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[UniformGreyColor]

No, a reboot takes the original idea and reimagines it, pretending the original interpretation doesn't exist. A reboot of Dragon Age would be something along the lines of keeping the lore intact, but going back and retelling the story of the Hero of Ferelden and the fifth Blight again. 

 

I looked it up online and it seems you are right. I guess DA series games are only a little bit of a reboot as the story dictates that the central figure largely remain the same, just with some previously unknown things brought to light, such as the case with Leliana, as far as I know. I haven't really read the comics or books on the series, so they might be explained there, but as far as the video game series is concerned, there's just not much info given on how A went to B went to C with some things.

[BansheeOwnage]

The best example I have to explain what a reboot is would be Star Trek 2009. Same characters, alternate universe, basically. Although technically, that alternate universe is in the same world as the original Star Trek one, it's just an alternate timeline. But I digress.

[archav3n]

i'm not sure if dragon age needs a reboot. maybe we need a new fantasy IP? to be honest, i love the elves in tolkien settings as well as the dwarves. the elves in dragon age are mostly talking about alienage or slavery or depicts lowly of elves. why do you need to do the opposite reverse to make yourself (your own IP) feels different?

[AlanC9]

Maybe they were just plain bored with Tolkein elves?

[UniformGreyColor]

Maybe they were just plain bored with Tolkein elves?

 

True enough, the elves in DA compared to Tolkein is night and day.

[Ghost Gal]

No love for Dragon Age dwarves being just slightly different from the standard Tolkien dwarves we see in every fantasy story ever?

 

Just the fact that there is a thriving surface dwarf culture and/or male dwarves without facial hair, and there are multiple female dwarves and/or sexual dimorphism (Tolkien's dwarves were mostly male, with the few females being indistinguishable from males--something most fantasy stories have copied, if they bother to mention/depict female dwarves at all) is pretty huge.

[midnight tea]

No love for Dragon Age dwarves being just slightly different from the standard Tolkien dwarves we see in every fantasy story ever?

 

Just the fact that there is a thriving surface dwarf culture and/or male dwarves without facial hair, and there are multiple female dwarves and/or sexual dimorphism (Tolkien's dwarves were mostly male, with the few females being indistinguishable from males--something most fantasy stories have copied, if they bother to mention/depict female dwarves at all) is pretty huge.

 

Add to the fact that they're connected to a large, underground creature, can't cast magic for some reason, but can mine lyrium and enchant, plus there are hints suggesting that at one point or another they've warred with ancient elves and then ancient elves have chased them under the Earth's surface. 

[Ghost Gal]

Add to the fact that they're connected to a large, underground creature, can't cast magic for some reason, but can mine lyrium and enchant

 

That's true, I'd forgotten about these details. As a stock fantasy species, dwarves were never pegged as spellcasters (unless it was to infuse magic into the things they crafted), but BioWare went the extra mile by explaining that they flat out can't cast magic, and gave interesting lore reasons for it that we're still uncovering as the story unfolds.

 

plus there are hints suggesting that at one point or another they've warred with ancient elves and then ancient elves have chased them under the Earth's surface.

 

Eh, this I find a little less inspired. The whole "they've warred with ancient elves" thing just falls back on that tired old "Elves Verses Dwarves" stock trope, which I'm frankly sick of.

 

I'd also hesitate to pin elves as the culprit behind dwarves living underground to begin with, because the thing is people don't tend to thrive when forced out of their homes into environments they aren't familiar with. And the underground isn't exact a hospitable environment (even before darkspawn). Yet, when elves were at the height of their power it's implied that dwarves had a vast and luscious underground empire filled with complex tunnel systems that spanned the entire continent. That's pretty sweet.

 

Also, is it just me, or is it implied that the Titans are "The Stone" that dwarves worship and are connected to, and the titans themselves look like they do better underground than above ground as it is? (Can you imagine those things walking around on the surface?   )

[NovenFromTheSun]

No love for Dragon Age dwarves being just slightly different from the standard Tolkien dwarves we see in every fantasy story ever?
 
Just the fact that there is a thriving surface dwarf culture and/or male dwarves without facial hair, and there are multiple female dwarves and/or sexual dimorphism (Tolkien's dwarves were mostly male, with the few females being indistinguishable from males--something most fantasy stories have copied, if they bother to mention/depict female dwarves at all) is pretty huge.

And their beer is terrible.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I for one hate how the Dragon Age dwarves were handled. I want my rowdy, axe-wielding badasses with beards and Scottish accents.

[TheExtreamH]

No, i'm quite invested in the current DA Lore and formula. It would be a huge turn off if we got a reboot.

[MonkeyLungs]

They are really close to wrapping up the grand tale of The Dragon Age .... it would be so bizarre for them to reboot now. It would also display a distinct lack of respect for the creators of the fiction and the fans of the fiction.

