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[Arshei]

Maybe I missed any dialogue, codex or information that really probes he is a real elven god.

 

Isn't there a posibility that he is another crazy man trying to be a god?, we seen this already.

Or another impostor? seen already

Maybe he was one of the bald guardians of the Temple of Mythal who wanted to be more than a bald guardian of the Temple of Mythal and he does a good perfomance acting like an old god.

 

About him being a powerful mage, well, we have Alexius, a simple magister that created magic to teleport in time, this magic compared to make stone some qunaris is pretty... powerful?

 

When he meet with Flemeth at the end of DA:I, well there is always the chance that he lied to Flemeth, or that Flemeth isn't the real mythal, we know all the abominations are crazy.

 

I can't find an explanation to all the elves following him as their leader, but is hardly to believe he just told them "I am Fen'Harel" and all of them believed him. Solas could use blood magic to control their minds.

[LOLandStuff]

Gotta give it to them, these wannabe gods impostors, they have some high aspirations.

[LightningPoodle]

BioWare didn't portray his reveal as ambiguous. He is.

Now, will in game people believe him to be? He'll have to do some Jesus level miracles before people start following blindly.

[AlanC9]

I dunno. If the elves' situation is bad enough to make the Qun look good, the bar for Solas is going to be set pretty low.

[Addictress]

He would be emasculated in my eyes

[lynroy]

Solas is a cheese wheel.

[fraggle]

As far as his identity goes, I'm pretty sure he is Fen'Harel.

Spoilers for The Masked Empire, in case you haven't read it

Spoiler

Felassan, one of the characters there is killed by Fen'Harel at the end and Felassan even refers to Fen'Harel's name iirc.

Solas then tells us in Trespasser that he killed an agent he had sent out to obtain the eluvians from Briala for him, but had failed to do so. That agent was Felassan. I think Cole also refers to that.

[Abyss108]

The Elves that followed him are older Elves that probably knew him. Modern Elves wouldn't follow anyone who claimed to be Fen'Harel since he is their devil.

 

But yes, he is Fen'Harel. There is nothing to suggest otherwise, and him not being Fen'Harel would only hurt the plot, not improve it.

[Big I]

Flemeth calls him the Dread Wolf.

The Inquisitor can, by piecing together evidence found through the eluvians, conclude that Solas is the Dread Wolf.

He admits to being the Dread Wolf.

 

There is no uncertainty, ambiguity or confusion. He is the Dread Wolf.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

I thought the Dread Wolf has a twin, Dirthamen?   Maybe he didn't get banish with the other elven gods.

[Shechinah]

I thought the Dread Wolf has a twin, Dirthamen?   Maybe he didn't get banish with the other elven gods.

 

Dirthamen is said to be the twin of Falon'Din.

[correctamundo]

No, I'm Fen'Harel!

[CardButton]

It seems pretty apparent that he is Fen'Harel.  Especially with the way Bioware went for that reveal I really doubt that they would backtrack and devolve him into another Corypheus style villain (as much as some people seem to want him to be nothing more than that).  Plus, the ability to turn people to stone wasn't the powerful part of what he was doing, it was the ability to turn a person to stone without waving a staff, moving a finger, uttering a word, or even looking at them.  He's doing all that with just a thought and there is absolutely no magic user we've seen up to this point (outside of Flemeth who was revealed as Mythal) that is even half as powerful as Solas was portrayed being in "Trespasser". Alexius created time magic sure, but that was after an absurd amount of research, the creation of a powerful magic artifact, and even after all that he needed a Breach in the Veil to get it to work (and it only worked back as far as the creation of the Breach itself).

 

As for the modern Elven population following him, I really doubt many would follow him willingly (in fact I'd say if they believe who he is more of them would be tempted to try killing him than serving him).  Those that do are either A) not very connected to their heritage, or  under the impression he plans to "make things right" by releasing their sealed gods (which is true, but that means something very different for Solas).  Plus, considering Solas' opinions on large organizations and the traditional methods of how he operates I doubt he wants or needs all those elves following him around.  Even if they may want to follow him, that doesn't mean he wants them (especially since I'm still under the impression that while he plans on saving his people, it's not the Modern Elves he was referring to). 

[Navasha]

Well, I think the whole idea is that the "gods" or "creators" are more given that status by their followers.    They seem to have been incredibly powerful and or cunning beings, but I get the impression that ancient elven society was kind of like ancient egypt.   There the masses believed their rulers to be gods even when they were just people.   

