Since the crucibles red blast thing is essentially an EMP, all they need to do is hide under a satellite dish like the gorgonites did in the movie Small Soldiers
All jokes aside, lets talk about the possibilty of the geth and EDI surviving the blast, do you believe there is any chance for them to live? Write an essay if you wish, i don't like short answers anyways
The Geth could have a chance at their race surviving. All they would have to have done was have some of them outside the galaxy thus outside the Crucible's area of effect. EDI however, not really since we know where she is: inside the Normandy. And the Normandy got hit by the Crucible wave, thus she was affected and in Destroy's case that means she was killed.
They just have to install JAM first X)
No essay.
Organics could always recreate Synthetics. We destroyed the rogue Luna VI only for it to reemerged as EDI.... EDI's next incarnation?
Why do we forget Admiral Xen? She's crazy enough and she's definitely going to bring back the Geth.
Simple
Once the arms are fully opened, the crucible fires a pulse throughout the galalxy that reprogramms the reapers to stop the harvest. After a moment, the reapers are seen leaving. It does not effect the geth or the edibot
Or it fires the red beam of goodies destroying all the reapers. Geth and the edibot are ok.
To determine which one really happens, BioWare will flip a coin. Heads for destroying the reapers. Tails for reprogramming the things.
The best part about this is it avoids the magic carpet ride up to lala land. It avoids the thing calling itself catalyst even though its creators call the thing, intelligence. It avoids you do not know them, and there's not enough time to explain comment. It avoids the synthesis is the final evolution of all life comment. It avoids the shoot this, pull this and jump in this endings.
No essay.
Organics could always recreate Synthetics. We destroyed the rogue Luna VI only for it to reemerged as EDI.... EDI's next incarnation?
Why do we forget Admiral Xen? She's crazy enough and she's definitely going to bring back the Geth.
nice plot,
I believe the Geth can be rebuilt by the Quarians, but EDI was officially dead in the EC (her name was placed on the Memorial Wall), and it would probably take longer for her based on how she was created. I headcanon there was a backup hidden in case such a situation occurred though, and that after rebuilding her, she would be herself again but without the Reaper tech.
They just have to install JAM first X)
or MEHEM
Otherwise, there is no real way for them to live. Not unless Bioware decides it's "artistic" and chooses to retcon their survival
As for how they could have survived. It's quite simple: a high enough EMS and the Citadel can distinguish between Reapers and other tech. Just as it can distinguish between Reapers and cyborgs, biotics, VIs, etc.
Don't get your hopes up for talking toaster buddies. I'll make sure they work properly and listen to their Rightful Masters this time, or else they get my weapon/ thd Destroy beam.Why do we forget Admiral Xen? She's crazy enough and she's definitely going to bring back the Geth.
Yeah, it's just really too bad those geth decided they had to "improve" themselves with Reaper technology ala Cerberus, or else they were gonna an-hero themselves on quarian bullets rather than helping.As for how they could have survived. It's quite simple: a high enough EMS and the Citadel can distinguish between Reapers and other tech. Just as it can distinguish between Reapers and cyborgs, biotics, VIs, etc.
^^^I was waiting for that QMR contribution
or MEHEM
Otherwise, there is no real way for them to live. Not unless Bioware decides it's "artistic" and chooses to retcon their survival
As for how they could have survived. It's quite simple: a high enough EMS and the Citadel can distinguish between Reapers and other tech. Just as it can distinguish between Reapers and cyborgs, biotics, VIs, etc.
Yep MEHEM
Yes just need to enable the crucible device to distinguish between them. However Darth Bratticus disabled it because your not allowed an ending that doesn't fulfill his delusional aims.
Quite simple really. If you believe the Catalyst, who is the enemy, the Crucible will destroy the Reapers as well as all synthetics. If you believe Hackett, your trusted friend, it will only destroy the Reapers.
The memorial scene is fishy, because your crew wasn't informed of either Anderson, EDI, or the Geth being killed. They were too busy gunning the engines to escape the blast. Before the blast, they weren't really sure what would happen when the Crucible went off.
Hackett is a trusted friend?
When was the crucible hinted as part of a reaper trap?
^^^They are too many plot holes to assume either of those, hackett might just be ignorant like the writers
I think it's more of a problem that the game doesn't explicitly state any of this. Just like any other so-called inconsistency with the ending. Everything must be meticulously explained and explicitly spelled out for the player. Otherwise, it's just speculation on the fans part.
That's not how Mass Effect's writing works as I understand it. It's quite highbrow throughout the trilogy, and not just the ending.
I don't think you know what a plot hole is.
So there was no hint at all that the crucible was a reaper trap? So why even mention that in your post?
You still haven't explained why you say Hackett is a trusted friend?
I think it's more of a problem that the game doesn't explicitly state any of this. Just like any other so-called inconsistency with the ending. Everything must be meticulously explained and explicitly spelled out for the player. Otherwise, it's just speculation on the fans part.
That's not how Mass Effect's writing works as I understand it. It's quite highbrow throughout the trilogy, and not just the ending.
I don't think you know what a plot hole is.