[Bhryaen]

A reboot would be completely contrary to the primary strength that DA has going for it: it's central narrative. As "yawn" or "too Tolkeinesque" (because elves in LotR were slaves too... oh, wait) as the OP apparently considers it, I find DA to be the most creatively mature, politically sophisticated, and deeply-conceived world of any fantasy setting. The writing has been consistently highest quality regarding the central narrative. Nothing else holds a candle to it. Elder Scrolls' main narrative slogs along in the background like a wannabe and TW just borrows from known critter tales and myths the way DA supposedly borrows from Tolkein. And DA keeps introducing new, interesting concepts to build upon- at this point the titans and early/primal elves as well as the whole Tevinter/qunari struggle with all their intricate political ramifications for the player's choices. DA is the only setting I know that even attempts such a "modern sensibility" approach to fantasy storytelling, and also the only one to provide an explanation of magic (beyond "cuz magic") and does so in an exceptionally intriguing way that calls into question the nature of reality itself in the DAverse- with all the philosophical implications intact. No, DA should just proceed to its next intriguing stage of revealing the world that our customizable characters inhabit and struggle to preserve, not start all over as if it's gone awry on its narrative. The narrative is pretty much the only way it hasn't gone nastily awry in some way. Especially given that we have no recurring or set protagonist, the only thing that ties together the three DA's thus far is the great writing. Do make DA4 a continuation, not a reboot.

 

Reworking the gameplay has always been a given. They revise the skill/magic trees drastically every time. Wouldn't even be inconsistent to see a DA4 with a completely new spell format or crafting dynamic. They screwed the tactics system, yes, as the OP mentions, but that doesn't affect the narrative, so they'd just have to reintroduce it properly for DA4, not reboot the franchise over it. I could list the myriad things I'd prefer for DA4- the bulk of which would be improvements on gameplay and encounter construction- but even as sweeping as the changes I'd advocate- such as reintroducing origin playthroughs and making the game engine more amenable to modders- none of those changes face some obstacle requiring returning the franchise to square one. Can't disagree with the OP more on this point. The devs have zed to feel awkward about or account for there. It's not just their best achievement in this franchise but surpasses any other game the franchise may be presently failing against on other grounds.

[bEVEsthda]

I think it was the opposite, and that it was intentionally not crafted to be unique. They were vigorously trying to pull the classic western RPG crowd, and in that regard they played it very safe with the visual design, plot, and even with a good amount of the gameplay mechanics.

 

- Oh absolutely! That is well known. That is the game they wanted to do. The operating guideline was "generic" for visual design.

But you're missing the point: What it is. In doing that they created something unique. In re-doing it for DA2 they only aligned themselves with what was fashionable in contemporary fantasy design for teenagers.

[DragonAgeLegend]

No. I love it for the way it is, such an amazing franchise. 

[Guitar-Hero]

True enough, the elves in DA compared to Tolkein is night and day.

Or day and later on the day where the sun is up buuut not quite enough to be qualified as "day". So day and late afternoon-ish 

[Iakus]

No love for Dragon Age dwarves being just slightly different from the standard Tolkien dwarves we see in every fantasy story ever?

 

Just the fact that there is a thriving surface dwarf culture and/or male dwarves without facial hair, and there are multiple female dwarves and/or sexual dimorphism (Tolkien's dwarves were mostly male, with the few females being indistinguishable from males--something most fantasy stories have copied, if they bother to mention/depict female dwarves at all) is pretty huge.

 

Orzamarr dwarves are more like drow than Tolkien's dwarves.  Conniving, political backstabbers more concerned with the appearance of honor than actually having it.

 

Seriously, aside from having elves, dwarves, and dragons, Thedas isn't much like Middle Earth at all.

 

Will Dragon Age have to be rebooted?  Eventually, probably.  Once the divergence caused by choices in the games makes things unsustainable.  But that point hasn't been reached yet.

[vertigomez]

I'll only accept a reboot if there's a fixed protagonist and the first three games take place entirely in the Blooming Rose. Series tagline: "Why work if you're not working hard?"

[KaiserShep]

I for one hate how the Dragon Age dwarves were handled. I want my rowdy, axe-wielding badasses with beards and Scottish accents.

 

 

Personally I think that the DA dwarves are the absolute best version of the fantasy race. They're a bunch of gangsters and corrupt politicians and are connected to a weird magical mineral that's become part of their sort-of religion, and are part of a dying society being constantly beaten against by horrible monsters. 

[Jedi Comedian]

I'll only accept a reboot if there's a fixed protagonist and the first three games take place entirely in the Blooming Rose. Series tagline: "Why work if you're not working hard?"

I support this, but only if The Pearl is also visited.