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Would it be a good idea to make ME: A's beginning similar to the beginning of DA: II's?


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Madeline McQueen

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I've been reading lots of threads on here and some people have said they want / think that ME: A will start half way through ME 2 or 3. Others think it will or they would like it to start years after ME 3.

 

What if they could do both? In DA: II they did it that way. You start off in the middle of DA: O, then a year later you hear that your warden slays the dragon and wins the war against the darkspawn. After that your Hawke's own life, missions and tales carries on. Eventually seven years pass when you complete DA: II.

 

That could easily be done in ME: A. I'm going to use some examples I've seen to give a brief idea. What if your second character starts from ME 3 for example when Shepard was grounded? It was said in videos that I've seen that your second character was sent to Andromeda because humans want to colonise a new world. Well what if there was another meaning behind it? Say he / she was sent to Andromeda because the council (or whoever) could also use that new planet as a plan B - a new planet to escape to if the reapers won. Then similar to DA: II your second character finds out that shepard picked one of four options at the end. (Apparently there were four options and not just three. I've never tried the forth one, I haven't seen it. Apparently you can "kill" or shoot the boy which allows the cycle and reapers to carry on harvesting. Don't know about that one though.) Your character can find out what happened then carry on with his / her own mission, maybe seeing vids and reading messages from people updating you on what has been happening since Shepard's decision. That way questions can be answered and wholes can be filled.

 

What does anyone else think? Did you have similar ideas?   



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That could work, as long as the Pathfinder doesn'take any substantive decisions in that intervening time.

But unlike DA2, absolutely zero gameplay should take place prior to character creation.
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You cant actually kill catalyst but he does get really mad if you try. As if to say "This is what happens when you try and negotiate with you idiots. Have it your way."
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Madeline McQueen

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That could work, as long as the Pathfinder doesn'take any substantive decisions in that intervening time.

But unlike DA2, absolutely zero gameplay should take place prior to character creation.

I wonder what path BioWare is going to take. I really want to know.  :o



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You cant actually kill catalyst but he does get really mad if you try. As if to say "This is what happens when you try and negotiate with you idiots. Have it your way."

Oh really. So does the cycle carry on then, every 50,000 years the reapers will continue? That's what I read anyway. 



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Oh really. So does the cycle carry on then, every 50,000 years the reapers will continue? That's what I read anyway.


No the next cycle defeats the reapers using the crucible.

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No the next cycle defeats the reapers using the crucible.

 

I like to think it was the Pyjaks who actually build it. :)


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I like to think it was the Pyjaks who actually build it. :)


A fitting end to the trilogy.

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I don't even know what that means.....

You lot need to go back to the correct forum so you can discuss fighting orcs and banging Legolas in the proper context. This section is for the Mass Effect Master Race, and we grow tired of the medieval stench of unwashed arse and Balrogs.
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I don't even know what that means.....

You lot need to go back to the correct forum so you can discuss fighting orcs and banging Legolas in the proper context. This section is for the Mass Effect Master Race, and we grow tired of the medieval stench of unwashed arse and Balrogs.

You've even got the Quarian sass down to a tee. Is that method acting? 

On with the topic; it's an interesting idea however, how would they find out? Unless the Ark Ship has been dropping out comm buoys since it left the Milky Way (sort of a bad idea if you don't want to be followed by a race of genocidal sentient capital ships) then they'd have no way of sending a message to them. Which leaves sending another ship to Andromeda upon victory. Seeing as we don't yet know for certain what method was used to get to Andromeda, or how long it even took them to get there, it could be a loooooong time. 

Plus then it just opens the door for people to potentially complain that they may not be notified on the true outcome of 'their' Shepard and if s/he had little blue babies or not. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd rather not deal with that tosh again.


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It depends how developed they want the infrastructure in Andromeda to be. If they want the game to start as soon as they arrive it will be lacking an established city and industrial base. The first job would just be to scout out the best possible planet for a colony and that could take years. You could tell an interesting story through these years but you would have to forget expansion for the next 50 years at least (unless expansion is purely Krogan), there just wouldn't be the right base for it.

 

That's why I have a feeling the actual game could start 50-200 years after we arrive in Andromeda. We could of course get a cutscene from leaving the milky way or even play a prologue or something dealing with the early arrival in Andromeda. It doesn't even have to be the same character we ultimately play. It might not be a coincidence that the early trailer cutscene we saw had an Asari and Krogan, two particularly long-lived species, in it.


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No the next cycle defeats the reapers using the crucible.

