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[BennyORWO]

Ok,I have this crazy ideea:could be teleportation in ME:A?

Why I have this crazy ideea?Because of a picture from N7 day 2013:

[Quarian Master Race]

The Vanguard has already been capable of this without a transporter pad (only needing an enemy to smash into) since ME2. Some ME3MP characters as well (Turian Cabal, N7 Furry, Slayer and Shadow). Banshees too.

 

Personally, I'd like them to forget any of that happened just like the ME2 Shep dies and the ME3 ending. Vanguard can get a force biotic jump or something less silly, instead. Or just use the jetpack

[SardaukarElite]

It could just be a hologram projector, or a bacta tank, or any number of things. 

 

But I'd rather teleportation wasn't in ME. 

[BennyORWO]

What if we discover teleportation technology in Andromeda from the Remnants?I think will be awesome.

[countofhell]

Between 2 teleport pads why not ?  But i don't think Star Trek like teleportation is suitable for the Mass Effect Universe. Teleportation and time travel does not fit for Mass Effect , it never was.

[Novak]

Is that a Dell u2711?

[Sartoz]

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Teleportation is much better than dropping an all terrain vehicle from the sky, which I consider the equivalent of Ford's Model-T. The former is better suited to the sci-fi genre.

 

But, then, we will be missing out on the "exciting" and repeating Macko animations.

[ebuchala]

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Teleportation is much better than dropping an all terrain vehicle from the sky, which I consider the equivalent of Ford's Model-T. The former is better suited to the sci-fi genre.

 

But, then, we will be missing out on the "exciting" and repeating Macko animations.

 

Hey, don't be dissing the Mako.  I loved that vehicle. You could climb up a mountain with it--even if it took you 3 times longer to do that than to drive around the same mountain. I always found it pretty funny they'd throw you out of the ship in your metal box of death on those missions. And they never explained how they got the Mako back onto the ship.

[Laughing_Man]

The Vanguard has already been capable of this without a transporter pad (only needing an enemy to smash into) since ME2. Some ME3MP characters as well (Turian Cabal, N7 Furry, Slayer and Shadow). Banshees too.

 

Personally, I'd like them to forget any of that happened just like the ME2 Shep dies and the ME3 ending. Vanguard can get a force biotic jump or something less silly, instead. Or just use the jetpack

 

The basic vanguard charge didn't include teleportation, you just move really fast and hit like a space truck.

 

As for the rest of the ME3 MP classes many of them had very little to do with canon ("awakened" collectors, Volus beach balls, Quarians doing front line combat when a single scratch is enough to disable them, etc.), so I'm just going to pretend that the whole thing simply didn't happen.

[BennyORWO]

And they never explained how they got the Mako back onto the ship.

This.

Good question.

Maybe Normandy lands on a planet,but what if the planet its like Eletania,or Nodacrux?How you land there? )

[Laughing_Man]

This.

Good question.

Maybe Normandy lands on a planet,but what if the planet its like Eletania,or Nodacrux?How you land there? )

 

The Mako is apparently able to jump / fly / float to a respectable height and enter into the Normandy's cargo bay in the air.

[countofhell]

On the picture is some kind of communicator device.

[BennyORWO]

Maybe..possible a holographic device.

[rspanther]

Don't they just call it "fast travel"?

[BennyORWO]

Don't they just call it "fast travel"?

That's something else.I was thinking about teleportation,like in Star Trek,you teleport from settlement planet,to the ship orbiting the planet,or something like that.

[Quarian Master Race]

The basic vanguard charge didn't include teleportation, you just move really fast and hit like a space truck.

 

As for the rest of the ME3 MP classes many of them had very little to do with canon ("awakened" collectors, Volus beach balls, Quarians doing front line combat when a single scratch is enough to disable them, etc.), so I'm just going to pretend that the whole thing simply didn't happen.

Because this is clearly as ridiculous as the other two. Quarians totally hadn't been doing this for 3 full games, at least 2 books and at least 1 comic up to this point, nope. We also totally didn't have such a squadmate for all 3 games who is canonically shot on at least two seperate (i.e. not related to gameplay) occasions and recovers just fine, either. Nope, single scratch= dead.
 

[MichaelN7]

Maybe not teleportation in the "traditional" sense, or at least not readily available in that fashion.

 

Most likely it would be something akin to the Biotic Charge, in that the Vanguard becomes a miniature mass-relay.

It would be FTL-Lite, in that it would use a minuscule amount of eezo, and rather than going at light-speed (thousands of miles per second), it would be more akin to a hypersonic flight (thousands of miles per hour).

 

Passenger gets aboard the "vessel", it goes through the mini-relay, and in minutes is at their destination.

Each destination would have to be at an elevated position, to accommodate the curvature of a planet, since mass relays work in straight lines.

Think mag-rail on eezo, it would make a good source of side-missions:

 

"Pathfinder, our Mass Transit System has been sabotaged by Khet forces, and our security was decimated!"

"We need you to send you or your strike team to clear them out and restore power!"

 

Regardless, the technology exists in the Mass Effect universe, it would just need to be miniaturized.

