overmatched for Gold.

 

Quite frankly my ideal lobby composition has 1 other good to competent player and 2 newer players. All good players can be fun, but even then, that's a clear 'bump it up to Platinum" scenario


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^ On PSN there are many competent players.

 

Maybe I'm just lucky that way; I find it rare to actually be in a lobby with 3 players whom are overmatched for Gold.

 

Quite frankly my ideal lobby composition has 1 other good to competent player and 2 newer players. All good players can be fun, but even then, that's a clear 'bump it up to Platinum" scenario

 

I dunno. On PC you pretty much have to drop 200k+ on Gold and 250k+ on Plat for the team to extract in a reasonable time. 

 

And that Slayer build I posted about will easily go for 200k+ every time. 



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^ On PSN there are many competent players.

 

Maybe I'm just lucky that way; I find it rare to actually be in a lobby with 3 players whom are overmatched for Gold.

 

Quite frankly my ideal lobby composition has 1 other good to competent player and 2 newer players. All good players can be fun, but even then, that's a clear 'bump it up to Platinum" scenario

I met a fury with an adas couple days back and a level one red adept who was just a straight up leech, LOLOLOLOL


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I dunno. On PC you pretty much have to drop 200k+ on Gold and 250k+ on Plat for the team to extract in a reasonable time. 

 

And that Slayer build I posted about will easily go for 200k+ every time. 

 

Holy crap those are bad lobbies, I don't need to average that many points on PSN Gold matches to extract.

 

And, even in a lobby with good players, if UUG become Glacier / any enemy not Collectors, then this build should net a 200K score with ease:

 

http://kalence.drupa...34N52364!GF3BGG



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Holy crap those are bad lobbies, I don't need to average that many points on PSN Gold matches to extract.

 

And, even in a lobby with good players, if UUG become Glacier / any enemy not Collectors, then this build should net a 200K score with ease:

 

http://kalence.drupa...34N52364!GF3BGG

 

Hurricane + Acolyte = SNOOOOORE!


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^ I agree in principal, although this kit is the best with that combo

 

Edit: lol,. the Piranha isn't exactly nerfing yourself either, considering how close range you are going to be in typical Slayer gameplay



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^ I agree in principal, although this kit is the best with that combo

 

Edit: lol,. the Piranha isn't exactly nerfing yourself either, considering how close range you are going to be in typical Slayer gameplay

 

Yeah, but try it on Condor or Rio vs Collectors and tell me how easy it is, when you can't pop shots from cover like you can with HurrDurricane. And it doesn't do nearly as much damage as the Hurricane. 



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^ The only time the Hurricane comes out is at the end of a wave when all that's left are the bosses. Everything else has succumbed to BC, PD and combo detonations. The map makes no difference.

 

The only reason I mentioned Glacier in the above post was because that is optimal for the Slayer when all the mooks remain clustered together, but hardly necessary.

 

And at each of their effective ranges, assuming appropriate set ups, you think the Hurricane outputs more damage than a Piranha? I don't bother looking at the damage value spreadsheets, but if there is a difference, it is small in actual gameplay



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^ On PSN there are many competent players.

Maybe I'm just lucky that way; I find it rare to actually be in a lobby with 3 players whom are overmatched for Gold.

Quite frankly my ideal lobby composition has 1 other good to competent player and 2 newer players. All good players can be fun, but even then, that's a clear 'bump it up to Platinum" scenario


I also find good lobbies on PS3. Not always though. I played a gold match w a very good fury that did 250k and myself 80k and the other 2 guys were dying a lot. There was 1 time where it seemed that the fury let us all die so he she could solo the wave. But anyway after match they had around 50 N7 points and like 40 CPs. I don't think they were suited for gold -_-
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^ The only time the Hurricane comes out is at the end of a wave when all that's left are the bosses. Everything else has succumbed to BC, PD and combo detonations. The map makes no difference.

 

The only reason I mentioned Glacier in the above post was because that is optimal for the Slayer when all the mooks remain clustered together, but hardly necessary.

 

And at each of their effective ranges, assuming appropriate set ups, you think the Hurricane outputs more damage than a Piranha? I don't bother looking at the damage value spreadsheets, but if there is a difference, it is small in actual gameplay

 

Range, ROF and spread. Hurricane beats the **** out the Piranha, plus you can pop headshots from really decent distances and getting into hard cover helps a lot. Piranha doesn't benefit from hard cover as much and you will not be getting headshots from medium range. 

 

Hurricane just shreds Atlases and Praetorians. 



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Ya I've used that several times also, I personally found the Acolyte more effective as it strips shields / barriers faster and primes a group of together enemies.

 

There's no way the acolyte can be better at stripping shields than a Talon used right, on the Slayer. Put disruptors on it, and fire a PD every shot. There won't be a bar of shields left in a 5? m radius...


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^You underestimate the Piranha, it is one of the ultimate boss killing weapons in this game, full stop.

 

Depending on your kits accuracy & stability boosts (or lack thereof) will determine the Piranha's effective range. Assuming all pellets are landing maybe only the PC Reegar is capable of more vs bosses.

 

Depending on your kits accuracy & stability boosts (or lack thereof) will determine the Hurricane's effective range. If you are landing all shots in the bosses weakpoints, then it is one of the rare weapons which competes for the ultimate crown, but IMO falls behind the other two weapons mentioned in this post.

 

All of which should be irrelevant because you should be playing the Slayer so aggressively that it makes the Drell look conservative in comparison :P



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There's no way the acolyte can be better at stripping shields than a Talon used right, on the Slayer. Put disruptors on it, and fire a PD every shot. There won't be a bar of shields left in a 5? m radius...

 

Ya, again, personal preference. I mean we are talking about two of the best overall weapons in the game, especially for stripping shields and priming targets



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^You underestimate the Piranha, it is one of the ultimate boss killing weapons in this game, full stop.

 

Depending on your kits accuracy & stability boosts (or lack thereof) will determine the Piranha's effective range. Assuming all pellets are landing maybe only the PC Reegar is capable of more vs bosses.

 

Depending on your kits accuracy & stability boosts (or lack thereof) will determine the Hurricane's effective range. If you are landing all shots in the bosses weakpoints, then it is one of the rare weapons which competes for the ultimate crown, but IMO falls behind the other two weapons mentioned in this post.

 

All of which should be irrelevant because you should be playing the Slayer so aggressively that it makes the Drell look conservative in comparison :P

 

We're talking about the Slayer here don't we? And on the Slayer Hurricane is much more accurate than the Piranha. 

 

And it makes HUGE difference when you can go into hard cover and spam from the Dagger control tower instead of Charging into 2 Scions to shoot them with Piranha. Also you need to masted reload canceling with it and RC almost after every kill, while with the Hurricane you don't even have to think about it since it's reload is so fast. 



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