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[JiaJM98]

So I just want some clarifications: which abilities cannot crit?

 

I know for chain lightning, only the first hit can crit, but the consecutive hits cannot. It looks like this is the only multi hit abilities that cannot crit on the consecutive hits. Spinning blades, throwing blades and whirlwind will crit, for example.

 

I remember the devs changed some necro abilities so that some of her dot abilities can crit. But which ones? 

 

Can you crit when casting barrier? Does other dot abilities / statue effects crit? E.g. Cool beats (I think it can't but not certain) and burning effect. I know avvar's lady's wrath will crit but I'm not sure if that would count as a dot ability or multi hit ability.

 

Generally, most 1-hit abilities can crit, but is there any exceptions to this? How about passives? Like storm bringer? 

 

Thx for any constructive responses

[Proto]

Stone Fist works like chain lightning.

Walking bomb can now crit. Both the dot and explosion. But, all other dots do not crit. Cool beats falls into that category. So does Saarebas curse.

Barrier can't crit.

[JiaJM98]

Stone Fist works like chain lightning.

Walking bomb can now crit. Both the dot and explosion. But, all other dots do not crit. Cool beats falls into that category. So does Saarebas curse.

Barrier can't crit.

So blizzard still can't crit? That's a shame.

 

How about detonators? E.g. wombo combo. And item passive effects? E.g. Explode on kill.

 

Also if Lady's Wrath will crit, then can Ring of Pain crit also? What about static cage? Aoe spells like fire storm? Broadsides?

[Proto]

So blizzard still can't crit? That's a shame.

How about detonators? E.g. wombo combo. And item passive effects? E.g. Explode on kill.

Also if Lady's Wrath will crit, then can Ring of Pain crit also? What about static cage? Aoe spells like fire storm? Broadsides?

Blizzard: No

Detonators: Yes, I think? Meaning higher the damage done to create the detonator = higher detonation damage

Items: Ability procs operate just like the ability. Chain lightning first hit crits, hidden blades crits. I'm almost certain explode damage doesn't crit. Based on how much damage is done, so if you crit and that creates explosion you get higher explosion damage.

Ring of Pain: Pretty sure this can't crit. Can't confirm. Not an ability I ever use.

Static Cage: Yes

Firestorm: Yes

Broadsides: Yes

[Jugger nuggss]

Thx for any constructive responses

What about the other responses?

[JiaJM98]

What about the other responses?

Still welcome 

[Gya]

I have extensively tested the following. You're welcome.

Bodyguard: no

Shield wall: no

Knockout bomb: no

Stealth: no

Fallback plan: no

Walking fortress: maybe, I don't know what this is or which character uses it, probably some scrub mode ability

Seabass glyph: no

Healing font: no

Axii: no

[Campout King]

I doubt counter strike crits. I use it all the time

[Proto]

I doubt counter strike crits. I use it all the time

...Counterstrike does Crit.

[Snakebite]

So I just want some clarifications: which abilities cannot crit?

 

The bad ones.

 

Pronto, and I guess technically Gya, are on point.

 

As a rule of thumb, if it does DoT, it can't crit.  There are exceptions to that rule due to the balancing done to the Necromancer.  I know that Walking Bomb can crit, but I am not sure if Horror and Spirit Mark were also made to crit or it they were left alone.

 

Here are all the ones I can think of that do not crit:

• Toxic Cloud
• Chain Lightning (on secondary hits)
• Wall of Fire
• Blizzard
• Ring of Pain
• Curse of Shokasit
• Cool Beats
• Horror (probably)
• Spirit Mark (probably)

Now, if we do as Gya did, and include active abilities that do not do damage, then the list gets bigger. 

• Frost Flask
• Fire Flask
• Horn of Valor
• Knockout Bomb
• Barrier
• Mindblast
• Veilstrike
• Pull of the Abyss
• Knockout Powder
• Fallback Plan
• Stealth
• Rage of the Avvar
• Shield Wall
• Livid
• Ice Mine
• Combat Roll
• Challenge
• To The Death
• Disruption Field
• Dispel
• War Cry
• Walking Fortress
• Rampage
• Saar-Taar Shield
• Ring of Asaaranda
• Glyphs of Aqun
• A Little Knight Music
• Battle of the Bands
• Bolstering Ballad
• Sing Along
• Mark of the Riff (although I guess when the people that are buffed with it crit on something the extra elemental damage probably does crit as well, so maybe...)

 

Detonators: Yes, I think? Meaning higher the damage done to create the detonator = higher detonation damage

 

Detonators certainly crit.  No way to get 30K wombo combo or 10K shatters without all that crit damage from the hakkon weapons.  I guess an ungodly amount of willpower will do it too, but by that point you would certainly also have guaranteed crit chance and hakkon weapons.

 

I am fairly certain that even though some detonators can't crit, the combo detonated by them can (e.g. Mindblast on a sleeping enemy causes Nightmare, Dispel on stunned enemy causes Wombo).  Also of note is that one passive (Stormbringer) can also crit.

[JiaJM98]

Thx for all the replies I appreciate it.

[Campout King]

...Counterstrike does Crit.

Never noticed. I just love the fact that it knocks almost everything down. Lol

[Caldyrvan]

Horror (with upgrade ofc) can crit. I take it all the time. Even targets that can´t be feared/paniked will take the DoT damage.

[JiaJM98]

Horror (with upgrade ofc) can crit. I take it all the time. Even targets that can´t be feared/paniked will take the DoT damage.

Oh how nice! Never knew there is anything besides walking bomb in necro tree is worth usinh

[Silversmurf]

Jump cannot crit

[Mark (Gekrakel)]

Invisible sudden death can crit players pretty quick.