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[Larry-3]

Where is your science now?

For-real though, BioWare, how much pseudoscience can we expect in the next Mass Effect? I know it is a Space Opera, so it is inevitable. I am curious to know how much can we expect? Will bits and pieces be used to fill in a few cracks, or will it go full Star Trek on us and make statements like "Do not forget to reverse the polarities. This will enable us calibrate the neutron flow and keep our dilithium crystals stable during fluctuations." I just made that up, by the way.

I am only asking because I cannot play while listening to pseudoscience technobabble; my enjoyment would be ruined. I can tolerate bits and pieces -- especially if it is really really thought-out -- because I know this is a Space Opera which means there is no avoiding it. But please do not go overboard with it.

[Han Shot First]

Most of it will probably be relegated to codex entries. 

 

The Shepard trilogy never really had a lot of technobabble in dialogue.

[Larry-3]

Most of it will probably be relegated to codex entries. 
 
The Shepard trilogy never really had a lot of technobabble in dialogue.

I suppose you are right, Han.... But now I am worried about Codex entries. I actually read those.

[The Real Pearl #2]

Science is cool

Enjoy this full futurama theme:

[Lady Artifice]

I think for it to actually qualify as pseudoscience there has to be a pretense of legitimacy, or of adherence to scientific method. It may not be entirely fair to label the fantastical elements of what is effectively a fantasy story as pseudoscience, because that implies they're trying to actually convince people to believe in it. 

[7twozero]

Yeah if bioware doesn't provide scientific proof that interstellar travel is possible then that's just gonna kill me:a for me

[xkg]

"Do not forget to reverse the polarities. This will enable us calibrate the neutron flow and keep our dilithium crystals stable during fluctuations."

 

FUUUUCC... no. I love Star Trek but have 0 tolerance for any kind of techno babble. Can't stand it.

And that's why, for example, Samantha Carter(SG-1's Mary Sue) can gtfo

 

Battlestar Galactica (reimagined) had minimal amount of that gibberish and it worked out very well. 

 

I am only asking because I cannot play while listening to pseudoscience technobabble; my enjoyment would be ruined.

DITTO

[Larry-3]

Science is cool
Enjoy this full futurama theme:

Now you made me want to watch Futurama, SpectrePierogi.

[Il Divo]

If the past is any indication of the future, I suspect quite  a bit. 

[Larry-3]

I enjoy science. In fact, it is among my top five favorite subjects. Regardless, instead of giving me a made up fact, I would rather no explanation be given on something futuristic. Keep the mystery alive. Unless a logical explanation can be given. In which case, I encourage you.

[The Real Pearl #2]

Now you made me want to watch Futurama, SpectrePierogi.

My favorite part is this

[Jorji Costava]

FUUUUCC... no. I love Star Trek but have 0 tolerance for any kind of techno babble. Can't stand it.

And that's why, for example, Samantha Carter(SG-1's Mary Sue) can gtfo

 

Battlestar Galactica (reimagined) had minimal amount of that gibberish and it worked out very well. 

 

I know I've posted this here before, but this interview with Ronald D Moore (creator of the BSG remake and former Star Trek writer) on technobabble might be of interest.

 

Regarding the topic, my guess is that there will be a lot of pseudoscience, and I don't care very much as long as the series maintains a generally consistent level of credibility. Some elements (i.e. time travel, beings from another dimension, etc.) would stretch my disbelief, but in general my tolerance for scientific nonsense in fiction is pretty high, especially when the series has set a precedent of having a fair amount of it already.

[Larry-3]

My favorite part is this

Were it a music track in the Normandy cabin, I would let it play whenever I walked in, SpectrePierogi.

[Quarian Master Race]

Quite a lot if the writers continue to shill their Ray Kurzweil inspired garbage transhumanist religion

[Geth Supremacy]

Quite a lot if the writers continue to shill their Ray Kurzweil inspired garbage transhumanist religion

 

Transcendent Man is awesome though.

 

I do find it kind of funny we are talking about fake and real science over stuff we haven't even discovered or figured out yet.

 

To me its the same as telling someone they are insane because they want to talk to someone that isn't even there with them.  The he created the telephone or the even morse code.  When someone says they want to get in a tube and fly around the world people think they are insane, but today we have planes.  Humans are on their way to figure out space travel.

 

I do get the point the OP is trying to make.  I guess I just don't have the same feelings towards it.  Doesn't matter though.  All that matters is MP.

[aoibhealfae]

Don't really mind much scientific inaccuracies, its a universe where there's mass effect fields, literal combat space magic and magical medigel. Plus, have you been in hospital where every table have their own microscopes and digital scales....?

 

Besides, there's this entire scene....

That's obviously a male skeleton, which kinda problematic if you play as FemShep. And that's either some freakish tiny needles injecting very small capillaries or those are just freakish huge blood cells.

 

If you're a scientist who love scifi, you just accept these things really. Not like you haven't seen weirder things.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Plenty.

[StringerBell]

Hella

[Battlebloodmage]

[Iakus]

A certian amount of pseudoscience is to be expected, and is in fact necessary for the setting to function.

 

What we can hope (likely in vain) for is that the made-up stuff at least stays consistent with itself.  THat when they say X is possible but Y is not, that this is in fact true unless a really good reason and consistent reason is given to be otherwise (and not just New Rules as the Plot Demands)

[WarGriffin]

Quick ensign employ multi-modal reflection sorting

[Geth Supremacy]

Indoctrination theory was right the whole time.

[Drone223]

A certian amount of pseudoscience is to be expected, and is in fact necessary for the setting to function.

 

What we can hope (likely in vain) for is that the made-up stuff at least stays consistent with itself.  THat when they say X is possible but Y is not, that this is in fact true unless a really good reason and consistent reason is given to be otherwise (and not just New Rules as the Plot Demands)

Pretty much this.

[Gago]

I would like things to be explained logically and scientifically but I don't mind some pseudoscience. As long as BW doesn't put stuff like time travel or interdimensional travel I will most likely be okay. 

[In Exile]

A certian amount of pseudoscience is to be expected, and is in fact necessary for the setting to function.

 

What we can hope (likely in vain) for is that the made-up stuff at least stays consistent with itself.  THat when they say X is possible but Y is not, that this is in fact true unless a really good reason and consistent reason is given to be otherwise (and not just New Rules as the Plot Demands)

 

The made up stuff can't stay consistent with itself. If Bioware was able to design self-consistent theories of physics that could explain things like space travel, they'd be busy winning awards in theoretical physics. Hell, we can't do that IRL with our actual theories of physics. 

 

The whole Grand Unified Theory quest is about figuring out how to turn our logically inconsistent theories of physics into something resembling a logically coherent whole. 

 

You'll note the trope you link to is about very simple rules (like card games).