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[PR3D4TOR]

Hi guys and girls,

 

I am new to Dragon Age (never even played through the first game) but now i have some time and want to play the trilogy   I want to play as a Mage  (Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage) or a Templar. 

 

I have a few questions regarding Mages vs. Templar:

 

1) How do Mages fight templar? Aren't the Templar "immune" to Magic? So how is it even possible to fight as a Mage when facing a Templar?

 

2) RPG-Stuff: Do the decisions of my character in Origins have a big impact on DAII? And do my decisions have in DAII have a big impact on DAIII? Because i would like to create a RPG Friendly Adventure when i play the three games.

I know you play different characters in every game but would it be wise to play on the side of the mages or templars throughout the entire trilogy if you look at it from a RPG Perspective or doesn't it really matter if you play one Game as a Templar and one game as a Mage?

That sounds weird, i know. But i really can not decide playing as Templar or Mage. So i would like to play as both when playing the 3 games and still have a somewhat RPG/Lore Friendly experience for myself. Do you get my point   ?

 

3) Gameplay: Is it easier as a templar or a Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage to play the game? I like a challenge so i will play on a high difficulty 

 

Thanks!

[Abyss108]

It would be difficult for a mage to fight a templar one on one, but it could be possible if the mage was very powerful. But Templars have been trained their entire life to kill mages, so the Templar would probably win in a fair fight. The mage would probably have an advantage in a fight against anyone else though. This is lore, in terms of gameplay, you can win as whatever, and you have a team of four people to counter whatever you are fighting.

 

In terms of who to support, you play as a different character in each game, so there is no reason you need to play the same viewpoint in every game. The decisions get carried on to the next game, but its usually nothing world changing. I would suggest just playing the game and supporting whoever you think sounds right as you go along.

 

I haven't played Templar, so I can't comment on how difficult it is!

 

One thing I'll point out that "Templar" is just a specialisation you can pick for combat, you don't get to play as a character with an actual Templar background. You can still choose to be either pro-Templar or pro-Mage no matter what you choose to play as.

[Catilina]

RP: Templars choose in the DA-series usually means that the majority of mages destroyed. Could say: it's a more paranoid and cruel choice. But the Mages, however, often unpredictable ... (I think)

 

The technical and logical issues I'd rather leave to others

[PR3D4TOR]

@ Abyss108

 

Thanks!

 

The thing is i do not want to play a Character that hates/kills Mages at all cost and then in the second/third game i want to play a totally different character that is a mage, especially if my actions carry over in the next games. Would not make much sense to me. 

Are there actually any consequences in DA 2 if you chose to side with Templars or Mages? I heard the Mages turn somewhat evil in the DAII and the Templars can be addicted to a drug that makes them immune to magic? Is that correct?

 

Well,  i think i will play as a Mage throughout the whole trilogy with different specializations each game.

 

 

@ Catilina:

 Thank you too! So RP-Wise, in DA II, if you want to relate  (similar viewpoint) to that character you played in DA:O, it would be a bit weird if you played as a Templar and now in the second game play as a Mage because they are just totoally different. 

[Catilina]

The DA2 decisions are very interesting, Hawke's fate fascinating – for me.

 

Spoiler

Its too sad story: Hawke's decisions are not influenced anything. (Almost nothing...) It just does not matter. Hawke only a toy in the hand of fate... (ok, maybe bloody toy...).

[Catilina]

 

@ Catilina:

 Thank you too! So RP-Wise, in DA II, if you want to relate  (similar viewpoint) to that character you played in DA:O, it would be a bit weird if you played as a Templar and now in the second game play as a Mage because they are just totoally different. 

Hawke not the Warden, and the Inquisitor not Hawke or not the Warden: each character may take their own decision. You can play different conception.

[PR3D4TOR]

Alirght.

 

I think i will side with the Mages, at least in DA:O, maybe i change my mind when playing the game but i just love that magic stuff

 

Another question: Who is the evil and who is the good side in the three games (mostly good/evil, i am sure that all sides make questionable decisions, but is there a general evil/good touch in the factions?)

[Catilina]

Alirght.

 

I think i will side with the Mages, at least in DA:O, maybe i change my mind when playing the game but i just love that magic stuff

 

Another question: Who is the evil and who is the good side in the three games (mostly good/evil, i am sure that all sides make questionable decisions, but is there a general evil/good touch in the factions?)

 

None is "good" or "evil" – the templars' decisions can be cruel. But the templars are not evil.

[Abyss108]

The games take place at different times, in different locations, so there won't be a massive consequence in terms of who you sided with in a previous game.

 

For example, you might choose to murder all the mages you can in the first game, but then in the second game you are in a different country with a different character. What you did in the first game might be mentioned, and people might talk about how it happened, but you are playing a different person in a different place so it won't massively affect what options you have. There are a few decisions that have a larger effect in later games, but generally speaking you won't lose later options.

 

Whether it makes sense to play characters with different viewpoints depends on how you look at it. From a meta point of view, if you are playing the entire series trying to get a specific result it would make sense you play a certain way in every game. Or if you play as "yourself" it would make sense to have the same viewpoint. Alternatively, you can view it as a series of stories which are told from varying perspectives and characters. Personally, I play characters with different opinions in each game, but always pro-Mage. There's no right or wrong option here!

[Abyss108]

Alirght.

 

I think i will side with the Mages, at least in DA:O, maybe i change my mind when playing the game but i just love that magic stuff

 

Another question: Who is the evil and who is the good side in the three games (mostly good/evil, i am sure that all sides make questionable decisions, but is there a general evil/good touch in the factions?)

