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[PapaCharlie9]

Did you know that the Rogue Sabotage ability Hook & Tackle with the It Beats Walking upgrade ...

1. Does 150% damage?
2. Procs "on hit" masterworks?
3. Is a fast way to farm Snoufleur in Emprise du Lion?

Here's a video that demonstrates all of the above. There is a Hidden Blades proc on the last of the 3 Snoufleur. My character is the only one who had that proc and no other rogues in the party.

 

 

 

Granted, an upgraded Chain Lightning or just one-shotting them with an OP bow is probably faster for herds of critters and doesn't require any assistance from other party members, but I was pleasantly surprised that Hook & Tackle worked at all for this purpose. It ... sure beats walking! Well, except for the going back and picking up the loot part.

[CorniliuS]

Somebody still doing that!? I mean farming? After my first pt I decided never again and installed the mod, now every time I pick up metal or kill someone I get ft material. Farming!? Farming is horrible!

[sjsharp2011]

Did you know that the Rogue Sabotage ability Hook & Tackle with the It Beats Walking upgrade ...

1. Does 150% damage?
2. Procs "on hit" masterworks?
3. Is a fast way to farm Snoufleur in Emprise du Lion?

Here's a video that demonstrates all of the above. There is a Hidden Blades proc on the last of the 3 Snoufleur. My character is the only one who had that proc and no other rogues in the party.

 

 

 

Granted, an upgraded Chain Lightning or just one-shotting them with an OP bow is probably faster for herds of critters and doesn't require any assistance from other party members, but I was pleasantly surprised that Hook & Tackle worked at all for this purpose. It ... sure beats walking! Well, except for the going back and picking up the loot part.

yeah along with Stealth it's one of my favourite rogue powers actually.

[Dabrikishaw]

Somebody still doing that!? I mean farming? After my first pt I decided never again and installed the mod, now every time I pick up metal or kill someone I get ft material. Farming!? Farming is horrible!

Not everyone plays on PC dude.

[Arvaarad]

I've loved It Beats Walking since my first rogue. Other things it's useful for:

1. Spammable mobility skill. This is effectively a dodge with no cooldown and no stamina cost. All you need is one other target, friendly or hostile, and you can rapidly get away from a troublesome attack.
2. Soloing dragons. Against solo rogues, dragons hop away a lot, so it's good to have a gap closer. Gets you out of breath range and into stabby stabby range quickly, even if the dragon keeps retreating. Kicks are a lot easier to avoid than breath, so staying glued to the dragon really improves survivability. With good aim and timing, you can even use this ability to slide from a kicking leg to a non-kicking leg.
3. Fennec surfing. Fennecs are abominations unto the face of Thedas, and must be eliminated. In the Western Approach, these loathsome vermin are numerous enough to use as a mode of fast travel.

The only thing I love more than It Beats Walking is Skirmisher. But it's a close matchup.

[actionhero112]

The jump off you do at the end interrupts channels as well, such as things like enemy archer full draws.

 

[PapaCharlie9]

The jump off you do at the end interrupts channels as well, such as things like enemy archer full draws.

 

I was wondering about that ... seems to do a stagger animation on the target.

[sjsharp2011]

I've loved It Beats Walking since my first rogue. Other things it's useful for:

1. Spammable mobility skill. This is effectively a dodge with no cooldown and no stamina cost. All you need is one other target, friendly or hostile, and you can rapidly get away from a troublesome attack.
2. Soloing dragons. Against solo rogues, dragons hop away a lot, so it's good to have a gap closer. Gets you out of breath range and into stabby stabby range quickly, even if the dragon keeps retreating. Kicks are a lot easier to avoid than breath, so staying glued to the dragon really improves survivability. With good aim and timing, you can even use this ability to slide from a kicking leg to a non-kicking leg.
3. Fennec surfing. Fennecs are abominations unto the face of Thedas, and must be eliminated. In the Western Approach, these loathsome vermin are numerous enough to use as a mode of fast travel.

The only thing I love more than It Beats Walking is Skirmisher. But it's a close matchup.

Yeah thatls kind of why I like using it  as well when the dragon is lining 8up to kick me I throw in a flank attack on it's other leg. That way it rarely gets me and I end up dealing yet more damage to the beast.

[Gya]

I've loved It Beats Walking since my first rogue. Other things it's useful for:

1. Spammable mobility skill. This is effectively a dodge with no cooldown and no stamina cost. All you need is one other target, friendly or hostile, and you can rapidly get away from a troublesome attack.
2. Soloing dragons. Against solo rogues, dragons hop away a lot, so it's good to have a gap closer. Gets you out of breath range and into stabby stabby range quickly, even if the dragon keeps retreating. Kicks are a lot easier to avoid than breath, so staying glued to the dragon really improves survivability. With good aim and timing, you can even use this ability to slide from a kicking leg to a non-kicking leg.
3. Fennec surfing. Fennecs are abominations unto the face of Thedas, and must be eliminated. In the Western Approach, these loathsome vermin are numerous enough to use as a mode of fast travel.

The only thing I love more than It Beats Walking is Skirmisher. But it's a close matchup.

 

Hm, it's a tricky one for me, but I think on balance, I love elemental mines a tad more than hook & tackle. It's a close run thing, but well, I don't mind walking if there are explosions

 

Hook & tackle so awesome though, truly one of the greatest QoL fixes in this game.

[PapaCharlie9]

Hm, it's a tricky one for me, but I think on balance, I love elemental mines a tad more than hook & tackle. It's a close run thing, but well, I don't mind walking if there are explosions

Do I have to choose? My favorite Artificer tactic is H&T, drop mines, then Leaping Shot into Stealth to get away.

[PhroXenGold]

Do I have to choose? My favorite Artificer tactic is H&T, drop mines, then Leaping Shot into Stealth to get away.

 

Even without the mines, alternating H&T and LS is always fun on an Artificer. You're basically a demented yo-yo that kills everything. Particularly if you can get the timing down and hit LS while in the middle of the flip at the end of H&T instead of waiting till you land.

[PapaCharlie9]

Even without the mines, alternating H&T and LS is always fun on an Artificer. You're basically a demented yo-yo that kills everything. Particularly if you can get the timing down and hit LS while in the middle of the flip at the end of H&T instead of waiting till you land.

For grins, I fought a promoted Hurlock Archer with just H&T. It's kind of like a weaker cousin of Combat Roll/Coming Through. Spamming all of those 150% free attacks with criticals and HB procs add up pretty quick. He couldn't shoot back since the H&T interrupts.