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Genuinely not trying to be a dick, but could someone tell me what this thread is asking? I can't tell if there's a language barrier or if I'm just not comprehending the question.

I think it's the same person from the genocide thread. In any case, probably bait about the lack of manly men.



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Just realized I have been on my a** all day and have gotten nothing done and I even got up pretty early too. I get more done on the days I sleep in but the day I'm up at 6:30? Not a single thing gets done.



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Genuinely not trying to be a dick, but could someone tell me what this thread is asking? I can't tell if there's a language barrier or if I'm just not comprehending the question.

 
Actually, I thought that a previous response to you summed it up pretty well:

Dear @vetrigomez
Being a strong independent character isn't something that pertains subjectivity,most male companions and many Npcs are not strong and independent because they need to be babysitting by the PC in order to find confidence within themselves.
Most females characters with or without the PC continue to be independent in their pursuing(even if the PC act against them) and destiny while males remain losers.


I think that that applies to many of the followers and/or LI, but I certainly do NOT think that that then makes such characters "losers." Also, there are some contradictory arguments. Cullen certainly needs support when it comes to lyrium, but they don't seem to feel that he is a "loser."

 

I'm rather torn on whether I like this as a character device, or not. On the one hand, it is nice when characters have independence and autonomy, especially in a romance, and I think that DAI did pretty well for some of these. On the other hand, helping a character work through some of their issues in a caring, supportive way, whether friend or romance, can help to make the relationship feel more real and stronger.

 

This is why I like the Dorian friend and romance so much. He has autonomy and independence, but the PC also helps him grow and heal. And because of this I am not bothered by the Trespasser events, as some were.



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I think it's the same person from the genocide thread. In any case, probably bait about the lack of manly men.


Yeah, her name is Zoidberg. We thought that was fitting for a basset hound. "Yea, I'm useful!"

<arches an eyebrow, since most smilies don't work on the Kindle>

A genocide thread? Dare I even ask? I've been avoiding the DA forums until I have a chance to play the DLCs. Who's getting wiped out this time?

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Yeah, her name is Zoidberg. We thought that was fitting for a basset hound. "Yea, I'm useful!"

<arches an eyebrow, since most smilies don't work on the Kindle>

A genocide thread? Dare I even ask? I've been avoiding the DA forums until I have a chance to play the DLCs. Who's getting wiped out this time?

 

If it's the thread I'm thinking of everyone. Dwarves, Elves, Humans, Qunari.

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A genocide thread? Dare I even ask? I've been avoiding the DA forums until I have a chance to play the DLCs. Who's getting wiped out this time?


If Biotic is referring to the thread I think he is, then... everyone in Thedas. Really, the only one you need to play (to avoid spoilers) is Trespasser, as no one hardly discusses JoH or Descent.

I still have yet to play Descent, even though I like dwarf stuff, mainly because there is so little follower content and I've heard it's rather boring. I will eventually...



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Yeah, her name is Zoidberg. We thought that was fitting for a basset hound. "Yea, I'm useful!"

<arches an eyebrow, since most smilies don't work on the Kindle>

A genocide thread? Dare I even ask? I've been avoiding the DA forums until I have a chance to play the DLCs. Who's getting wiped out this time?

Zoidberg is a bit like a big dog "Hooray, people are paying attention to me!"

 

I won't get into details (you need to finish the DLCs, I do too...), but probably everyone.

 

Edit:

:ph34r:  and by two people



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Awesome. It sounded like I missed a helluva train wreck.

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From a brief skim of the op I think they are asking 'why do all the male characters suck?'? I think I might be an attempt at a troll thread only because I've seen them do that 'HOF needs to come back' thing before, even saying the dead wardens can be possessed by envy demons and then come back that way so everyone get the most important character to the franchise back.


I think it's the same person from the genocide thread. In any case, probably bait about the lack of manly men.


Thanks. :lol: I suspected as much, but the cozying up to Solas was throwing me off.

Actually, I thought that a previous response to you summed it up pretty well:

I think that that applies to many of the followers and/or LI, but I certainly do NOT think that that then makes such characters "losers." Also, there are some contradictory arguments. Cullen certainly needs support when it comes to lyrium, but they don't seem to feel that he is a "loser."
 
I'm rather torn on whether I like this as a character device, or not. On the one hand, it is nice when characters have independence and autonomy, especially in a romance, and I think that DAI did pretty well for some of these. On the other hand, helping a character work through some of their issues in a caring, supportive way, whether friend or romance, can help to make the relationship feel more real and stronger.
 
This is why I like the Dorian friend and romance so much. He has autonomy and independence, but the PC also helps him grow and heal. And because of this I am not bothered by the Trespasser events, as some were.


See, that was my first thought. But it didn't make any sense to me because the PC can also (un)harden Leliana twice and can rival Merrill and Isabela to change their minds... the PC having magical powers of influence and changing the course of a character's life is not exactly a dude-exclusive phenomenon.

At the end of the day, though, it's one of those things you can't win... because if the player gets put in charge of a character's Big Decision (Leliana, Bull...) people complain that the character in question is weak or indecisive. But if a character sticks to their guns, people complain that they're obstinate and why can't I change their minds, dadgummit! (As with Sera and magic, Alistair and Loghain, etc.)

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As this thread repeatedly names and shames other users it has been closed.