[Laughing_Man]

Because this is clearly as ridiculous as the other two. Quarians totally hadn't been doing this for 3 full games, at least 2 books and at least 1 comic up to this point, nope. We also totally didn't have such a squadmate for all 3 games who is canonically shot on at least two seperate (i.e. not related to gameplay) occasions and recovers just fine, either. Nope, single scratch= dead.
 

 

I am comparing what the canon says to what the canon shows, and this inconsistency is exactly my point.

 

On one hand Quarians should be disabled or close to it - with status deteriorating rapidly - during any case of suit breach, at least according to the lore.

I mean, Reegar agreed that Quarians are not good in front line situations, and he is a marine himself.

 

And on the other hand the game kind of ignores it, especially with the MP.

[KamuiStorm]

I actually would prefer teleportation over a Jet back or at the very least a mass effect equivalent of DA's fade step or bleachs flash step that can be utilized in and out of combat for faster movement. If we need to get up on a ledge or higher ground why not a biotic jump or biotic levitation? Basically I want more biotic depth

[Quarian Master Race]

I am comparing what the canon says to what the canon shows, and this inconsistency is exactly my point.

 

On one hand Quarians should be disabled or close to it - with status deteriorating rapidly - during any case of suit breach, at least according to the lore.

Where does it say that in "canon"? Is it immediately after the bit in one of Tali's convos where she states "if a bit of stray bacteria could really kill us, we'd have all died by now" after literally being shot (for the 2nd time in 2 years) on the Alarei, but before she then descrbes at length how the suits seal breaches so they dont pose a life threatening issue?

 

I mean, Reegar agreed that Quarians are not good in front line situations, and he is a marine himself.

 

And on the other hand the game kind of ignores it, especially with the MP.

Reegar says no such thing, as in doing so he would be directly insulting his own abilites, which would make no sense. He merely acknowledges that collectively quarians are more vulnerable as a ground based fighting force when they don't have access to meds due to the logistics of warfighting, not that he's or anyone else is individually  a useless grunt because a gunshot put him out of action for a week. Hell, real gunshots ordinarily disable modern humans anywhere from several months to permanently just due to physical damage. Are they not following the "lore" as well?  There's absolutely no problem with quarians fielding a small number of specialist ground troops in lore.

 

It ignores nothing, you're simply inventing hyperbolic headcanon. There's literally no example of anything like what you're describing happening or being descrbed anywhere, and a huge number of examples from multiple sources that this isn't the case.

[Laughing_Man]

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That's debatable, but I don't have enough time or passion to spend on this particular debate.

(especially not with someone that feels as strongly about Quarians as you)

 

Still my initial point regarding lore and how the MP in particular crapped all over it still stands even without the Quarian point.

Also in regards to the original Vanguard charge not being teleportation.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That picture shows almost certainly a hologram projector. We've seen them before, like in the war room of the Normandy in Mass Effect 3. 

[Quarian Master Race]

That's debatable, but I don't have enough time or passion to spend on this particular debate.

(especially not with someone that feels as strongly about Quarians as you)

 

Still my initial point regarding lore and how the MP in particular crapped all over it still stands even without the Quarian point.

Also in regards to the original Vanguard charge not being teleportation.

It's debatable in the same sense that the theory of evolution or round earth is. I can provide loads of evidence for my position, while you can't even give us a single context correct dialogue line. Literally the first thing we learn about a quarian (other than the species name) in this series is that they can take a bullet then go looking for the Shadow Broker almost immediately after treatment, and we see multiple examples of this in later books and games. How this is consistent with your (totally not other species fanboyism motivated hate, seeing as we're now apparently calling out known biases) headcanon of wussbags who get knocked out and die from a papercut yet somehow haven't been dealt with by natural selection, I don't know, but continue to believe the Earth is flat all you want.

 

MP isn't that bad with the exception of the illegal unshakled AI sexbots apparently being common, and Reaper upgraded geth showing up even if you blow them up trashing player choice (both of which were DLC, we initially had just the Council species, drell, krogan and quarians). Everything else is justifiable IMO. Volus are silly, but they don't have to be first choice soldiers for a few to pick up a weapon and fight in a war for survival, and it's not as if they aren't rightfully portrayed as bad at it by essentially being the most ineffective joke kits in the game. We see and read in war asset entries about the Leviathan controlling Reaper creatures as thralls as well, so Collector is fine too. Albiet they shouln't be as common as the major species.

 

Vanguard literally flying and crashing into solid objects to somehow regen barriers is even dumber than it being a short FTL jump. 

[KamuiStorm]

Boom got it, why not just take a page from Hunter Zolomon's book? You know professor zoom, he alters time relative to himself by either accelerating or decelerating it resulting in him moving at immensely slow or fast speeds in doing so. He's even been able to move faster than Barry Allan who is the fastest flash of all time. Why not utilize a mini mass effect drive or reverse engineered mini reaper drive so you can accomplish the same feat? Of course on a smaller scale

[Draining Dragon]

If by teleportation you mean travelling between two points without traversing the space between, then no. I'd prefer they stick to the technological premises that have already been established within the franchise, which can essentially be boiled down to mass effect fields and fast computers.