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[HuldraDancer]

Should of put this up a while ago. 

 

We have a huge sink hole in our backyard. Huge. It's a bout a story deep and has been getting wider and wider, pretty sure it isn't covered under our insurance either. So far what it looks like is that one of the caves that we live over has caved in and that's where the hole in our backyard is coming from, luckily it doesn't seem to be getting any deeper and as far as I've been told the house itself is build on solid ground not over a cave. I feel terrible moving out soon while my grandmother has this problem even though I know there is nothing I can do to help and that she'd have more money to put to filling it without me there cause of all the dang doctors visits. Still I feel guilty not being able to help and really think I'm just adding more trouble for her even though I know full well the hole is out of my hands and I had to get surgery and couldn't really put it off and still currently shouldn't be driving myself to the doctors visits. Still doesn't stop me from feeling guilty.

 

Rant/pity party over. Feels nice to ***** that out and get it off my chest.

[lynroy]

*snip*

I'd've hanged up on them as fast as Shepard hanging up on the council.

[nightscrawl]

Here is a bit of a rant... And an appropriate one considering the name of this group.

 

First and foremost, these are games, and players can play them however they want. I understand that completely and do not begrudge other players this, and I know it has nothing to do with my own game.

 

That said, I'm always bothered by the posts of players who want to try to sex up everyone. With a few exceptions, the game does treat these as "romances," that is, the beginnings of a relationship, and not a one-night stand. I don't understand how these players can do all of the romantic things -- and some of them are very romantic, depending on the LI -- and then just drop them after sex without feeling like a total a-hole. I mean, if they want to RP that their character is a total user a-hole, then I suppose that's appropriate, but I don't get the feeling that is the case with most of these; they simply want to do it because they can.

[nightscrawl]

Time share telemarketers.

...

You were way too nice. You can just say, "I'm not interested, good-bye," and hang up. Really, I'm sure they get a ton of hang-ups a day, from people much more vitriolic and hateful, and might even appreciate that they didn't have to go through the whole spiel if someone really wasn't going accept the offer after 10-15 minutes of cajoling.

[Biotic Apostate]

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The standard practice is either to not pick up (setting up call centers which automatically pester their entire database is common, when you pick up they mark the number for future use), if you have the luxury of not picking up strange numbers, or to say no thank you and hang up (the "no" part is important since in some countries the laws are lax and saying only "thank you" could be treated as an oral agreement).

 

There's a quite famous story about a guy who was so pissed an ISP was calling every single day that he finally picked up and said he doesn't need an internet connection, because he has psychic powers and connects through his brain waves. And that he gets better speeds at night, because less people are thinking. Didn't call him again.

[Biotic Apostate]

Here is a bit of a rant... And an appropriate one considering the name of this group.

 

First and foremost, these are games, and players can play them however they want. I understand that completely and do not begrudge other players this, and I know it has nothing to do with my own game.

 

That said, I'm always bothered by the posts of players who want to try to sex up everyone. With a few exceptions, the game does treat these as "romances," that is, the beginnings of a relationship, and not a one-night stand. I don't understand how these players can do all of the romantic things -- and some of them are very romantic, depending on the LI -- and then just drop them after sex without feeling like a total a-hole. I mean, if they want to RP that their character is a total user a-hole, then I suppose that's appropriate, but I don't get the feeling that is the case with most of these; they simply want to do it because they can.

Bit personal, but: While I was mooning over Kaidan for 3 games (and only romanced Steve on my alternate playthrough), my brother was plotting a complex strategic approach on whom to bang, and how to maximize banging bangable (for him) women in every single game. And that kind of is a perfect summary of how I view relationships and how he does.

So you know, some people play like that, because it's standard practice for them.

 

(And yeah, he tried to get all of the sex cards in Witcher 1)

[BioWareM0d13]

That was partly because Sean Bean nearly survived to the end of a film though. 

 

True. He is a walking spoiler.

[Steelcan]

True. He is a walking spoiler.

hey he survived all of National Treasure and the Martian!

[nightscrawl]

hey he survived all of National Treasure and the Martian!

 

Lol I didn't even know he was in The Martian. He's lucky they didn't just have him drop dead of a stress-induced heart attack for the heck of it.

[Sifr]

hey he survived all of National Treasure and the Martian!

 

Oblivion might count as well, since he ended that game both dead (as Martin Septim) and alive (as an aspect of Akatosh) depending on how you look at it?

 

And he survived all of Sharpe as well.

[HuldraDancer]

Just realized that that when I do the online kind of table top style games i get pretty quite when we are missing certain players. The idea of roleplaying other characters in games like this are still pretty new to me and my lack of social skills go against me. Does make it feel a little extra good when I do something right though

[Lady Artifice]

This thread:

 

http://forum.bioware...ns-protagonist/

 

I believe it is a troll attempt. A very successful one, judging by the replies.

 

I'm just saying, people on here talk about "SJW madness" all the time. But if this is the kind of evidence they're using, then I don't think they're concerned about making sure the examples they hold up are earnest.

[Biotic Apostate]

This thread:

 

http://forum.bioware...ns-protagonist/

 

I believe it is a troll attempt. A very successful one, judging by the replies.

 

I'm just saying, people on here talk about "SJW madness" all the time. But if this is the kind of evidence they're using, then I don't think they're concerned about making sure the examples they hold up are earnest.

"spirit kin affiliation" yeah obvious troll, people get baited too easily.

[Akrabra]

Well the bait works, but they also seem to only want drama, and to tell people what they should think and feel. It is kind of funny, and then it is just sad. 

[Lady Artifice]

My beef with that kind of thing isn't the trolling itself, it's the ugly cycle it helps perpetuate.