Ah right, thanks for letting me know. I don't like that option, Shepard could just finish it there and then. Personally my Shepard wouldn't let the next cycle have to deal with all that.  


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I don't even know what that means.....

You lot need to go back to the correct forum so you can discuss fighting orcs and banging Legolas in the proper context. This section is for the Mass Effect Master Race, and we grow tired of the medieval stench of unwashed arse and Balrogs.

What are you on? 



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Madeline McQueen

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You've even got the Quarian sass down to a tee. Is that method acting? 

On with the topic; it's an interesting idea however, how would they find out? Unless the Ark Ship has been dropping out comm buoys since it left the Milky Way (sort of a bad idea if you don't want to be followed by a race of genocidal sentient capital ships) then they'd have no way of sending a message to them. Which leaves sending another ship to Andromeda upon victory. Seeing as we don't yet know for certain what method was used to get to Andromeda, or how long it even took them to get there, it could be a loooooong time. 

Plus then it just opens the door for people to potentially complain that they may not be notified on the true outcome of 'their' Shepard and if s/he had little blue babies or not. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd rather not deal with that tosh again.

Yeah I can see what you mean, BioWare would have to get creative. Sadly though, no matter what they do, someone will be unhappy with something, it's unavoidable. All they can do is try and please as many as they can and hopefully the majority will be. :)  

 

Personally apart from finding out the results of my Shepard's ending choice, I'm not too bothered about what happens. Yeah it would be a nice little bonus to find out what happened to Shepard's crew after she died for the second and final time, but I'd really like to know if my Shepard killing herself was worth it seeing as she had no other choice but to sacrifice herself. :(  



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It depends how developed they want the infrastructure in Andromeda to be. If they want the game to start as soon as they arrive it will be lacking an established city and industrial base. The first job would just be to scout out the best possible planet for a colony and that could take years. You could tell an interesting story through these years but you would have to forget expansion for the next 50 years at least (unless expansion is purely Krogan), there just wouldn't be the right base for it.

 

That's why I have a feeling the actual game could start 50-200 years after we arrive in Andromeda. We could of course get a cutscene from leaving the milky way or even play a prologue or something dealing with the early arrival in Andromeda. It doesn't even have to be the same character we ultimately play. It might not be a coincidence that the early trailer cutscene we saw had an Asari and Krogan, two particularly long-lived species, in it.

That makes sense. I always thought it would start after ME 3 mainly because of the cut scene at the end (the grandfather telling his grandson years later what Shepard had done), but cut scenes don't necessarily mean anything.

At the end of the day, if we get a good story line, an all round good game that makes sense and we get to find out the outcome of our choice from the last game, I think most people might be pleased with that.  



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What are you on? 

The high of being part of the Quarian master race. Obviously.


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The high of being part of the Quarian master race. Obviously.

That must be it. Of course.  :lol:



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Personally apart from finding out the results of my Shepard's ending choice, I'm not too bothered about what happens. Yeah it would be a nice little bonus to find out what happened to Shepard's crew after she died for the second and final time, but I'd really like to know if my Shepard killing herself was worth it seeing as she had no other choice but to sacrifice herself. :(  

 

Surely no one would be able to communicate with the ark?  I'm assuming they'll not even mention it, the endings are so vastly different from each other that I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare decide to ignore them altogether (including what happens to companions).  

 

The ship leaves, and from that point onwards no contact is made with the Milky Way at all, including finding out Shepard and the galaxy's fate.  It would be a neat way to draw a line under the trilogy.  Sad in a way, but maybe it's needed for a fresh start with no ties...


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Surely no one would be able to communicate with the ark?  I'm assuming they'll not even mention it, the endings are so vastly different from each other that I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare decide to ignore them altogether (including what happens to companions).  

 

The ship leaves, and from that point onwards no contact is made with the Milky Way at all, including finding out Shepard and the galaxy's fate.  It would be a neat way to draw a line under the trilogy.  Sad in a way, but maybe it's needed for a fresh start with no ties...

I can see where it can make a fresh start but they can still do that even if they dropped a message somehow telling them what happened. How they do it I don't know, that's where more creativity would have to come in lol. It's all well and good having a fresh new game but I can see a lot of people getting upset because they won't get their answers. Not knowing if their past characters sacrificed themselves to save the whole Milky Way was even worth it, that can also be a risk. Maybe they can somehow drop something to let people know how it went. I've already seen people getting upset because they know they won't get their answers.

If they don't mention anything I guess we'll all just have to accept the cut scene at the end of ME 3 as the only answer we're going to get. 



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The high of being part of the Quarian master race. Obviously.


I thought it was red sand.
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