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[Tidus]

Think of this..I will use my character Tidus.. Ever think that Tidus and Cassie wasn't looking for a long term relation?  So, a "I love you"  means very little in those short term romances. Heck my ex-girlfriend said that a lot.

[Artona]

Y'know, when I read "Twilight", one of the things I found really awful was how Bella, when started relationship with Edward, lost interested and care about anything besides her sparkling vampire: she basically stopped caring about her family, hobbies, it was all about "love of her life".
And it was scary - probably not intentionally, but from cetrain point of view "Twilight" is really scary book about obsession and toxic relation - about a girl who abandons everything she is for her boyfriend.

And now it seems people are annoyed at Cassandra because - despite being in love - she doesn't just become Inquisitior cult follower, her live doesn't revolve about her beloved, she believes what she believed in, doesn't want to abandon her duties...

Bizarre, truly bizarre.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Y'know, when I read "Twilight", one of the things I found really awful was how Bella, when started relationship with Edward, lost interested and care about anything besides her sparkling vampire: she basically stopped caring about her family, hobbies, it was all about "love of her life".
And it was scary - probably not intentionally, but from cetrain point of view "Twilight" is really scary book about obsession and toxic relation - about a girl who abandons everything she is for her boyfriend.

And now it seems people are annoyed at Cassandra because - despite being in love - she doesn't just become Inquisitior cult follower, her live doesn't revolve about her beloved, she believes what she believed in, doesn't want to abandon her duties...

Bizarre, truly bizarre.

 

It is not bizarre because Leliana can fulfill her duties and still find a way to include her beloved in her life. Cassandra doesn't.

[Abyss108]

It is not bizarre because Leliana can fulfill her duties and still find a way to include her beloved in her life. Cassandra doesn't.

 

Because they have different beliefs. Cassandra doesn't change the rules of her religion to suit her own purpose.

[Artona]

 

It is not bizarre because Leliana can fulfill her duties and still find a way to include her beloved in her life. Cassandra doesn't.

 

Are you really okey with person who changes rules of the game just because of her affection to you? That's quite extreme, if you ask me; we are talking about organisation with thousand years of history.

[Tidus]

Leliana left her love for the Chantry.. If she was really in  love with(say) Tidus why would she leave him in the first place? After that mess at Vigil's Keep the couple was seen in Denerim. Yes,according to Leliana her warden is seeking information but,if she stayed by his/her side maybe he/she would have never left.

 

In my story ending (I hate fairly tale endings) after Leliana left him high and dry for the Chantry Tidus became a drunk. As the Devine would she really want a drunk elf by her side?

[Shechinah]

Leliana doesn't. Cassandra does. Both are women who are involved with the Chantry.

 

Which means Cassandra is a woman who does value her work more than her loved ones.

 

IMO, Leliana is the best Chantry female romance option.

 

Cassandra is just...well...When someone puts their ideology above the ones they claim to love...

 

In this case, work is helping put the world back together after it was thrown into chaos. From what I can see, Cassandra is putting aside her own desires and wishes to help the world recover while bringing order to a very influential organization which lost a lot of it's major leadership including it's leader. She putting the world and what she sees as her responsibilities above her own personal desires and wishes which also include her loved ones.     
 

[Dai Grepher]

Divine Cassandra loves the romanced Inquisitor, she just thinks that she is obligated to put the world ahead of her own desires. That's why you have to talk her out of that during the romance.

 

Cassandra changes to accommodate the Inquisitor. Cassandra asking him to be a bit mushy is not requesting that he change in any fundamental way.

 

Also, she does say she wants to marry some day. She just thinks that now isn't a good time for it. No one can fault her for not wanting to rush into marriage.

 

And besides, it's a good thing she didn't give you a ring, because it would have been destroyed by Solas' "helping hand" spell anyway.

[Arshei]

Y'know, when I read "Twilight", one of the things I found really awful was how Bella, when started relationship with Edward, lost interested and care about anything besides her sparkling vampire: she basically stopped caring about her family, hobbies, it was all about "love of her life".
And it was scary - probably not intentionally, but from cetrain point of view "Twilight" is really scary book about obsession and toxic relation - about a girl who abandons everything she is for her boyfriend.