 

So I have no doubt that Solas is Fen'Harel.   However, that doesn't actually give him the powers we typically associate with gods.  

[ArcaneEsper]

Even if he was an impostor it would:
1) achieve absolutely nothing
2) change absolutely nothing
And 3) be a cheap plot twist just for the sake of being a plot twist.

I mean I'm sorry if this sounds condescending or anything but Bioware has literally thrown it in our faces in no uncertain terms that Solas is the Fen'Harel from the Elven legends.

[CronoDragoon]

Mythal called him Fen'harel (Dread Wolf) and she would know, so no.

[Sah291]

It was left ambiguous right up until the very end of Tresspasser. The idea of him being an agent of Fen'Harel is suggested, while you pick up clues along the way, until you finally confront him. He confirms he is Fen'Harel and denies being an agent.

I think some things are still left ambiguous though. For instance, he denies being a "fragment" like Mythal, and confirms he was Solas first, has always been as he is, and that Fen'Harel was more of a title, kind of like "Inquisitor".

So it is confirmed he is Fen'Harel, but it's still ambiguous who Fen'Harel really was, or what his relationship to Mythal was.

[Medhia_Nox]

While everything Solas says can be a lie (and it's odd that gamers just believe him) I think it's pretty clear he is what "was" the Dread Wolf.

 

Now... it's also true that Fen'Harel is - at least currently, is a mentally deranged uber-mage on a genocidal freight train to annihilation. 

 

SO... "what" he is really doesn't matter to me until what he is... is "neutralized".

[Arshei]

Well, I think the whole idea is that the "gods" or "creators" are more given that status by their followers.    They seem to have been incredibly powerful and or cunning beings, but I get the impression that ancient elven society was kind of like ancient egypt.   There the masses believed their rulers to be gods even when they were just people.   

 

So I have no doubt that Solas is Fen'Harel.   However, that doesn't actually give him the powers we typically associate with gods.  

 

That is the problem, call him god seems exaggerated, if he is so powerful, why he is bald?

[CardButton]

That is the problem, call him god seems exaggerated, if he is so powerful, why he is bald?

You obviously haven't seen One-Punch Man lol! 

[almasy87]

Well. TBH Solas is Solas.
Fen'Harel means Dread Wolf which is like an "adjective", the trickster wolf.
When you speak to him he tells you "I was Solas first. "Fen'Harel" came later". I think he's not referring to the fact that Fen'Harel came and "possessed" him or smth like that. He's saying that the title "Fen'Harel" came later, probably given by the people he used to "trick" or after he tricked the Evanuris and created the Veil.
He himself says "Fen'Harel came later, an insult I took as a badge of pride". So basically Fen'Harel is just a title that was given to him, that inspired hope in his friends, and fear in his enemies.

"Not unlike Inquisitor, I suppose". That title can inspire hope and fear as well.

It's like saying..
XXX Lavellan/Trevelyan/Adaar/Cadash, the Inquisitor
Solas, the Dread Wolf

Solas is just Solas 

[Andraste_Reborn]

This is about as likely as Iron Bull turning out to be three dwarves in a Qunari suit. Technically it could be the case, but it seems wildly unlikely as all the evidence suggests otherwise.

[Gervaise]

Solas is definitely Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf.   If you read the description the Evanuris give about him it fits perfectly.  "The Dread Wolf comes in humble guises.  A wanderer who knows much of the People and their spirits.   He will offer advice that seems fair but turns slowly to poison."

 

As for the elves joining him, they will be the ancient ones but also some modern ones since the epilogue clearly says that elven servants and elves from the Inquisition leave suddenly and mysteriously and are said to be joining him.    Most of the modern ones are likely to be city elves because they don't have the same cultural prejudice as the Dalish against the Dread Wolf  and also would jump at the chance to join a powerful ancient elf, even if he doesn't claim to be a god.    They are ready enough to join the Qun because it seems a step up on the current lives; so Solas would be even better.    Whether he tells them he intends destroying the world is open to question but even if he does, may be they just don't care, or he has promised to hide them in the Crossroads until it is over.

 

As for the Dalish, they might support him if they think doing so will get their gods back but Solas would be foolish to trust them.    One of the elves in the epilogue screen definitely has Vallaslin and hair, so they can't be ancient elves because they are all bald.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Dirthamen is said to be the twin of Falon'Din.

 

Ah, my bad. all the Fens "*" are confusing.

[Guitar-Hero]

He is a towel