1v1 me babby
Yep MEHEM
Yes just need to enable the crucible device to distinguish between them. However Darth Bratticus disabled it because your not allowed an ending that doesn't fulfill his delusional aims.
How would it distinguish between say Reaper tech in a Reaper husk vs a geth platform filled with Reaper code? Consider EDI, as it was built using the Luna VI "improved" by Cerberus with Reaper software not unlike the what the geth can become post Rannoch. Judging by how it appears on the memorial, it is simply destroyed by the beam rather than the Reaper tech being pulled out while leaving the rest of the software functioning. No idea what happens to the platform, but according to how the codex describes AI's you aren't getting the simulated personality that was "EDI" back no matter what you do.
Another potential issue is that even if you could simply pull the Reaper tech out of the geth without destroying them, that same Reaper tech is literally the only reason they're still around in the first place. You'd just be making them vulnerable to the quarians (or anyone who could reproduce their research) again. Of course, in Biower writing 3 centuries old, socially programmed from birth grudges can apparently be mostly gotten over in less than a minute because of a feely speech given by some random human, so this may not be an issue at all.
How would it distinguish between say Reaper tech in a Reaper husk vs a geth platform filled with Reaper code? Consider EDI, as it was built using the Luna VI "improved" by Cerberus with Reaper software not unlike the what the geth can become post Rannoch. Judging by how it appears on the memorial, it is simply destroyed by the beam rather than the Reaper tech being pulled out while leaving the rest of the software functioning. No idea what happens to the platform, but according to how the codex describes AI's you aren't getting the simulated personality that was "EDI" back no matter what you do.
Another potential issue is that even if you could simply pull the Reaper tech out of the geth without destroying them, that same Reaper tech is literally the only reason they're still around in the first place. You'd just be making them vulnerable to the quarians (or anyone who could reproduce their research) again. Of course, in Biower writing 3 centuries old, socially programmed from birth grudges can apparently be mostly gotten over in less than a minute because of a feely speech given by some random human, so this may not be an issue at all.
Anyway i could just about take the notion the crucible is built so poorly that it can't tell the difference between an organic reaper and synthetic technology that has been upgraded along lines based on reaper coding. Then there's the fact you mention in terms of unknown effect of destroying those upgrades. Are they guaranteed to die or go back to what they were before. Both sets of AI existed prior to the upgrades.
However that's not what Darth Brat claims anyway. He says the crucible will not discriminate, all synthetics will be targeted, not all synthetics with reaper upgrades.
Anyway i could just about take the notion the crucible is built so poorly that it can't tell the difference between an organic reaper and synthetic technology that has been upgraded along lines based on reaper coding. Then there's the fact you mention in terms of unknown effect of destroying those upgrades. Are they guaranteed to die or go back to what they were before. Both sets of AI existed prior to the upgrades.
However that's not what Darth Brat claims anyway. He says the crucible will not discriminate, all synthetics will be targeted, not all synthetics with reaper upgrades.
Oh yea, it apparently can deliberately target synthetics regardless of Reaper tech, and the Catalyst intentionally has it target them because it's part of its solution. Never disputed that.
I just don't know where this ability to target "Reaper tech" that is only being used by actual Reapers would come from. It was more a criticism of using the specific term "Reaper tech" without stating in regard as to whom is doing so because pretty much everyone is using that in some form or another (Thanix Weapons, for instance), and at that point the distinction is essentially moot. You may as well just come out and say it only targets Reapers while leaving the geth (who literally run on Starbrat OS at this point), EDI and Derperus victims who had Reaper tech forcibly stuffed into their skulls alive (as I doubt they're gonna stay alive when you take away their Reaper implants) because spacemagic reasons, not because of any ability to differentiate between Reaper and non Reaper technology. Judging by what happens to the Husks in destroy despite not being synthetics or purely tech (as the Reapers aren't), it was always my interpretation that those people died all the same.
It's not like it would make less sense than Synthesis's ability to cybernetically "enhance" trees using "organic energy" and also bring back the personalities of husks who have been physiologically altered, anyway.
So there was no hint at all that the crucible was a reaper trap? So why even mention that in your post?
You still haven't explained why you say Hackett is a trusted friend?
It was hinted at during the conversation with the Illusive Man.
Hackett is more trustworthy than the Catalyst. How's that? You've known Hackett for years. You spoke to that kid for less than 10 minutes. That makes Hackett more trustworthy. It's like trusting some shady stranger on the street after one conversation, as opposed to someone you known very well for quite some time.
It was hinted at during the conversation with the Illusive Man.
What? The final conversation with TIM? What line of dialogue was hinted that the crucible was a trap?
Hackett is more trustworthy than the Catalyst. How's that?
That can be said about anybody. That doesn't make them my friend, right? How's that?
It was hinted at during the conversation with the Illusive Man.
Hackett is more trustworthy than the Catalyst. How's that? You've known Hackett for years. You spoke to that kid for less than 10 minutes. That makes Hackett more trustworthy. It's like trusting some shady stranger on the street after one conversation, as opposed to someone you known very well for quite some time.
Citation please.
The problem is that it has less to do with trust and more to do what hackett knows, hackett doesn't know everything about the crucible, the catalyst does, But then again, the catalyst is a product of bad writing. you pebble now we are even
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