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I consider it very much a case of your  mileage may vary since I see it as understandable why some might think it not odd while others would consider it to be quite a bit and more odd.  
 
Personally to me, I feel there is a difference in what and how you keep what you remember someone by. Keeping objects like clothing, photographs, recordings of their voice and such is one thing but I feel it is another to keep the broken torso of the armor in which said someone quite painfully died in and put it in a glass case on display in a living room.  
 
This made worse to me since Liara was a stranger to a Shepard of mine and that Shepard would not have liked to have found that a stranger made a display like this in their living room. I've played Shepards who have been friends with Liara but who were still uncomfortable with this. One was outright angry at her for it because of what it looked like to her with it being in a display case in the living room. She'd have considered it one thing for Liara to keep the armor somewhere private but something else for Liara to keep it on display the way she did.
   
Basically, It may be that Liara genuinely means it as a way of honoring Shepard and conveying her respects but that does not mean that some player nor their Shepard would be silly to be uncomfortable with her way of doing so. You may consider an option to talk about it with her as stupid but I see dialogue discussing it as being way to deal with some of the unfortunate implications and uncomfortabilities some players and some Shepards may see and feel about it.


Fair enough. But calling that an unwanted romance is still absurd. Because this

That's kinda how Liara comes across if you're not romancing her, though.

is sheer nonsense. Liara never tries to persuade Shepard into loving her. In Mass Effect 1 she asks exactly once if Shepard is interested and then never touches the subject again. Anyway, let's just agree to disagree about the armor.
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is sheer nonsense. Liara never tries to persuade Shepard into loving her. In Mass Effect 1 she asks exactly once if Shepard is interested and then never touches the subject again.

 

In the first game. Some of the conversations in ME3 are very, very sketchy. And this isn't even going into the "I want to give you the gift of romantically leaning in on you and seeing space" deal at the end of the game, or the "Liara is the last person you see" thing from when the game first shipped. Terribly overbearing.

 

Liara was fine in the first game, and in the second one, but her writing in the third one was really bad. It's a shame too because I don't want to dislike or be forced to tell off any of the characters in-game, and there was nothing I fundamentally disliked about her as a character. Just...too pushy.



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I had to read that twice. The first time I was like "Ehem...what?" 

Whatever if I had to choose I'd choose the former (because it's not just sticking your dick in some interstellar meat, must be like a sick acid trip) but I highly doubt that even the sickos would be that into it when such a live form actually would touch down in your back yard. Fantasy and something happening in reality are vastly different. 

K this is going dark places typical of BSN "romance" topics,  so I'll just leave you with the challenge to look up some Garrus fangirl "art".That combined with the fact that nonconsenting horses and goats have proven reasonably popular......"romance" options among some humans in certain parts of the world, and I dont think even sapient bug monster/ birdman with toxic spunk would be out of the question, nevermind off coloured spacebabe.


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In the first game. Some of the conversations in ME3 are very, very sketchy. And this isn't even going into the "I want to give you the gift of romantically leaning in on you and seeing space" deal at the end of the game, or the "Liara is the last person you see" thing from when the game first shipped. Terribly overbearing.

 

You could always say No to Liara's offer at the end of ME3. Or you could spend a few moment with a close friend.

 

She's in love with you, but so what? She never acts on it after you told her you have no interest in her. I recently finished a playthrough where I didn't romance her and yeah, she's a bit of a writer's pet... but she's not a creepy stalker. She's always there for you, like good friends are.


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K this is going dark places typical of BSN "romance" topics,  so I'll just leave you with the challenge to look up some Garrus fangirl "art".That combined with the fact that nonconsenting horses and goats have proven reasonably popular......"romance" options among some humans in certain parts of the world, and I dont think even sapient bug monster/ birdman with toxic spunk would be out of the question, nevermind off coloured spacebabe.

 

I thought it was kind of hot....until you misspelled "colored" silly brits....errrr Quarians.



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You could always say No to Liara's offer at the end of ME3. Or you could spend a few moment with a close friend.

 

She's in love with you, but so what? She never acts on it after you told her you have no interest in her. I recently finished a playthrough where I didn't romance her and yeah, she's a bit of a writer's pet... but she's not a creepy stalker. She's always there for you, like good friends are.

 

It means snapping at her and more or less telling her to **** off. Playing as a paragon and being 100% fine with Liara as a friend, I didn't like that option. But I didn't have any other way of saying no. It was most vexing.



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In the first game. Some of the conversations in ME3 are very, very sketchy. And this isn't even going into the "I want to give you the gift of romantically leaning in on you and seeing space" deal at the end of the game, or the "Liara is the last person you see" thing from when the game first shipped. Terribly overbearing.
 
Liara was fine in the first game, and in the second one, but her writing in the third one was really bad. It's a shame too because I don't want to dislike or be forced to tell off any of the characters in-game, and there was nothing I fundamentally disliked about her as a character. Just...too pushy.