 

That gets held up as an example of political correctness gone mad, and then any time the subject of social issues are even mentioned, it's used as a way to lump all of that discussion together, extremist and non-extremist alike.

[SardaukarElite]

Are we dealing with a master, or are people just really stupid?

[Biotic Apostate]

Are we dealing with a master, or are people just really stupid?

I'm going with stupid. After Quarian Master Race started writing these obvious posts midway through, there is no way intelligent people would still keep making those "OMG Tumblr is destroying BW" posts.

[Lady Artifice]

Are we dealing with a master, or are people just really stupid?

 

I say both, with the additional element that some people seem to really want the extremism to be genuine, so that they seem reasonable in comparison.

[Steelcan]

Are we dealing with a master, or are people just really stupid?

there hasn't been a master of trolling around these parts in a while

 

*reminisces about Auld Wulf*

[SporkFu]

Should of put this up a while ago. 
 
We have a huge sink hole in our backyard. Huge. It's a bout a story deep and has been getting wider and wider, pretty sure it isn't covered under our insurance either. So far what it looks like is that one of the caves that we live over has caved in and that's where the hole in our backyard is coming from, luckily it doesn't seem to be getting any deeper and as far as I've been told the house itself is build on solid ground not over a cave. I feel terrible moving out soon while my grandmother has this problem even though I know there is nothing I can do to help and that she'd have more money to put to filling it without me there cause of all the dang doctors visits. Still I feel guilty not being able to help and really think I'm just adding more trouble for her even though I know full well the hole is out of my hands and I had to get surgery and couldn't really put it off and still currently shouldn't be driving myself to the doctors visits. Still doesn't stop me from feeling guilty.
 
Rant/pity party over. Feels nice to ***** that out and get it off my chest.

That's crazy! Okay here's what we'll need: some lanterns, some rope, shovels, pickaxes, at least one of us should have a GoPro, ...uhh ...some lightweight but nourishing food.

Maybe there will be treasure. Maybe we'll awaken dragons.

[daveliam]

This thread:

http://forum.bioware...ns-protagonist/

I believe it is a troll attempt. A very successful one, judging by the replies.

I'm just saying, people on here talk about "SJW madness" all the time. But if this is the kind of evidence they're using, then I don't think they're concerned about making sure the examples they hold up are earnest.

This thread was only successful in exposing the people who care more about complaining about 'SJWs' than actually using any reasoning/logic. I was gob smacked by how many people practically fell all over themselves to contribute unironically to that troll thread.

[Lady Artifice]

there hasn't been a master of trolling around these parts in a while

 

*reminisces about Auld Wulf*

 

 

What was his deal? 

[nightscrawl]

This thread:

 

http://forum.bioware...ns-protagonist/

 

I believe it is a troll attempt. A very successful one, judging by the replies.

 

I'm just saying, people on here talk about "SJW madness" all the time. But if this is the kind of evidence they're using, then I don't think they're concerned about making sure the examples they hold up are earnest.

 

I really don't want to go anywhere near the thread. In fact, I'm trying to stay away from most of the forum for a while, just coming to this group and the Dorian thread. After a night of continually refreshing the Patrick Weekes interview thread, I realized I was having issues and regretted having participated at all -- at least I had my revelatory moments about the Iron Bull/Krem stuff, which I was most pleased with.

 

I understand that it's a troll bait thread. That said, it seems to me like the only thing lacking for such a PC would be the dialogue options to legitimize it. I really don't see them doing that anytime soon. I don't think there is any way that they can get it right.

 

I have actually seen remarks from players who RP that their character is trans, so it's not like it isn't something that wouldn't be utilized.

 

The best, first place that Bioware can start would be in having a trans LI and seeing how they handle it. I'm really rooting for Mae in DA4. We got a small peek at her hubby, Thorold, in the comic, and she seems to really miss him still. Aside from the trans element, it would be nice to have a LI who had a former spouse and makes the PC aware of it, making no bones that they still love him/her, but still has room for new love**. Not something tragic like Zevran's Rina, but a normal sort of loss and natural coping that comes with it.

 

 

** With this sort of thing I'm reminded of the US VP Joe Biden and his occasional remarks about his dead wife (and daughter). The deaths affected him deeply, and still affect him, but he was able to find a new, second love to help him deal with it, and I think it's wonderful.

 

 

I'm going with stupid. After Quarian Master Race started writing these obvious posts midway through, there is no way intelligent people would still keep making those "OMG Tumblr is destroying BW" posts.

 

While I don't agree with that sentiment, one can't deny the influence of social media sites like Tumblr, and their toxicity. I've actually attempted to welcome people into the friendly Dorian thread who were concerned about this sort of thing. I don't say that they have an influence on Bioware, but they do have an influence on other fans, and there are elements on there that make the entire DA fandom look very bad. And honestly, the sheer venom with which some of those users attack some people is horrendous.

 

 

Randomly, daveliam, someone in the Dorian thread responded to a two-year-old post of yours. XD

[Biotic Apostate]

Sweet Andraste, that Patrick Weekes Interview thread. Why do I keep doing this to myself.

It's just one person comparing homosexuality to adultery and alcoholism.

 

Need a drink.

/rant

[nightscrawl]

^ Well, as displeased as I am with such things, I can see how gay players would feel personally attacked by such postings, so I think ignoring it in that case takes a different sort of restraint. I've seen you go back and forth with people with far more patience than I possess.

 

One of the problems I have is that it sometimes feels that if I get fed up and stop replying that the person will think that they've "won," which is a terrible thought. I only stopped posting in the thread when other people started stepping in. Witch Cocktor and I held him off until other people started waking up and logging on! Yay us! XD Then it got locked... Just as well, really.