And now it seems people are annoyed at Cassandra because - despite being in love - she doesn't just become Inquisitior cult follower, her live doesn't revolve about her beloved, she believes what she believed in, doesn't want to abandon her duties...

Bizarre, truly bizarre.

 

I don't want her to be my slave... not every time.. I just want her to make something that proves she loves your character, one moment she told you that you are the love of her life, in the other she drops you because she agree that her faith dictates that the Divine can't have a lover.

 

Because they have different beliefs. Cassandra doesn't change the rules of her religion to suit her own purpose.

 

Sure because Cassandra totally forgot about the dead of her brother and is not like she is resented to the mages now, is not like she is trying to restore a righteous faith on everyone because she was trained that way as a seeker.

 

Leliana left her love for the Chantry.. If she was really in  love with(say) Tidus why would she leave him in the first place? After that mess at Vigil's Keep the couple was seen in Denerim. Yes,according to Leliana her warden is seeking information but,if she stayed by his/her side maybe he/she would have never left.

 

In my story ending (I hate fairly tale endings) after Leliana left him high and dry for the Chantry Tidus became a drunk. As the Devine would she really want a drunk elf by her side?

The part of the Vigil is because Leliana was in debt with the Divine, Justinia saved her before.

But now that you are saying is horrible how if you didn't hardened Leliana, and corrupt the Temple of Sacred ashes she tries to kill you. Of course relationship just started, they where together a few months so the love is not that strong.

[o Ventus]

Leliana doesn't. Cassandra does. Both are women who are involved with the Chantry.

 

Which means Cassandra is a woman who does value her work more than her loved ones.

 

IMO, Leliana is the best Chantry female romance option.

 

Cassandra is just...well...When someone puts their ideology above the ones they claim to love...

 

Becoming Divine doesn't make Cassandra love the Inquisitor any less, nor does it mean she places the Chantry above the Inquisitor. You're guessing at intentions when you're not the person who is taking the action. You can't know what she is thinking, because you aren't her and you aren't a telepathic wizard who reads minds.

[Arshei]

Becoming Divine doesn't make Cassandra love the Inquisitor any less, nor does it mean she places the Chantry above the Inquisitor. You're guessing at intentions when you're not the person who is taking the action. You can't know what she is thinking, because you aren't her and you aren't a telepathic wizard who reads minds.

 

You think if someone dump you is because he/she loves you?

[Dai Grepher]

Dumping isn't the same as separating. She doesn't end the relationship because she wants to. She ends it because of circumstances she can't help. Like high school sweethearts whose career paths are sending them to different ends of the country or different parts of the world. They want to stay together, but can't.

[JadeDragon]

The Divine Cass romance was a messed opportunity in Tresspassers. It would have been nice if that conflict would have been explored further it was pretty much the same cutscene as regular romance. This was obviously a big issue with Cass romancers because making her divine was expected to add another layer in the relationship but we never saw that.

But its nothing like highschool sweethearts because the Inquisitor isn't far from Cass he is right by her side if she is divine and the relationship is pretty much a fable. They never marry or have kids just smile at each other across the room

[Arshei]

The Divine Cass romance was a messed opportunity in Tresspassers. It would have been nice if that conflict would have been explored further it was pretty much the same cutscene as regular romance. This was obviously a big issue with Cass romancers because making her divine was expected to add another layer in the relationship but we never saw that.

But its nothing like highschool sweethearts because the Inquisitor isn't far from Cass he is right by her side if she is divine and the relationship is pretty much a fable. They never marry or have kids just smile at each other across the room

 

 

Dumping isn't the same as separating. She doesn't end the relationship because she wants to. She ends it because of circumstances she can't help. Like high school sweethearts whose career paths are sending them to different ends of the country or different parts of the world. They want to stay together, but can't.

 

She is not going to study another career, Cassandra is going to get the work THAT IS SUPPOSED SHE DON'T WANT, but she prefers break up with you than refuse a job!

Is not like she need that job to survive, she prefers that the chantry always survive than you, so?, how do you feel?

She loves more a building than you.

[Illegitimus]

 

 

 

She is not going to study another career, Cassandra is going to get the work THAT IS SUPPOSED SHE DON'T WANT, but she prefers break up with you than refuse a job!