The gift is a gesture of friendship for an asari, that's explained in the game. That's why she doesn't offer it if you were rude to her in the past or ignored her. And I seriously doubt she tries to start a romance in London. That "Liara is the last person you see" thing was stupid, I won't argue that. But this isn't exactly part of her characterization :)

Liara is open to a romance in ME3 (just like Ashley and Kaidan), but it's Shepard who has to initiate the romance. Liara doesn't take the initiative in ME3, that was my point.

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You're asking for it so it's not unwanted.


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She's always there for you, like good friends are.

Can you give a couple examples of her always there for you.
 

That's why she doesn't offer it if you were rude to her in the past or ignored her.

Only ignoring the asari in ME3 will cause her not to offer the gift. Being rude, mean or whatever to her won't stop her from offering the gift.

 

The only time the player can be mean to her, if you want to call it that, is when wanting to throw her in the volcano in ME1


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You're asking for it so it's not unwanted.

Touché.  It would be more correct to say, under appreciated then.



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wait, did I get this right? You want harassment added to the game? 



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wait, did I get this right? You want harassment added to the game? 

It's just a troll thread, don't take it seriously. :P



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I'd like a romance in MEA where a really hot guy pushes you into a wall while on the ship and hits on you whilst possibly demanding sex, and hits on you a few more times even if you turn him down. The type of creeper who you think you should probably report to the police, but can't help but find that type of audacity sexy, plus he's gorgeous, so you end up sleeping together instead.

 

Does that qualify as an unwanted romance?



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You people don't understand at all. It's a business move for Liara to keep Shepy's armor. Imagine how much credits it will rate in a few centuries! enough cash to send all her future daughters to university! 


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Sounds good, count me in.

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No not like that. We need some dweeb to be constantly trying to get our affection that is uncomfortable to the player.

Like the biotic god from ME2, I want a volus or similar alternative shooting me selfies and love messages to my private terminal, show up in missions randomly for aid, stuff like this.

 

O_o what a weird idea... you know, in real life many guys do that to girls and it's just scary.

I don't want psycho-stalker that makes me uncomfortable on a video game I love and play for fun !

 

Now, a character in love with you that make the first move, yes, why not, it could change if it's well done, but something with taste.



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I'd actually kind of like the option to be pursued by someone else as opposed to always having to make the first move with my romantic options in a game. I'd love to see one of the companions or a random NPC flirt with me for a change. Of either gender, regardless of my characters sexual preferences.


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Just please, please no whiny terrorist who just tossed his previous lover out of an airlock because the poor guy got lobotomized by Cerberus or some such.
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What would you know about that? :P


I get hit on by 12 y/o boys all the time. The older boys just make awkward convo because they are trying so hard.

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K this is going dark places typical of BSN "romance" topics,  so I'll just leave you with the challenge to look up some Garrus fangirl "art".That combined with the fact that nonconsenting horses and goats have proven reasonably popular......"romance" options among some humans in certain parts of the world, and I dont think even sapient bug monster/ birdman with toxic spunk would be out of the question, nevermind off coloured spacebabe.

 

I really don't want to look that **** up. 


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I get hit on by 12 y/o boys all the time. The older boys just make awkward convo because they are trying so hard.

 

Just tell them you're not gay and they'll move on? I don't see your problem here.


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Liara was fine in the first game, and in the second one, but her writing in the third one was really bad. It's a shame too because I don't want to dislike or be forced to tell off any of the characters in-game, and there was nothing I fundamentally disliked about her as a character. Just...too pushy.

 

An unreasonable amount of her conversations in ME1 were dedicated to how asari have sex. It was weird. 


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Didn't Shepard end up with some crazy fangirl message by the time you were finished with the arena in the Citadel DLC? Would've been funny to see how that ended.



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You people don't understand at all. It's a business move for Liara to keep Shepy's armor. Imagine how much credits it will rate in a few centuries! enough cash to send all her future daughters to university! 

 

To give my own thoughts on this topic, I'm pretty sure everything on display in Liara's home is entirely for her own benefit. There's no point in the trilogy where she isn't completely consumed by her work so I doubt she expects to get visitors to her apartment, she's a consummate archaeologist so remembering history through carefully preserved artifacts is right up her alley, and we already know her social skills aren't the best. The thought of showing any of it off, or that there could be something "creepy" about having an old friend's armor to remember him/her by probably never entered her head.

 

I also wouldn't blame Shepard for being a little weirded out, but as s/he is looking through Liara's apartment after an attack on the latter I doubt that's foremost on his/her mind.

 

 

An unreasonable amount of her conversations in ME1 were dedicated to how asari have sex. It was weird. 

 

Yeah, especially when it's something that should already be common knowledge about them, Asari mating almost exclusively with other species at this point in time.

 

As for the OP, I don't see much point in the protagonist having a stalker, specifically, but a character falling for him/her and persisting about it until s/he makes it clear s/he doesn't reciprocate wouldn't be unreasonable. I doubt that character would turn out to be popular, though.



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If the story line works with the mythology of Andromeda unwanted romances are part of the theme of creation for Athena's Aegis.