 

No, theres's no objectively good or evil side here. You can argue either side. It's more about personal freedom vs public safety I guess. Templars lock mages away because they are dangerous, mages want freedom for themselves. Historically, there are reasons mages are feared, but whether that justifies the current situation is up to you. You will find people on the forum who will argue either side is the morally correct one.

[Tidus]

When I play a mage in DA:I Templars  fall like dominoes to my magic.

 

So far I haven't found a reason to kill Templars in DA:O.  When the Circle of Magi falls to a mage revolt the Templars run and close and lock the door leading to the tower and quake in their boots until the warden and his group arrives to set things right again.

 

Play your game as a mage.. You will enjoy it especially where the mage warden has her/his say to the--nope no more spoilers...

[Qis]

 

Hi guys and girls,

 

I am new to Dragon Age (never even played through the first game) but now i have some time and want to play the trilogy   I want to play as a Mage  (Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage) or a Templar. 

 

I have a few questions regarding Mages vs. Templar:

 

1) How do Mages fight templar? Aren't the Templar "immune" to Magic? So how is it even possible to fight as a Mage when facing a Templar?

 

2) RPG-Stuff: Do the decisions of my character in Origins have a big impact on DAII? And do my decisions have in DAII have a big impact on DAIII? Because i would like to create a RPG Friendly Adventure when i play the three games.

I know you play different characters in every game but would it be wise to play on the side of the mages or templars throughout the entire trilogy if you look at it from a RPG Perspective or doesn't it really matter if you play one Game as a Templar and one game as a Mage?

That sounds weird, i know. But i really can not decide playing as Templar or Mage. So i would like to play as both when playing the 3 games and still have a somewhat RPG/Lore Friendly experience for myself. Do you get my point   ?

 

3) Gameplay: Is it easier as a templar or a Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage to play the game? I like a challenge so i will play on a high difficulty 

 

Thanks!

 

 

Templars are not immune to magic, but they have resistence to magic, have high mental defense and they can nulify magic and mana. At least this is DA:O Templars, DA2 is different and DA:I is totally different

 

The only weakness to Mage against Templars is this, Templars can drain their mana out, meaning Mages cannot cast spells, that's why Mages who despise Templars end up using Blood Magic, in which using blood as the fuel instead of mana. This is the importance of Blood Magic in game-play and story-wise originally.

 

Because of Mages can use blood to fuel magic, and furthermore controling people through thier blood, that's why the Chantry banned the use of Blood Magic.

 

If you play as Amell no matter male or female, Hawke is your cousin in DA2. The import are not so major to notice, just some minor things to each games. There are no major impact for your decision on each games.

 

Arcane Warrior-Blood Mage is insanely powerful, if you know how to build and play it correctly. It will not be easy, depends on what types of AW-BM you build. Take a not that if you like casting spells, there is weapon draw issue that can be annoying. But you don't need to worry about mana because you can cast spells with health points instead, and mana used for sustain spells. You cannot heal normally unless you turn off the BM sustain, means you have to suck life force of your companions, any healing spells don't work.

 

Playing as Templar is most easy, no matter what type of a warrior you're, the most easiest is Sword and Shield Templar. If you have thief companion, you can steal Gregoir shield that give extra magic resistence. Your focus is to resist magic as high as possible, to a point where you don't care what magic being cast at you. To bad that Clease Aura don't effect on self, but if you pair up with Alistair you can debuff eachother. Make sure you have enough Willpower and stamina to cast Cleanse Aura and Holy Smite as well using power attacks. As for second specializatin i suggest Champion, don't choose Berserker because it will drain your stamina. With Champion specialization, if you're two handed, you can AoE knockdown three times with War Cry, Sweep and Holy Smite, if you have enough stamina

[PR3D4TOR]

Thank you! That clears up a lot. No questions left regarding DA:O. What is so different about Templars in DA2 and DA:I?

I started the Game with a Mage and specialized towards AW and BM (Two Handed)

[Qis]

Thank you! That clears up a lot. No questions left regarding DA:O. What is so different about Templars in DA2 and DA:I?

I started the Game with a Mage and specialized towards AW and BM (Two Handed)

 

Their skills are different, and there's some a retcon on the origin of their ability, in my point of view of course, it can be debated to death...it have been established that DA:O Templar don't really need lyrium, it just the Chantry tricked them, but skill description in DA2 making they really need lyrium and their skills come from lyrium. In both games the main character never take any lyrium to learn Templar ability, however in DA:I the main character need lyrium to learn it.

 

For me, it is a messed up lore

 

For a long time i thought all creatures have a certain degree of having magic, only Mages are so high because of their strong connection to the Fade, and magic come from The Fade. Normal people have weaker connection, but still have it, only Dwarves don't, and that's why Dwarves cannot cast magic at all. In my own perspective, Templars are normal people who trained to tap their weakest connection to magic and learn some of the Anti-Magic school spells, and The Chantry fooling them saying that lyrium can enhance their power, they do that only to make Templars addicted and easier to control.

 

But well, i don't really care about it now...

[keeneaow]

Thank you! That clears up a lot. No questions left regarding DA:O. What is so different about Templars in DA2 and DA:I?

I started the Game with a Mage and specialized towards AW and BM (Two Handed)

i strongly advocate king cailens armor and his sword and shield for AW/BM,

you will want the life regeneration for BM spells, and the mana regeneration for SS,

two-hander is not an alternative