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Amne YA

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i was looking on the default word state 
in da2  . warden from dao did the sacrifice 
in da inq . hawk is the one that stay in the fade .
da4  inquisitor will die 



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... *Choices* is the operative word here.

Also, nobody knows what will happen to the Inquisitor as of yet so I dunno what you're on about there.
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It's a conspiracy!

 

"We need you to be the hero that saves Ferelde-...*"

 

"Nope, I know how this ends. I'm out. You can just die from the giant-green-glowing suicide-bomber-mage-blight. I'm going to hang in the Anderfels. Nothing ever happens over there."

 

Introducing Dragon Age 4: Rise of the Tide of Evil in The Anderfels

 

"Oh, goddammit...!"


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The default world state gets rid of everyone it can, not just protagonists. It's meant for new players who don't have any background with these people to limit the number of references they get.


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I agree with Donk, it's all about choice.  Hawke does not have to be left in the fade.  I think the default world state was created as it was, to encourage people to visit the keep and populate Thedas history with their own choices from previous games or as above, to give new players the most pared down history possible.  I don't think the Inquisitor will necessary die, but I don't think they will be a main protagonist in any future DA games.  Personally, I think this would be a mistake, despite your INQ (as I've read in other forums) having more motivation to fix the mess they've created.  A new protagonist allows for new players to the franchise to find their place within it, but I don't think killing off the previous characters is intended or canon.



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It's more like to make it more lore friendly to previous games by having less connections. In ME3, almost all the companions die in the default state, it doesn't mean Shepard is a dick, it just means that the game wants to make it accessible for people who don't know who those people Shepard speak so familiar with are.



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The default world state gets rid of everyone it can, not just protagonists. It's meant for new players who don't have any background with these people to limit the number of references they get.

I once thought that it was true,however if that was the true intention of the standard worldstate they should have picked all the decisions with the murder button



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Battlebloodmage

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I once thought that it was true,however if that was the true intention of the standard worldstate they should have picked all the decisions with the murder button

They pick all the options that require direct knowledge from the previous games. 



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I think the bigger concern is that they are getting rid of the primary protagonists in all worldstates by writing them out of the story. The Hero is scheduled to return by the end of Trespasser. They can't just keep writing excuses for the Hero forever. If DA4 snubs the Hero, I won't buy the game. Hawke's status is virtually the same. Could be dead, but if not then back in the Free Marches. No reason the Hero and Champion can't be featured, especially with all that is currently at stake. Especially with Leliana having possible connection to the Hero, and Varric having connection with the Champion.



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Battlebloodmage

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I think the bigger concern is that they are getting rid of the primary protagonists in all worldstates by writing them out of the story. The Hero is scheduled to return by the end of Trespasser. They can't just keep writing excuses for the Hero forever. If DA4 snubs the Hero, I won't buy the game. Hawke's status is virtually the same. Could be dead, but if not then back in the Free Marches. No reason the Hero and Champion can't be featured, especially with all that is currently at stake. Especially with Leliana having possible connection to the Hero, and Varric having connection with the Champion.

Dragon Age Avengers assembled. 


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The reason they have that for the default world state is so that it is the easiest to account for. If you look you will also see that every single side quest, romance, follower quest and so on is also uncompleted in the default world states. They are as bare bones as you can possibly get.
 
Besides, the Keep's function is to allow the player to import their own world state, including the option for both the Warden and Hawke to be alive. I really don't see them doing away with choice importation any time soon.
 
Don't read so much into it.

 

I once thought that it was true,however if that was the true intention of the standard worldstate they should have picked all the decisions with the murder button


If you're including companions in this, all of those are just not recruited. You can't kill Leliana if you don't recruit her. As for everything else, the quest is just not done at all. That is why it is bare bones.

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Right. The default state is only important for people who don't know what went on in the earlier games anyway. Who cares what's in it?
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With the inquisitor likely being a non-combatant in the next game due to the obvious amputee thing, we already have a good excuse for this character not to be part of missions directly.

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I think the bigger concern is that they are getting rid of the primary protagonists in all worldstates by writing them out of the story. The Hero is scheduled to return by the end of Trespasser. They can't just keep writing excuses for the Hero forever. If DA4 snubs the Hero, I won't buy the game. Hawke's status is virtually the same. Could be dead, but if not then back in the Free Marches. No reason the Hero and Champion can't be featured, especially with all that is currently at stake. Especially with Leliana having possible connection to the Hero, and Varric having connection with the Champion.

 

You'll probably be saving your money then.


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Dai Grepher

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Dragon Age Avengers assembled. 

 

Why not? Inquisition and Trespasser were basically the plots of Avengers and Winter Soldier.



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Why not? Inquisition and Trespasser were basically the plots of Avengers and Winter Soldier.

Thanks for spoiling the next game for me...all I can see in my head now is a Divine Leliana telling the next game's protagonist "I need you to be...the Nug-man."



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Thanks for spoiling the next game for me...all I can see in my head now is a Divine Leliana telling the next game's protagonist "I need you to be...the Nug-man."

I'm more thinking along the line of Power Rangers. 



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I told already that in the future game to fight a Solas as described at the end of Trepasser, you need an assemblage of  best heroes. Maybe not in the forth DA but in the fifth. 

 

Solas is like a Highfather god with an army of elfes. An assemblage of old protagonist ( Hero of Ferelden and his/her group, The champion , the Inquisitor, the Architect, etc.... vs a real old Gold ( Solas)


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I'm more thinking along the line of Power Rangers. 

Oh I see...and now I've got that song in my head!  Come to think of it, the world of Dragon Age could use a battle theme with lyrics...



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Dai Grepher

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I'm more thinking along the line of Power Rangers. 

 

Mythal is Rita Repulsa. Solas is her Green Ranger.



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I think the bigger concern is that they are getting rid of the primary protagonists in all worldstates by writing them out of the story. The Hero is scheduled to return by the end of Trespasser. They can't just keep writing.

That is true only for those who romanced Leliana because there is no mention of any other HoF

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Dai Grepher

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The Hero would only return to Leliana after completing the cure quest. So the return indicates that the quest was completed. Since all cure quests are the same, the duration of the quest should also be the same for all Heroes.



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That would be nice if they stop with the lesser Revan thing (it's how I refer to Hawke, is the lesser Revan), and leaving the HOF hanging like a sour thumb. They should stop with all references towards the HOF really.
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If my Inquisitor ends up dead off screen via stupid writing because *reasons*, I'm going to be p*ssed!
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Default states are usually pretty bad. I recently learned that with Mass Effect too. I'm guessing they want you to play the game and make the choices that avoid that. For me, my Warden is happily with Zevran and seeking a cure for the Calling and my Hawke is rebuilding Kirkwall with Varric, and Fenris is most likely by her side.