Is not like she need that job to survive, she prefers that the chantry always survive than you, so?, how do you feel?

She loves more a building than you.

 

Oh no!  I have a girlfriend who is performing an essential role in holding civilization together!  How horrible!

[Dai Grepher]

The Divine Cass romance was a messed opportunity in Tresspassers. It would have been nice if that conflict would have been explored further it was pretty much the same cutscene as regular romance. This was obviously a big issue with Cass romancers because making her divine was expected to add another layer in the relationship but we never saw that.

But its nothing like highschool sweethearts because the Inquisitor isn't far from Cass he is right by her side if she is divine and the relationship is pretty much a fable. They never marry or have kids just smile at each other across the room

 

I agree that the romance needed an extra layer, possibly where Cassandra does try to end the relationship, and then the Inquisitor reacts to it in a number of various ways. The loss of the arm would play into it as well. Done right, she might give up being Divine, or make an exception and reaffirm the relationship in spite of it.

 

The analogy still works. Replace distance with duty. They are separated by their obligations.
 

[Dai Grepher]

She is not going to study another career, Cassandra is going to get the work THAT IS SUPPOSED SHE DON'T WANT, but she prefers break up with you than refuse a job!

Is not like she need that job to survive, she prefers that the chantry always survive than you, so?, how do you feel?

She loves more a building than you.

 

She doesn't prefer it. She feels she is forced to. It's like being drafted into the military and having to leave your spouse.

 

She probably felt she had to do it to make a better world, for you and for everyone else.

[Arshei]

Oh no!  I have a girlfriend who is performing an essential role in holding civilization together!  How horrible!

 

She doesn't prefer it. She feels she is forced to. It's like being drafted into the military and having to leave your spouse.

 

She probably felt she had to do it to make a better world, for you and for everyone else.

 

 

She's that arrogant that she believes only her can change the world?, wow, I wonder why people love her that much.

[Dai Grepher]

She doesn't know if she can or not, but she thinks it is her responsibility to try.

[Tidus]

I may have misunderstood what Sera said about Cass but,it seems she warns the male inquisitor  about the way Cass is as far as duty first and everything else second.

[LOLandStuff]

She just wants you for sex and being Divine gives her the best excuse to dump your ass because you're not very good at it.

[Amne YA]

romance in da3 suck in general . they feel so fake  . 
it feel more of select a npc talk to him until unlocking  relationship lines . star relationship .
 

[Arshei]

She just wants you for sex and being Divine gives her the best excuse to dump your ass because you're not very good at it.

 

 

romance in da3 suck in general . they feel so fake  . 
it feel more of select a npc talk to him until unlocking  relationship lines . star relationship .
 

 

Yep, and in the ending most of the romances dump you or goes far away, Cassandra, Iron bull, Dorian, Blackwall, Solas.

Only Cullen, Josephine and Sera seems to truly love you, and I am in doubt with Cullen, he probably married my character because she is a noble.

[Illegitimus]

She's that arrogant that she believes only her can change the world?, wow, I wonder why people love her that much.

 

People standing around figuring other people can save the world are why the world doesn't get saved.  

[Heimdall]

Y'know, when I read "Twilight", one of the things I found really awful was how Bella, when started relationship with Edward, lost interested and care about anything besides her sparkling vampire: she basically stopped caring about her family, hobbies, it was all about "love of her life".
And it was scary - probably not intentionally, but from cetrain point of view "Twilight" is really scary book about obsession and toxic relation - about a girl who abandons everything she is for her boyfriend.

And now it seems people are annoyed at Cassandra because - despite being in love - she doesn't just become Inquisitior cult follower, her live doesn't revolve about her beloved, she believes what she believed in, doesn't want to abandon her duties...

Bizarre, truly bizarre.

Kinda reminds me of an argument I had on these boards with someone that felt all the companions in DAO were traitors because they moved on and pursued their own goals rather than slavishly clinging to the Warden's side.

 

Its a rather disturbing viewpoint that seems to suggest they view relationships (both romantic and platonic), as some sort of feudal bloodoath of total submission, rather than a bond between two individuals with their own desires.